GCT student teacher update

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Mountain Home, AR

#1 Feb 25, 2013
turtle face

United States

#2 Feb 25, 2013
I't didn't have one comment, or mention what kind of trouble the girl was in???? What are the charges she is facing?
seriously

Paragould, AR

#3 Feb 25, 2013
She is a minor and a child. She didn't commit a crime, so there's nothing criminal or otherwise a crime, that she could commit. End of Story.
However, he, as an adult and over the age of 18 as well as an intern teacher (as student teachers are held accountable as regular teachers) did in fact violate the law in several regards.
a.) He was over 18 and had sex (alleged to) with a minor, which is Statutory Rape).
b.) As a teacher (even an intern) he had sex with a student (as alleged), which is a criminal felony on several statutes. Look them up and you will see that it is clear cut.
c.) He knew he shouldn't do this and still did it anyway, which there's no excuse for because he knew and was told ahead of time not to pursue this, but he did it anyway.
d.) Sex with students is unethical, immoral, and just plain wrong.
turtle face

Longview, TX

#4 Feb 25, 2013
Omg.....she knew she shouldn't do this, but she done it anyway also. Sex with teachers is unethical, immoral, and just plain wrong also. She is a minor and a child that knew exactly what she was doing .END OF STORY... maybe she should be given a trophy, a medal for crying out loud.
whatever

Bossier City, LA

#5 Feb 26, 2013
The girl as with any minor consenting to have sex with someone over age should in fact be held accountable as well!!!! I'm not saying what the intern did was right but BOTH parties should face charges!!!! END OF STORY!! If these so-called minors would be held accountable for their own actions, I believe there would be less offenses as this one. Unless of course it wasn't consensual and force was involved.. Well then that's a new ball game!
turtle face

Longview, TX

#6 Feb 26, 2013
whatever wrote:
The girl as with any minor consenting to have sex with someone over age should in fact be held accountable as well!!!! I'm not saying what the intern did was right but BOTH parties should face charges!!!! END OF STORY!! If these so-called minors would be held accountable for their own actions, I believe there would be less offenses as this one. Unless of course it wasn't consensual and force was involved.. Well then that's a new ball game!
thank you!! Well said!
seriously

Paragould, AR

#7 Feb 26, 2013
What a messed up sense of reality. Society is to protect minors. That's why society has laws that are clear cut about statutory rape, which is what this is.

So under your beliefs it is OK for 20 year olds or for that matter, 30 to 40 year olds to prey on Jr. High kids for their sexual enjoyment?

She didn't commit a crime, so quit whining and crying about it. No one knows if it was even consensual or not, which under the law it doesn't matter as it is statutory rape. Just be glad that he got caught so that he didn't have a career of sex with kids he would have been teaching.
sokar

Sikeston, MO

#8 Feb 26, 2013
seriously wrote:
What a messed up sense of reality. Society is to protect minors. That's why society has laws that are clear cut about statutory rape, which is what this is.
So under your beliefs it is OK for 20 year olds or for that matter, 30 to 40 year olds to prey on Jr. High kids for their sexual enjoyment?
She didn't commit a crime, so quit whining and crying about it. No one knows if it was even consensual or not, which under the law it doesn't matter as it is statutory rape. Just be glad that he got caught so that he didn't have a career of sex with kids he would have been teaching.
That's not what their saying, their saying...
if it was consensual and it is found she knew full well what she was doing then she should have some punishment also.
If it comes out the guy did it then he should absolutely be punished, if it was forced he definitely be punished. If it is found she consented and was okay with it and knew the consequences she should also face consequences.

Someone's being a "minor" doesn't make them unable to understand what they are doing or consent. What magic happens between 15 and 18 that creates this aura of awakening of consciousness.
turtle face

Longview, TX

#9 Feb 26, 2013
sokar wrote:
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That's not what their saying, their saying...
if it was consensual and it is found she knew full well what she was doing then she should have some punishment also.
If it comes out the guy did it then he should absolutely be punished, if it was forced he definitely be punished. If it is found she consented and was okay with it and knew the consequences she should also face consequences.
Someone's being a "minor" doesn't make them unable to understand what they are doing or consent. What magic happens between 15 and 18 that creates this aura of awakening of consciousness.
agreed!
seriously

Paragould, AR

#10 Feb 26, 2013
It doesn't matter if it was consensual or not or if she knew what she was doing. According to the law, she is or was unable to give consent. Thus a minor. The legal age of consent in Arkansas is 15. Therefore it is statutory rape. And accordingly, it doesn't matter what she knew or thought she knew, under the law she could not "consent" to it. Thus, she, the child/victim, did not commit a crime, and therefore because she couldn't legally give consent what crime or punishment are you wanting her to be held accountable for?

Again you ignored the relevant question posed "So under your beliefs it is OK for 20 year olds or for that matter, 30 to 40 year olds to prey on Jr. High kids for their sexual enjoyment?" or are the laws in effect to prevent people from perpetuating sex on a minor?
sokar

Sikeston, MO

#11 Feb 26, 2013
seriously wrote:
It doesn't matter if it was consensual or not or if she knew what she was doing. According to the law, she is or was unable to give consent. Thus a minor. The legal age of consent in Arkansas is 15. Therefore it is statutory rape. And accordingly, it doesn't matter what she knew or thought she knew, under the law she could not "consent" to it. Thus, she, the child/victim, did not commit a crime, and therefore because she couldn't legally give consent what crime or punishment are you wanting her to be held accountable for?
Again you ignored the relevant question posed "So under your beliefs it is OK for 20 year olds or for that matter, 30 to 40 year olds to prey on Jr. High kids for their sexual enjoyment?" or are the laws in effect to prevent people from perpetuating sex on a minor?
Age of consent laws, are rather outdated, technically you're right but logically you're impotent.
If the person consents and is in understanding of what their doing (a fourteen fifteen year old may be) then yes it's okay. People used to marry at 14 and 15 just cause our culture changed doesn't change biology or development.

so are you saying if she was 15 that's okay what does a few months make it better?
seriously

Paragould, AR

#12 Feb 26, 2013
The laws are outdated according to whom? you? If they are outdated, then petition or get someone to try to change them. Which btw, you will epic fail, because they are there for a reason. And no that's not impotent. It's technically, legally, and morally correct, to protect kids from being sexually abused, molested, coerced, or statutorily raped.

It doesn't matter on months as far as age of consent. There are 2 laws on consent, as well as teacher and undue influence laws to protect from sexual predators.

As for your comment about people marrying at 14 or 15, then yes, this happened back in biblical times and throughout history, and way back then, people married to date someone and only that person for the rest of their life, expecting to only be with that person for the rest of their life. And now we date to marry and don't value marriage and sleep with whomever because society has changed.

So, it's simple, if you think it's ok for a 22-23 year old person to pursue a 14 year old, or for that matter, a 30 to 40 to 50 year old to pursue a 14 year old, then you can go F yourself.

Because you obviously think what he did was ok and approve of people having sex with minors. and probably don't have kids of your own that you would protect them from a teacher, preacher, cop, dentist, doctor, or someone in authority having sex with them. And you probably think what the coach from Penn State did was ok as well, as 'technically they gave consent" and 'knew what they were doing" but in your sick mind, this justifies everything.

Either way, it's statutory rape and sex with a minor is wrong. So, please justify how you can explain supporting a sexual predator and statutory rape, other than she knew and should pay a consequence or if you have a minor child, explain how the laws aren't in place to protect him/her.
Enough is Enough

Pearcy, AR

#13 Feb 26, 2013
sokar wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not what their saying, their saying...
if it was consensual and it is found she knew full well what she was doing then she should have some punishment also.
If it comes out the guy did it then he should absolutely be punished, if it was forced he definitely be punished. If it is found she consented and was okay with it and knew the consequences she should also face consequences.
Someone's being a "minor" doesn't make them unable to understand what they are doing or consent. What magic happens between 15 and 18 that creates this aura of awakening of consciousness.
First of all, nobody is saying weather it was consensual or not other than the rumor spreading scum on topix. Second, she is 14 not 15. Get your shit straight before you start trashing kids cause you will most likely see a day where you will have to eat those words. The only update is that the guy has been formally charged! And all of you people who think details will ever be released to press about the minor child can keep holding your breath. It will never happen! Laws are set to protect children from gossip hungry predators like you!
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#14 Feb 26, 2013
Consent or not. An intelligent adult would view any sexual action by a student towards them as a issue to report. A sex offender views it as an opportunity. He broke the law. Period. If she consented, then that is the poor judgement of a minor. The thing is that apparently he, an adult, didn't use good judgement and broke the law.
FTW

Canton, TX

#15 Feb 27, 2013
Throw that hooch behind bars!!!! Let the scum there school her!
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#16 Feb 27, 2013
FTW wrote:
Throw that hooch behind bars!!!! Let the scum there school her!
My aren't we the Neanderthal.
turtle face

Longview, TX

#17 Feb 27, 2013
FTW wrote:
Throw that hooch behind bars!!!! Let the scum there school her!
yes, she should be held accountable, im sure she instigated the situation anyway.
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#18 Feb 27, 2013
turtle face wrote:
<quoted text>yes, she should be held accountable, im sure she instigated the situation anyway.
But he acted on it.
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#19 Feb 27, 2013
What do you want her charged with? Solicitation.
FTW

Dallas, TX

#20 Feb 27, 2013
Guest wrote:
What do you want her charged with? Solicitation.
That's a start!

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