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Cibil War

Paris, TX

#1 Sep 30, 2007
These same men came to Paris Texas and spread the same message on the Lamar County Courthouse grounds stating they had been asked to come by their family and friends who live in Paris Texas.

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Anonymous

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#2 Sep 30, 2007
Cibil War wrote:
These same men came to Paris Texas and spread the same message on the Lamar County Courthouse grounds stating they had been asked to come by their family and friends who live in Paris Texas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =HW5cyyTGk8QXX&mode=relate d&search=
Yeah, right!!!! Don't try to focus attention on something else.....
suze

Paris, TX

#3 Sep 30, 2007
Cibil War wrote:
These same men came to Paris Texas and spread the same message on the Lamar County Courthouse grounds stating they had been asked to come by their family and friends who live in Paris Texas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =HW5cyyTGk8QXX&mode=relate d&search=
This one's funnier. But if you are offended by foul language, you shouldn't watch. Fair warning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Cibil War

Paris, TX

#4 Sep 30, 2007
suze wrote:
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This one's funnier. But if you are offended by foul language, you shouldn't watch. Fair warning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =vqj72b-BwpcXX
Found one of your wedding. It shore wuz purty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Cibil War

Paris, TX

#5 Nov 15, 2007
In the 90s, the KKK grand jackazz proudly stated on the Lamar County courthouse grounds that the KKK had members who live in Paris Texas. There are many still living here.
splain this

Paris, TX

#6 Nov 17, 2007
Cibil War wrote:
In the 90s, the KKK grand jackazz proudly stated on the Lamar County courthouse grounds that the KKK had members who live in Paris Texas. There are many still living here.
whuts the diff? you got black panthers duh!
Comparison

Paris, TX

#7 Nov 17, 2007
splain this wrote:
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whuts the diff? you got black panthers duh!
I haven't seen any of these other organizations post any names or make threats. That's a Huge difference.
Anonymous from Paris

Paris, TX

#8 Nov 17, 2007
Comparison wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't seen any of these other organizations post any names or make threats. That's a Huge difference.
The Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam are hate groups just the same as the KKK.
Comparison

Paris, TX

#9 Nov 17, 2007
Comparison wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't seen any of these other organizations post any names or make threats. That's a Huge difference.
As I said. Nor have I heard of them burning crosses or killing people.
Anonymous from Paris

Paris, TX

#10 Nov 17, 2007
Comparison wrote:
<quoted text>As I said. Nor have I heard of them burning crosses or killing people.
Black Panthers:

Prominent member H. Rap Brown is serving life imprisonment for the murder of Ricky Leon Kinchen, a Fulton County, Georgia sheriff's deputy, and the wounding of another officer in a gunbattle. Both officers were black.[25]

Violence
From the beginning the Black Panther Party's focus on militancy came with a reputation for violence. They often took advantage of a little known California law which made it permissible to carry a loaded rifle or shotgun as long as it was publicly displayed and pointed at no one [32]. These weapons and public threats against police officers, for example chants like "The Revolution has co-ome, it's time to pick up the gu-un. Off the pigs!",[33] helped cement their reputation as a violent organization. But the large part of their reputation came from particular events in which the Panthers were involved.

In October of 1967, Oakland police officer John Frey was shot to death in an altercation with Newton during a traffic stop. In the stop, Newton and backup officer Herbert Heanes also suffered gunshot wounds. Although the result was later reversed, for three years after that Newton was imprisoned for involuntary manslaughter. This incident gained the party even wider recognition by the radical American left, and a "Free Huey" campaign ensued[34].

On May 2, 1967, the California State Assembly Committee on Criminal Procedure was scheduled to convene to discuss what was known as the "Mulford Act", which would ban public displays of loaded firearms. Cleaver and Newton put together a plan to send a group of about 30 Panthers led by Seale from Oakland to Sacramento to protest the bill. The group entered the assembly with their weapons, an event which led to widespread publicity, but also to the arrest of Seale and five others. The group plead guilty to misdemeanor charges of disrupting a legislative session[35].

On April 6, 1968, Panther Bobby Hutton, who held the title Minister of Defense, was killed, and Cleaver was wounded in what both the Oakland police and the Black Panther Party have called an ambush by the other group. In the event, two policemen were shot [36]. This event and others furthered the Panther's reputation for violence and confrontation. The group was rivaled only by the Weathermen among large leftist organizations in this reputation. Hugh Pearson paraphrases writer Julius Lester, writing, "the Left appeared to view the Panthers as gladiators, cheering them on as they got themselves killed[37]. From the fall of 1967 through the end of 1969, nine police officers were killed and fifty-six were wounded in confrontations with the Panthers. The confrontations are believed to have resulted in ten Panther casualties, and an unknown number of injuries. And in 1969 alone, 348 Panthers were arrested for a variety of crimes [38].

[edit] Death of Betty van Patter
When Betty Van Patter was murdered in 1974, David Horowitz became certain that Black Panther members were responsible. The incident led Horowitz to denounce the Panthers and when Huey Newton was shot to death fifteen years later, Horowitz characterized Newton as a killer himself.[39] When a former colleague at Ramparts alleged that Horowitz himself was largely responsible for the death of van Patter by recommending her for the position of BP accountant, Horowitz counter-alleged that "the Panthers had killed more than a dozen people in the course of conducting extortion, prostitution and drug rackets in the Oakland ghetto" and that the organization was committed "to doctrines that are false and to causes that are demonstrably wrongheaded and even evil."[40]
Anonymous from Paris

Paris, TX

#11 Nov 17, 2007
Comparison wrote:
<quoted text>As I said. Nor have I heard of them burning crosses or killing people.
Violence
From the beginning the Black Panther Party's focus on militancy came with a reputation for violence. They often took advantage of a little known California law which made it permissible to carry a loaded rifle or shotgun as long as it was publicly displayed and pointed at no one [32]. These weapons and public threats against police officers, for example chants like "The Revolution has co-ome, it's time to pick up the gu-un. Off the pigs!",[33] helped cement their reputation as a violent organization. But the large part of their reputation came from particular events in which the Panthers were involved.

In October of 1967, Oakland police officer John Frey was shot to death in an altercation with Newton during a traffic stop. In the stop, Newton and backup officer Herbert Heanes also suffered gunshot wounds. Although the result was later reversed, for three years after that Newton was imprisoned for involuntary manslaughter. This incident gained the party even wider recognition by the radical American left, and a "Free Huey" campaign ensued[34].

On May 2, 1967, the California State Assembly Committee on Criminal Procedure was scheduled to convene to discuss what was known as the "Mulford Act", which would ban public displays of loaded firearms. Cleaver and Newton put together a plan to send a group of about 30 Panthers led by Seale from Oakland to Sacramento to protest the bill. The group entered the assembly with their weapons, an event which led to widespread publicity, but also to the arrest of Seale and five others. The group plead guilty to misdemeanor charges of disrupting a legislative session[35].

On April 6, 1968, Panther Bobby Hutton, who held the title Minister of Defense, was killed, and Cleaver was wounded in what both the Oakland police and the Black Panther Party have called an ambush by the other group. In the event, two policemen were shot [36]. This event and others furthered the Panther's reputation for violence and confrontation. The group was rivaled only by the Weathermen among large leftist organizations in this reputation. Hugh Pearson paraphrases writer Julius Lester, writing, "the Left appeared to view the Panthers as gladiators, cheering them on as they got themselves killed[37]. From the fall of 1967 through the end of 1969, nine police officers were killed and fifty-six were wounded in confrontations with the Panthers. The confrontations are believed to have resulted in ten Panther casualties, and an unknown number of injuries. And in 1969 alone, 348 Panthers were arrested for a variety of crimes [38].

[edit] Death of Betty van Patter
When Betty Van Patter was murdered in 1974, David Horowitz became certain that Black Panther members were responsible. The incident led Horowitz to denounce the Panthers and when Huey Newton was shot to death fifteen years later, Horowitz characterized Newton as a killer himself.[39] When a former colleague at Ramparts alleged that Horowitz himself was largely responsible for the death of van Patter by recommending her for the position of BP accountant, Horowitz counter-alleged that "the Panthers had killed more than a dozen people in the course of conducting extortion, prostitution and drug rackets in the Oakland ghetto" and that the organization was committed "to doctrines that are false and to causes that are demonstrably wrongheaded and even evil."[40]

Prominent member H. Rap Brown is serving life imprisonment for the murder of Ricky Leon Kinchen, a Fulton County, Georgia sheriff's deputy, and the wounding of another officer in a gunbattle. Both officers were black.[25]
Anonymous from Paris

Paris, TX

#12 Nov 17, 2007
Comparison wrote:
<quoted text>As I said. Nor have I heard of them burning crosses or killing people.
Nation of Islam:

The Nation Of Islam And Violence
By Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid | November 12, 2002 The Nation of Islam has its own interpretation of Islam and what analysts call a "strong militant tendency." Listen to the radio version
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The membership of sniper suspect John Muhammad in the Nation of Islam has made the background and nature of this group into a national issue of concern. Muhammad changed his name from John Allen Williams after he converted to Islam. At first, Nation of Islam officials declined comment. Later, leader Louis Farrakhan admitted Muhammad was a member.

The Nation of Islam has its own interpretation of Islam and what analysts call a "strong militant tendency." In 1965, Malcolm X, who had left the organization, was gunned down and murdered by members of the group. Louis Farrakhan, now the leader of the Nation of Islam, made headlines on a 60 Minutes by appearing to suggest that his rhetoric may have contributed to the assassination. In a later interview he strongly denied that.

American Muslims have been widely quoted as saying they generally do not consider the Nation of Islam part of their movement. "We don't represent their views, they don't represent our views," said a spokesman for the American Muslim Council. However, Farrakhan is a Muslim who has been honored around the world by Arab and Muslim countries. In 1996 Farrakhan traveled to Iran and Iraq, two members of the Axis of Evil, as well as Libya, whose dictator Moammar Ghadafi offered him $1 billion. A CNN story at the time reported, "He said the money will not be used to arm his followers, despite a report from Iran that he had said there that one day Allah will destroy Americans at hands of Muslims." The full statement attributed to him was, "God will not give Japan and Europe the honor of bringing down the United States. This is an honor God will bestow upon Muslims." But Farrakhan denied making that statement. "I'm not an enemy of America," he said.

Columnist Jeff Jacoby of the Boston Globe said Farrakhan was "offering aid and comfort to anti-American dictators… There is a word for people who encourage their nation's enemies. There is a word for people who conspire to mobilize against their country from within…The word is traitor."

Farrakhan's statements in favor of violence are numerous. He once said, "It is an act of mercy to white people that we end your world... We must end your world and bring in a new world." He also said, "We are at war and we never stop fighting for justice. You must have force... don't drop your gun and don't forget to squeeze." But most reporters are reluctant to report such statements because of the fear of violence from Farrakhan's supporters. In 1984, Farrakhan condemned Milton Coleman, a black reporter for Washington Post, as a traitor after Coleman revealed that Jesse Jackson had, in a conversation with campaign aides, referred to Jews as "Hymies" and to New York City as "Hymietown."

Farrakhan said of Coleman, "One day soon we will punish you with death." However, he denied he was threatening Coleman's life. Farrakhan backed Jackson for president in 1984 and Jackson returned the favor by appearing as the featured speaker at a Muslim Savior's Day rally sponsored by Farrakhan. Jackson was called a "brother" by Farrakhan.
Anonymous from Paris

Paris, TX

#13 Nov 17, 2007
Comparison wrote:
<quoted text>As I said. Nor have I heard of them burning crosses or killing people.
Black Liberation Army (a spinoff of Black Panther Party):

According to a Justice Department report on BLA activity, the Black Liberation Army was suspected of involvement in over 60 incidents of violence between 1970 and 1976.[5] The Fraternal Order of Police blames the BLA for the murders of 13 police officers.[6]

On October 22, 1970, the BLA allegedly planted a bomb in a San Francisco church full of mourners attending the funeral of San Francisco police officer Harold Hamilton, who had been killed in the line of duty while responding to a bank robbery. The bomb was detonated, but no one in the church suffered serious injuries.[7]

On August 29, 1971, three armed men murdered 51-year old San Francisco police officer John Victor Young while he was working at a desk in his police station (which was almost empty at the time due to a bombing attack on a bank that took place earlier. Only one other officer and a civilian clerk were there). Two days later, the San Francisco Chronicle received a letter signed by the BLA claiming responsibility for the attack.

In January 2007, eight men, labeled the San Francisco 8 were charged by a joint state and federal task force with Young's murder.[8] The defendants have been identified as former members of the Black Liberation Army.[9] A similar case was dismissed in 1975 when a judge ruled that police gathered evidence through the use of torture.[10]

On the 3 November 1971, Officer James R. Greene of the Atlanta Police Force was shot dead in his patrol van at a gas station. His wallet, badge and gun were taken, and the evidence at the scene pointed to two suspects. The first was Twymon Meyers, who was killed in a police shootout in 1973, and the second was Kamau Sidiki, who evaded capture until 2002, when he was arrested in New York on a separate charge, and was recognised as one of the men wanted in the Greene murder. Apparently the two men had attacked the officer to gain standing with their compatriots within Black Liberation Army.[11]

In another high-profile incident, Assata Shakur, Zayd Shakur and Sundiata Acoli allegedly opened fire on state troopers in New Jersey after being pulled over for a broken taillight. Zayd Shakur and state trooper Werner Foerster were both killed during the exchange. Following her capture, Shakur was tried in six different criminal trials. According to Shakur she was beaten and tortured during her incarceration in a number of different federal and state prisons. The charges ranged from kidnapping to assault and battery to bank robbery. Shakur was found guilty of the murder of both Foerster and her companion Zayd Shakur but escaped prison in 1979 and eventually relocated to Cuba. Acoli was convicted of killing Foerster and sentenced to life in prison.

The BLA was active in the US until at least 1981 when a Brinks truck robbery, conducted with support from Weather Underground members Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert, left a guard and two police officers dead. Boudin and Gilbert, along with several BLA members, were subsequently arrested.[12]

Following the collapse of the BLA, some members (including Ashanti Alston and Kuwasi Balagoon) became outspoken proponents of anarchism. Balagoon died in prison of an AIDS-related disease in 1986.
Comparison

Paris, TX

#14 Nov 17, 2007
I think the key word in the last paragraph is alleged. My understanding is the Black Panthers were heroes who helped keep drugs out of their community, who looked out for their communities. Because they voiced their opinions they became known as a militant group because they didn't just sit back and take what was dished out to them. Back then anyone who spoke up became a militant.
Anonymous from Paris

Paris, TX

#15 Nov 17, 2007
Comparison wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't seen any of these other organizations post any names or make threats. That's a Huge difference.
Nation of Yahweh:
At Yahweh's direction, many murders and attempted murders in the Miami area occurred. One of the most violent members of the group, Robert Rozier ("Rozier")[4], testified at trial that an ultra- secret group called the "Brotherhood" was established within the cult. This group was to perform any task that Yahweh directed, including murder. Yahweh conducted separate meetings for Brotherhood members, which were to be kept secret under penalty of death. Among those present at Brotherhood meetings were Rozier and defendants Grant, Pace, Beasley, Ingraham, Maurice, James, Yahweh, and sometimes Gaines. To become a member of the Brotherhood, one had to kill a white person and bring proof of the kill to Yahweh in the form of a head, an ear, or some other body part. Between April and October 1986, Yahweh sent his death angels into the Miami community on multiple occasions to kill white people randomly and to commit acts of retribution against blacks who interfered with the Yahwehs' sales of products and collection of donations. Yahweh also directed the killings of white people as retribution for 400 years of oppression and for specific acts of alleged police brutality against blacks occurring at the time.
At the trial of this case, Yahweh took the stand and testified in his own behalf. Additionally, Ingraham called Paul George ("George"), a historian, as an expert witness to testify that the Yahweh religion is a true religion.
Anonymous from Paris

Paris, TX

#16 Nov 17, 2007
We now briefly summarize each racketeering act.
Racketeering Act 1: Attempted Homicide of Eric Burke.
When Burke broke away from the group, Yahweh preached that he should be killed. The plan failed, however, notwithstanding Yahweh's directions to his followers to get machetes and "roll Burke's head."
Racketeering Act 2: Homicide of Aston Green.
Green was a member of the cult who attempted to leave. Green returned to the Temple to retrieve his Bible, at which time he was taken to a back room where 10 or so members beat him almost to the point of death. Semiconscious, Green was taken to a remote construction area by Ingraham, Foster, and Ricardo, where Green, still alive, was decapitated with a machete. Upon learning of the murder, Yahweh was delighted and worked the crowd in the Temple into a frenzy where they all stood and clapped.
Racketeering Acts 3 and 4: Homicide of Carlton Carey; Attempted Homicide of Mildred Banks.
Carey was shot several times and died at the scene. Banks was also shot, and she sustained a deep gash in her neck during an attempt to decapitate her with a machete. She survived but was unable to identify her assailants.
Racketeering Act 5: Homicide of Leonard Dupree.
Because Dupree was known to be a karate expert, Yahweh openly challenged him to fight Lightburn, the Yahwehs' resident martial- arts expert. The two men squared off in front of about 30-60 Yahweh onlookers. Dupree quickly knocked Lightburn down, at which point Yahweh ordered all present, including Ingraham and Maurice, to attack Dupree. Ingraham struck Dupree in the face with a tire jack. Dupree was literally beaten to death. During the struggle, Gaines locked the doors of the Temple at Yahweh's request. Yahweh allowed no one to leave and made everyone, including women and children, strike and kick Dupree's lifeless body. Dupree's body has never been found.
Anonymous from Paris

Paris, TX

#17 Nov 17, 2007
Racketeering Acts 7 and 8: Homicides of Glendell Fowler and Kurt Doerr.
Yahweh told Rozier (who murdered six people at Yahweh's direction) to kill a white devil, cut his head off, and become a son of God Yahweh. Rozier walked around the Coconut Grove area of Miami, spotted an intoxicated white man, followed him into an apartment, told the man he was an angel of Yahweh, and then stabbed him to death. Upon leaving the apartment, Rozier noticed a second white man inside the apartment. Rozier also stabbed him to death.
Racketeering Act 9: Delray Beach Arson.
The people in the Delray Beach neighborhood of Miami had attacked several of the Yahweh members. Yahweh selected 15-20 people to firebomb the area so that similar incidents would not occur in the future. An altercation occurred between the residents of the area and the Yahwehs. Notwithstanding the fact that the police arrived, the Yahwehs threw dozens of firebombs. Yahweh ordered the arsonists to stand in front of the residences and use their swords and machetes to murder anyone who tried to exit the burning houses. The residents were too terrified to come out and face Yahweh's "death angels."
Racketeering Act 10: Homicide of Clair Walters.
Walters was found in an abandoned hotel with his throat cut and his left ear removed. Yahweh member Ardmore Canton later showed Rozier the ear that he had cut from Walters' lifeless body.
Racketeering Act 11: Homicide of James Myers.
James M. Littlejohn ("Littlejohn") told Rozier about killing a white man. Littlejohn said that he had been taught by Yahweh to stab the victim in the kidney area to cause the victim to go into shock. When police found Myers, he had been stabbed in the back and kidney area, and although both ears had been cut, neither had been severed from his body.
Anonymous from Paris

Paris, TX

#18 Nov 17, 2007
Racketeering Act 12: Homicide of Lyle Austin Bellinger.
Carl Douglas Perry ("Perry") told Rozier that he had killed a white man who had been wearing a Star of David tee shirt sold by the Yahwehs. Perry stabbed the victim several times after which the victim fled and fell near a canal. The police found the body of a white man, Lyle Austin Bellinger, lying near a canal.
Racketeering Act 13: Homicide of Raymond Kelly.
Yahweh ordered Rozier and Perry to kill several white devils during a single night in September 1986. They rode the metrorail south and followed potential victims in Coconut Grove before walking south to the University of Miami in Coral Gables. Rozier and Perry later found two white victims whom they stabbed to death, severing both ears from one of the victims.
Racketeering Act 14: Homicide of Cecil Branch.
Branch was stabbed over two dozen times, and one of his ears was severed. The police found Branch face down on the floor of his house; he was bound and gagged with strips of bed sheets. A latent fingerprint on the frame of Branch's front door matched Rozier's prints.
Racketeering Act 15: Homicide of Harry Byers.
Anthony Murphy ("Murphy") had never killed a white devil and decided that he would look for a white child, thinking a child would be easier to kill than an adult. Instead, he found Harry Byers, whom he stabbed several times in the abdomen before cutting off his left ear.
Racketeering Act 16: Homicide of Reinaldo Echevarria.
Brian K. Lewis ("Lewis") stabbed and killed Echevarria, a white Cuban male, but sustained severe injuries himself when his hand slid down the knife blade during the stabbing. Lewis almost lost his fingers, but they were saved through surgery. Echevarria had been stabbed so severely that medical experts described the murder as "overkill."
Racketeering Acts 17 and 18: Homicides of Anthony Brown and Rudy Broussard.
In October 1986, the Yahwehs tried to buy an apartment complex located in Opa Locka, Florida, which consisted of five buildings occupied by drug dealers and dozens of women and children. Brown and Broussard stood up to the Yahwehs, at which time Yahweh ordered Rozier and Perry to kill them. Both were later shot in the head at point- blank range.
Anonymous from Paris

Paris, TX

#19 Nov 17, 2007
Black hate groups can be just as violent as white hate groups.
Comparison

Paris, TX

#20 Nov 17, 2007
Anonymous from Paris wrote:
Black hate groups can be just as violent as white hate groups.
What are the stats on how many murders the KKK has been responsible for since they came into existance. Two wrongs don't make a right but the black groups came into existance because of the KKK and the way their people were being treated.

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