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Titantic

Paris, TX

#1 Mar 15, 2014
How come when a relative of one of Lamar
County SO is arrested for drugs, there is nothing in the Paris News and there is no arrest record? Can anyone tell me what this really means?
Really

Paris, TX

#2 Mar 16, 2014
Titantic wrote:
How come when a relative of one of Lamar
County SO is arrested for drugs, there is nothing in the Paris News and there is no arrest record? Can anyone tell me what this really means?
Who was it? If it's true, then there is nothing wrong with posting it. But to answer your question, this goes on all the time I'm sure. But if you are someone like Chip Jackson, you can get your divorce and arrest records hidden too. It's not fair but classic Lamar County.
just try

Paris, TX

#3 Mar 16, 2014
Titantic wrote:
How come when a relative of one of Lamar
County SO is arrested for drugs, there is nothing in the Paris News and there is no arrest record? Can anyone tell me what this really means?
Fill out an FOIA and request from the LCSO any records they have, if none, you'll need an actual witness to the event to do anything I feel.
Gullibility Reigns

Paris, TX

#4 Mar 16, 2014
Titantic wrote:
How come when a relative of one of Lamar
County SO is arrested for drugs, there is nothing in the Paris News and there is no arrest record? Can anyone tell me what this really means?
That maybe they weren't arrested? Or maybe it wasn't a felony? Perhaps you should call the Paris News or the Sheriff and ask.
How it works

Alvarado, TX

#5 Mar 16, 2014
Titantic wrote:
How come when a relative of one of Lamar
County SO is arrested for drugs, there is nothing in the Paris News and there is no arrest record? Can anyone tell me what this really means?
You can report what you've heard without fear of a defamation claim if you simply be sure to say it is what you've heard, rather than reporting it as fact. This would aid people in chasing it down as fact or fiction by filing a FOIA request, by rooting around on their own and reporting back, or otherwise. Dates, arresting officer[s], location, witness ID's, etc. would be helpful. If you have this information, you should publish it. As it is, instead of advancing the argument that this is typical Lamar County shenanigans, you may be advancing the suspicion that your post is typical Topix rumor mongering...... Public officials suspected of misconduct are fair game for public discussion.

Arrest records are supposed to be public record as a matter of law. it is a crime to tamper with them, or any other official document.
lulu

Dallas, TX

#6 Mar 16, 2014
Really wrote:
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Who was it? If it's true, then there is nothing wrong with posting it. But to answer your question, this goes on all the time I'm sure. But if you are someone like Chip Jackson, you can get your divorce and arrest records hidden too. It's not fair but classic Lamar County.
if you look it up under the right name you will find it.
fact

Euless, TX

#7 Mar 16, 2014
D neely was busted for drugs in cliffords truck,but you didn't this reported in the Paris news. Wonder why.
Titanic

Paris, TX

#8 Mar 16, 2014
I heard that Detective's first name is Lee, and brother's first name is Jeff.
Gullibility Reigns

Paris, TX

#9 Mar 16, 2014
fact wrote:
D neely was busted for drugs in cliffords truck,but you didn't this reported in the Paris news. Wonder why.
Give us the when, where, and who. I take it you were there?
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Alvarado, TX

#10 Mar 16, 2014
fact wrote:
D neely was busted for drugs in cliffords truck,but you didn't this reported in the Paris news. Wonder why.
OK. When did that happen? Was Neely prosecuted for this? He runs around town a free man now...which is inconsistent with a criminal history. The lamar County convention is prison time for second or more drug convictions. Please share what you know about this.
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Alvarado, TX

#11 Mar 16, 2014
Titanic wrote:
I heard that Detective's first name is Lee, and brother's first name is Jeff.
Leigh Foreman is a local detective. I hear his son was arrested for public intox recently which disqualified him for the fire department. Same arrest? Or was his brother also arrested?
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Alvarado, TX

#12 Mar 16, 2014
Gullibility Reigns wrote:
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Give us the when, where, and who. I take it you were there?
David Charles Neeley's Lamar County criminal history is detailed at

http://173.219.161.52/judicial search/Scripts/UVlink.isa/lama r/WEBSERV/CriminalSearch .

The docket sheet for the November 2013 arrest for possession is interesting. The case was heard by Clifford. Clifford sent the Court Clerk an email requesting a court appointed attorney for Mr. Neeley. You guessed it - David Turner. Notwithstanding Neeley's LENGTHY criminal history, DA Gary Young tendered Mr. Neeley a plea deal involving straight probation.

What is the basis for your assertion that Mr. Neeley was arrested in Clifford's truck? If true, Clifford sitting on this case is profoundly unethical.
fact

Euless, TX

#13 Mar 16, 2014
Heard it on the scanner when they busted him.
Gullibility Reigns

Paris, TX

#14 Mar 16, 2014
fact wrote:
Heard it on the scanner when they busted him.
Oh -- well why didn't you say so? That certainly is proof positive! LOL!
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Alvarado, TX

#15 Mar 17, 2014
Gullibility Reigns wrote:
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Oh -- well why didn't you say so? That certainly is proof positive! LOL!
So, there's quite a bit of very hasty dismissal of the truth this post and i'm just wondering if the critics might share the basis of the dismissal? A poster claims he heard the radio dispatch of the arrest of David Neeley while he was driving a vehicle owned by Judge Eric Clifford and that post is dismissed without any apparent basis for the dismissal. Maybe he is wrong, or lying, but it would be helpful to know if the critics are merely refusing to believe it or actually have evidence to the contrary. I mean, it sounds like this poster actually heard this description of events by the police...... If the critics know better...please to share.

And whatever else anyone claims about evidence, one thing is for certain - the arrest reports will be a matter of public record in the District Clerk's office. Anyone going to check?
just try

Paris, TX

#16 Mar 18, 2014
And whatever else anyone claims about evidence, one thing is for certain - the arrest reports will be a matter of public record in the District Clerk's office. Anyone going to check?

You may go to the LCSO and do a FOIA requesting the report and they will give you what they have.
How it works

Alvarado, TX

#18 Mar 18, 2014
just try wrote:
And whatever else anyone claims about evidence, one thing is for certain - the arrest reports will be a matter of public record in the District Clerk's office. Anyone going to check?
You may go to the LCSO and do a FOIA requesting the report and they will give you what they have.
So, call me obsessive, but I had a lawyer look into the Neeley arrest claim. He found the following.

Neeley was arrested in June 2013 riding on a red scooter owned by Judge Clifford when a North Main business owner called the police on him. He was found carrying a quantity of meth in a pouch. He was charged with drug possession. Dollins Bail Bonds bailed him out.

Judge Clifford intruded on the normal random court appointed attorney process by sending an email to the Court Clerk to have Dave Turner appointed as counsel for Neeley. That email is in the court file.

Clifford presided over the case. He sentenced Neeley to two years in TDC but probated the sentence. This is unusually lenient in light of Neeley's extensive criminal history.

All of this is troubling on its own, but in light of the Jessica Mitchell situation it is particularly problematic.[The Lamar County DA recently had Clifford removed from Ms. Mitchell's felony case b/c the DA alleged that Clifford privately counseled Mitchell to just plead guilty so could insure she was probated]. Many people here disputed the truth of those allegations. However, the Neeley situation appears to mirror the Mitchell situation: in both cases, Clifford tried to assist a personal relationship in a criminal matter in his court. In Neeley, he succeeded; in Mitchell, the DA apparently got fed up and had him recused before he could do it again.

This is exceedingly unethical. And both instances are a matter of public record. Now. I'm just really interested to hear what the naysayers have to offer....
Gullibility Reigns

Paris, TX

#19 Mar 18, 2014
How it works wrote:
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So, there's quite a bit of very hasty dismissal of the truth this post and i'm just wondering if the critics might share the basis of the dismissal? A poster claims he heard the radio dispatch of the arrest of David Neeley while he was driving a vehicle owned by Judge Eric Clifford and that post is dismissed without any apparent basis for the dismissal. Maybe he is wrong, or lying, but it would be helpful to know if the critics are merely refusing to believe it or actually have evidence to the contrary. I mean, it sounds like this poster actually heard this description of events by the police...... If the critics know better...please to share.
And whatever else anyone claims about evidence, one thing is for certain - the arrest reports will be a matter of public record in the District Clerk's office. Anyone going to check?
You don't think the credibility of an anonymous post on Topix is "iffy"? LOL! I would never take as truth something I read on Topix.
Gullibility Reigns

Paris, TX

#20 Mar 18, 2014
How it works wrote:
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So, call me obsessive, but I had a lawyer look into the Neeley arrest claim. He found the following.
Neeley was arrested in June 2013 riding on a red scooter owned by Judge Clifford when a North Main business owner called the police on him. He was found carrying a quantity of meth in a pouch. He was charged with drug possession. Dollins Bail Bonds bailed him out.
Judge Clifford intruded on the normal random court appointed attorney process by sending an email to the Court Clerk to have Dave Turner appointed as counsel for Neeley. That email is in the court file.
Clifford presided over the case. He sentenced Neeley to two years in TDC but probated the sentence. This is unusually lenient in light of Neeley's extensive criminal history.
All of this is troubling on its own, but in light of the Jessica Mitchell situation it is particularly problematic.[The Lamar County DA recently had Clifford removed from Ms. Mitchell's felony case b/c the DA alleged that Clifford privately counseled Mitchell to just plead guilty so could insure she was probated]. Many people here disputed the truth of those allegations. However, the Neeley situation appears to mirror the Mitchell situation: in both cases, Clifford tried to assist a personal relationship in a criminal matter in his court. In Neeley, he succeeded; in Mitchell, the DA apparently got fed up and had him recused before he could do it again.
This is exceedingly unethical. And both instances are a matter of public record. Now. I'm just really interested to hear what the naysayers have to offer....
How much did you pay the lawyer? And who was he? Are you reporting Clifford to the State Board on Judicial Conduct? I assume if you're spending money on this situation, you must have that in mind. And I thought the other poster said he was in Clifford's truck. When the anonymous stories conflict, it raises red flags.
How it works

Alvarado, TX

#21 Mar 18, 2014
Well. There you have it.

Notwithstanding the FACT that the police report describing everything about the Neeley arrest and Clifford's email and sentencing are all three in the court file in the clerk's office, we have deniers. This is how corruption becomes culture: a community simply refuses to acknowledge the facts and before you know it, what was once exceptional becomes The Rule.

How much did I pay the lawyer? Assuming this is a suggestion that the lawyer fabricated the evidence in order to collect a fee, please understand I am looking at photocopies of the documents of the Neeley file from the clerk's office. They have file stamps on the from the clerk. If you dispute the documents, go check the file yourself - I accepted that challenge and report here what they say.

As far as initiating a complaint to the Judicial Conduct Commission: for a person who seems to insist on refusing to accept facts not in evidence [a trait I find admirable], your query about the JCC complaint indicates your skepticism is a matter of opportunity rather than integrity [more disingenuous that admirable]- what makes you think such a complaint is not presently underway, my friend?

Stay tuned. The Neeley story is but a chapter.

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