Are there really "gay" people in Pari...

Are there really "gay" people in Paris, Texas?

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#1 Dec 21, 2010
I was just recently on a thread about gay people in Paris Tx, and their fight for equality. It came to my attention that the thread was closed, was it too controversial? I happened to find it very interesting, and loved the controversy. I thought that this was an open forum, why would the discussion be closed? I would love to continue to get deeper into this subject, verses closing it, and ending the discussion. Is this town really that close minded, I know that if your too open minded your brain will fall out, but how can everyone be treated equal if we're not willing to discuss it. Without casting judgement on one another, this town isn't going anywhere, but neither are the gay people that live here. This is certainly something that needs to be discussed and some type of truth agreed upon.

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#2 Dec 22, 2010
I cant believe that their have not been any comments yet about this topic!
Why

Paris, TX

#3 Dec 22, 2010
I was wondering why the thread was gone too.

It was getting petty. It got hijacked before it got pulled.
Cry Me A River

Paris, TX

#4 Dec 22, 2010
TB-PROUD-2-B-ME wrote:
I was just recently on a thread about gay people in Paris Tx, and their fight for equality. It came to my attention that the thread was closed, was it too controversial? I happened to find it very interesting, and loved the controversy. I thought that this was an open forum, why would the discussion be closed? I would love to continue to get deeper into this subject, verses closing it, and ending the discussion. Is this town really that close minded, I know that if your too open minded your brain will fall out, but how can everyone be treated equal if we're not willing to discuss it. Without casting judgement on one another, this town isn't going anywhere, but neither are the gay people that live here. This is certainly something that needs to be discussed and some type of truth agreed upon.
What is this "equality" you are speaking about? Why do they think they have to have equal status as everyone else. They are NOT equal in the regard they are trying to make. Otherwise, they are the same. They can shop at the same stores, go to the same movies, use the same public bathrooms, vote like anyone else, run for office, SERVE IN THE MILITARY, sit at the front of the bus, etc, etc, etc.

So, what is it that is NOT equal? This is just a ridiculous issue that is poised to shove their twisted perceptions upon the rest of the normal people. I have gay friends. They know where I stand. I know where they stand. That boundary is not crossed. I never hear them bitching about not being the same as me other than they like same sex SEX!

So, tell us. What is it in which you are so unequal?

“Illegitimi non carborundum”

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#5 Dec 22, 2010
I'm still trying to not say "duh" to the thread title.
Guess

Paris, TX

#6 Dec 22, 2010
It is part of the PC "guess what is wrong with me today" society. It probably came from if you can't say something nice don't say it at all era.

You don't even have to be flamboyant with your gayness. You can be looked up on myspace or facebook, which is the equivalant of perspective employers wire tapping you without the consideration of someone else being on the line talking on your phone.

But if they find out about what color you are or your personal choices by looking into you first, then they don't have to worry about EEOC complaints if they end up not liking you or the job working out.

You never get feedback on why you didn't get called, or why you didn't make the interview or someone else got it, because actually, the decision was based on some bias. It doesn't have to be that you are gay, or a color. It is a risk management thing.
Guess

Paris, TX

#7 Dec 22, 2010
If you put health information on your myspace or face book, such as a back ache or a pregnancy it is a risk alert.
then again

Paris, TX

#8 Dec 22, 2010
when you live in a small town, joe blow can tell an employer you are a booger eater and nine out of ten will probably believe it without even meeting you, without the consideration of motive behind the words.
A Question

Dallas, TX

#10 Dec 22, 2010
Guess wrote:
It is part of the PC "guess what is wrong with me today" society. It probably came from if you can't say something nice don't say it at all era.
You don't even have to be flamboyant with your gayness. You can be looked up on myspace or facebook, which is the equivalant of perspective employers wire tapping you without the consideration of someone else being on the line talking on your phone.
But if they find out about what color you are or your personal choices by looking into you first, then they don't have to worry about EEOC complaints if they end up not liking you or the job working out.
You never get feedback on why you didn't get called, or why you didn't make the interview or someone else got it, because actually, the decision was based on some bias. It doesn't have to be that you are gay, or a color. It is a risk management thing.
Interesting comments. I never thought about prospective employers checking people out on facebook. Certainly makes sense.
then again

Paris, TX

#11 Dec 22, 2010
A Question wrote:
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Interesting comments. I never thought about prospective employers checking people out on facebook. Certainly makes sense.
Then you can check out who their friends are, who their family is and judge them on that too.

So if you have a gay friend, or a dope dealing cousin, you can measure the risks associated with the employee.
Criminal Minds

Paris, TX

#12 Dec 22, 2010
Shawshank Redemption quote but not exactly.

I had to go to prison to learn how to become a criminal.

Lesson learned: there are all kinds of loops around the system. When you play by the rules, you can bet there is someone trying or has learned to work around them that will undermine the efforts.

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#13 Dec 22, 2010
Cry Me A River wrote:
<quoted text>What is this "equality" you are speaking about? Why do they think they have to have equal status as everyone else. They are NOT equal in the regard they are trying to make. Otherwise, they are the same. They can shop at the same stores, go to the same movies, use the same public bathrooms, vote like anyone else, run for office, SERVE IN THE MILITARY, sit at the front of the bus, etc, etc, etc.
So, what is it that is NOT equal? This is just a ridiculous issue that is poised to shove their twisted perceptions upon the rest of the normal people. I have gay friends. They know where I stand. I know where they stand. That boundary is not crossed. I never hear them bitching about not being the same as me other than they like same sex SEX!
So, tell us. What is it in which you are so unequal?
You are absolutely correct in some of the things that you said. We can go to the movies, vote, etc. as you stated. Yet if we want to go as partner and partner, we have to pretend to be friends. Is this equal? Why is it that its okay for you and your husband or wife to walk down the street holding hands, yet its not for me and mine? We have been serving our country for years, but in secret. Just recently we're able to do it with pride, gay pride at that! You shouldnt really speak about that of which you know nothing about....just saying.......
Messenger

Paris, TX

#14 Dec 22, 2010
TB-PROUD-2-B-ME wrote:
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You are absolutely correct in some of the things that you said. We can go to the movies, vote, etc. as you stated. Yet if we want to go as partner and partner, we have to pretend to be friends. Is this equal? Why is it that its okay for you and your husband or wife to walk down the street holding hands, yet its not for me and mine? We have been serving our country for years, but in secret. Just recently we're able to do it with pride, gay pride at that! You shouldnt really speak about that of which you know nothing about....just saying.......
Again, if someone disagrees with you, then that person should not "speak about that of which you know nothing about". How is it you value your intellect so much and dismiss everyone else's opinion simply because they disagree with you. There are brilliant men and women who disagree with you! You are smarter than everyone?

Pride, you are proud of being a sexual deviant? You do not make the rules or determine the norm. The Creator does. Grow up.

You are a narrow minded bigot who slanders anyone who disagrees with you. People are free to express their moral values, even if they disagree with yours. That does not make them worse than you or "ignorant" as you like to assert. Here is a possibility, you may be wrong in your views concerning the moral legitimacy of a gay lifestyle. How did you become an "expert" on what is moral? Oh yeah, I forgot, you are a deviant so therefore think your actions are okay. Not very subjective I would add.
Messenger

Paris, TX

#15 Dec 22, 2010
No researcher has ever concretely proven the existence of a gay gene or combination of genes inexorably leading to homosexual behavior. Other inborn predispositions, such as personality, body type and voice mannerisms may also lead an individual to adopt a stereotypically “gay” self-perception from an early stage in life, but this does not mean there’s a “gay gene,” nor does it mean that homosexuality can’t be overcome. In fact, there is no complex human behavior, which is purely genetic.

“Illegitimi non carborundum”

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#16 Dec 22, 2010
Messenger wrote:
No researcher has ever concretely proven the existence of a gay gene or combination of genes inexorably leading to homosexual behavior. Other inborn predispositions, such as personality, body type and voice mannerisms may also lead an individual to adopt a stereotypically “gay” self-perception from an early stage in life, but this does not mean there’s a “gay gene,” nor does it mean that homosexuality can’t be overcome. In fact, there is no complex human behavior, which is purely genetic.
Think about it for a moment. If animals can be bread to bring out certain traits is is not possible that certain traits can be inherited genetically? There's so much the field of science doesn't know about because some areas like behavioral genetics is a relatively new field. At one time people with mental illnesses were considered to be possessed by the devil and thrown away in mental institutions. Now we know that some mental issues can be genetically inherited.

The Human Genome Project has done some pretty interesting studies http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_G...

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#17 Dec 22, 2010
Messenger wrote:
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Again, if someone disagrees with you, then that person should not "speak about that of which you know nothing about". How is it you value your intellect so much and dismiss everyone else's opinion simply because they disagree with you. There are brilliant men and women who disagree with you! You are smarter than everyone?
Pride, you are proud of being a sexual deviant? You do not make the rules or determine the norm. The Creator does. Grow up.
You are a narrow minded bigot who slanders anyone who disagrees with you. People are free to express their moral values, even if they disagree with yours. That does not make them worse than you or "ignorant" as you like to assert. Here is a possibility, you may be wrong in your views concerning the moral legitimacy of a gay lifestyle. How did you become an "expert" on what is moral? Oh yeah, I forgot, you are a deviant so therefore think your actions are okay. Not very subjective I would add.
I would have to agree with you, everyone does have their opinion. I simply stated, why is it okay for straight people to publicly show affection yet not gay people? I am proud of being a sexualn deviant as you so put it, because I am proud of who I am. You should really pay attention to your posts to make sure that they make sense. I never said that people shouldnt have an opinion, they should just keep it to themselves. And point, your actions are okay, why arent mine?
Huh

Paris, TX

#18 Dec 22, 2010
DazzleDat wrote:
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Think about it for a moment. If animals can be bread to bring out certain traits is is not possible that certain traits can be inherited genetically? There's so much the field of science doesn't know about because some areas like behavioral genetics is a relatively new field. At one time people with mental illnesses were considered to be possessed by the devil and thrown away in mental institutions. Now we know that some mental issues can be genetically inherited.
The Human Genome Project has done some pretty interesting studies http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_G...
What kind of bread are you making out of animals?
Angie

United States

#19 Dec 22, 2010
TB-PROUD-2-B-ME wrote:
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I would have to agree with you, everyone does have their opinion. I simply stated, why is it okay for straight people to publicly show affection yet not gay people? I am proud of being a sexualn deviant as you so put it, because I am proud of who I am. You should really pay attention to your posts to make sure that they make sense. I never said that people shouldnt have an opinion, they should just keep it to themselves. And point, your actions are okay, why arent mine?
I thought the post made perfect sense. You asked people to comment and when they did, you told them to keep their opinion to themselves. You are the one that doesn't make sense. Make up your mind.

“Illegitimi non carborundum”

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#20 Dec 22, 2010
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>What kind of bread are you making out of animals?
Animal crackers. Obviously it was a typo. Thanks for picking that up.

“the baby who would be king!!!!”

Since: Jan 07

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#21 Dec 22, 2010
in born or acquired trait is irrelevant - what is relevant is same gender attraction is a naturally occurring variation with no obligation to change to suit your ancient tribal based superstitious fears
Messenger wrote:
No researcher has ever concretely proven the existence of a gay gene or combination of genes inexorably leading to homosexual behavior. Other inborn predispositions, such as personality, body type and voice mannerisms may also lead an individual to adopt a stereotypically “gay” self-perception from an early stage in life, but this does not mean there’s a “gay gene,” nor does it mean that homosexuality can’t be overcome. In fact, there is no complex human behavior, which is purely genetic.

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