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Should we make people pay back food stamps and welfare benefits?

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Why Not

United States

#1 Oct 4, 2011
Just hit myself in the head with an idea.

On another thread I was trying to explain why a loan was different from a gift as it applies to food stamps and welfare.

Then it hit me. Why don't we make people pay back benefits such as food stamps and welfare. Computers are wonderful (at times) because they can remember anything that is entered into them.

Let's keep track of all benefits people receive in the way of food stamps and welfare, including SSI. If they ever receive a tax refund, lottery winnings, etc. let's take the benefit money back first. Say these people eventually make it big, earn twice the poverty level, etc. make them pay it back. Kinda like child support.

What do you think?
Static

Carrollton, TX

#2 Oct 4, 2011
Sounds like a great idea but then Crow would cry racism.

“Illegitimi non carborundum”

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#3 Oct 4, 2011
Some food stamp recipients are old, elderly and sick living on a fixed income. They may have worked hard all their life, and are really not happy they are on assistance but it's get the assistance or be homeless and hungry. How are they going to pay it back? Especially if they die and have no estate?
Disgusted

Paris, TX

#4 Oct 4, 2011
Did you know that some people get back money on their income tax that they NEVER PAID IN?!?! This means that you and I pay in money to GIVE to people for absolutely nothing. Let's stop giving people money they never earned or paid in.
hayseed

Blossom, TX

#5 Oct 4, 2011
DazzleDat wrote:
Some food stamp recipients are old, elderly and sick living on a fixed income. They may have worked hard all their life, and are really not happy they are on assistance but it's get the assistance or be homeless and hungry. How are they going to pay it back? Especially if they die and have no estate?
Lesters will pay cash for metal. They would probably want the body removed first.
Tax payer

Paris, TX

#6 Oct 4, 2011
I think assistance should be only for someone 65 or older.
fully agree

Terrell, TX

#7 Oct 4, 2011
Tax payer wrote:
I think assistance should be only for someone 65 or older.
So what do we do for all the children that are being had in poverty level families? It's not the childrens fault their parents don't make enough for groceries. But taking foodstamps away from the parents means you're gonna have quite a few hungry babies. Should we send them all to your house for supper?
Tax payer

Paris, TX

#8 Oct 4, 2011
How about making the parents do community service to get food, not food stamps? And only healthy food at that.
John

Marble Falls, TX

#9 Oct 4, 2011
Why Not wrote:
Just hit myself in the head with an idea.
On another thread I was trying to explain why a loan was different from a gift as it applies to food stamps and welfare.
Then it hit me. Why don't we make people pay back benefits such as food stamps and welfare. Computers are wonderful (at times) because they can remember anything that is entered into them.
Let's keep track of all benefits people receive in the way of food stamps and welfare, including SSI. If they ever receive a tax refund, lottery winnings, etc. let's take the benefit money back first. Say these people eventually make it big, earn twice the poverty level, etc. make them pay it back. Kinda like child support.
What do you think?
Trust me Gomer, that wasn't a idea that hit you in the head, In reality it was a whale dork, And we are sure you enjoyed it. So next time you start to think, DONT!
guess what

United States

#10 Oct 4, 2011
fully agree wrote:
<quoted text>So what do we do for all the children that are being had in poverty level families? It's not the childrens fault their parents don't make enough for groceries. But taking foodstamps away from the parents means you're gonna have quite a few hungry babies. Should we send them all to your house for supper?
Well if the parents can have them they need to get there arse out and feed them!! If we give people the luxury of sitting on there ass they will
Chelsea Park

United States

#11 Oct 4, 2011
Tax payer wrote:
How about making the parents do community service to get food, not food stamps? And only healthy food at that.
That's an intriguing idea.
Why Not

Alameda, CA

#12 Oct 5, 2011
DazzleDat wrote:
Some food stamp recipients are old, elderly and sick living on a fixed income. They may have worked hard all their life, and are really not happy they are on assistance but it's get the assistance or be homeless and hungry. How are they going to pay it back? Especially if they die and have no estate?
I’m not saying everyone has to pay it back. Only those that can afford to do so in the future. Kinda like student loans; they NEVER leave you. If you are a child and receive benefits (the computer knows who you are) you shouldn’t be penalized and have to pay it back just because your parents got benefits for you. You’ve heard the expression,“pay it forward”, this is the idea. BTW Medicaid can and will go after your estate when you die if you have no surviving spouse or hardship family members.

I guess I am thinking more in terms of the new recipients who are receiving benefits because of this recession. I would think a lot of new recipients would welcome the idea of paying it back. They aren’t used to having to ask for assistance. Even those that are long time hard core “system users” would have to pay it back if (by chance) they got a windfall, great job (I said by chance), etc. in the future.

As my husband says occasionally:“It’s an idea, not a good one, but an idea.” I thought (again) about this right after the cute little whale dork left.
fully agree

Terrell, TX

#13 Oct 5, 2011
guess what wrote:
<quoted text>Well if the parents can have them they need to get there arse out and feed them!! If we give people the luxury of sitting on there ass they will
And if you take the luxury away they still will be planted on their asses.. It's not going to do anything but take food away from the children.
heehee

Paris, TX

#14 Oct 5, 2011
not everyone on assistance is sitting on their butt and it's rude to say so, many are working full time jobs at that but their incomes are low and they need help meeting average living expenses. Yes there are MANY abusing the system but don't forget many are not. If you were making $40,000 a year and got laid off. Had a hard time making ends meet so took the first job you could at barely over mim. wage & had to apply for assistance how would you like it if people just assumed you sat on your butt all day. There are alot of different reasons and circumstances that put people in the position to apply for assistance so remember that when passing judgement.
Why Not

United States

#15 Oct 5, 2011
heehee wrote:
not everyone on assistance is sitting on their butt and it's rude to say so, many are working full time jobs at that but their incomes are low and they need help meeting average living expenses. Yes there are MANY abusing the system but don't forget many are not. If you were making $40,000 a year and got laid off. Had a hard time making ends meet so took the first job you could at barely over mim. wage & had to apply for assistance how would you like it if people just assumed you sat on your butt all day. There are alot of different reasons and circumstances that put people in the position to apply for assistance so remember that when passing judgement.
You are right. I believe there are a lot of people who truly need assistance and are still working. Times are tough now. I also believe a lot of the people applying for assistance now would really be happy to pay the money back when they get back on their feet and have the resources to pay it back. I believe most of the new applicants have never been on assistance before and are working as hard as they can to get off of assistance. My opinion.
Me2fool

United States

#16 Oct 5, 2011
People bitch about gov handouts but they fail to mention the 3 or 4 grand they get every year on the earned income tax credit.. That's more of a handout than welfare.. The max cash assistance you can receive is 240 a month..
Why Not

United States

#17 Oct 5, 2011
Disgusted wrote:
Did you know that some people get back money on their income tax that they NEVER PAID IN?!?! This means that you and I pay in money to GIVE to people for absolutely nothing. Let's stop giving people money they never earned or paid in.
Its called Earned Income Tax Credit. You get it if you have children and are working. This is in addition to being able to deduct child care, etc.

I think it is welfare for the low / middle class who have children. They don't call it that, but for those of us who do not qualify (higher income or no children) that IS a welfare check and it comes out of OUR payment into taxes.

So people, if you get a refund check from "income taxes" that is more than you paid in, guess what: YOU ARE ON WELFARE. So before you start throwing bricks at the "system users" look in the mirror.

“Illegitimi non carborundum”

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#18 Oct 5, 2011
Me2fool wrote:
People bitch about gov handouts but they fail to mention the 3 or 4 grand they get every year on the earned income tax credit.. That's more of a handout than welfare.. The max cash assistance you can receive is 240 a month..
How do you know that the people who bitch qualify for EITC? The maximum amounts are $43,352 ($48,362 married filing jointly) with three or more qualifying children; $13,460 ($18,470 married filing jointly) with no qualifying children.
Observer

Paris, TX

#20 Oct 5, 2011
I see people who receive assistance who do not use their money wisely. They spend the money on things they want, not need.

“Illegitimi non carborundum”

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#21 Oct 5, 2011
Observer wrote:
I see people who receive assistance who do not use their money wisely. They spend the money on things they want, not need.
You know I've seen that too, not only with people on assistance. People getting their wants and needs confused all the time. Just because you want something doesn't mean you need it.

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