What did God say to Moses about Gays?

What did God say to Moses about Gays?

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God to Moses on Punishing

Paragould, AR

#1 Jan 21, 2013
"20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

So God told Moses to tell everyone to kill gays?

Yep, it's in the Bible, even though it sounds like something out of the Taliban.

So if you are going to quote the Bible on gays, then do it correctly.

Jesus never once said anything about gays. But God did. Quote it. Embrace it. Or do you Christians reject the words of God?
guest

Paragould, AR

#2 Jan 21, 2013
God to Moses on Punishing wrote:
"20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
So God told Moses to tell everyone to kill gays?
Yep, it's in the Bible, even though it sounds like something out of the Taliban.
So if you are going to quote the Bible on gays, then do it correctly.
Jesus never once said anything about gays. But God did. Quote it. Embrace it. Or do you Christians reject the words of God?
You have to rightly divide Gods Word. That was under the old law. After the death of Christ on the cross we went into the Christian dispensation where we are now. We are not told to kill gays, now. The Bible says they are condemned to hell for that sin. That is if they don't repent.
God to Moses on Punishing

Paragould, AR

#3 Jan 21, 2013
guest wrote:
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You have to rightly divide Gods Word. That was under the old law. After the death of Christ on the cross we went into the Christian dispensation where we are now. We are not told to kill gays, now. The Bible says they are condemned to hell for that sin. That is if they don't repent.
Well, I often times hear Christians say this "you have to rightly divide Gods Word" mantra, but they seem to do so very selectively. So gays are still to be condemned and criminalized, but you just aren't supposed to kill them anymore? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense when referring to passages that say otherwise to justify your condemnation of gays. Also, you are rejecting words that God told to Moses while giving him the 10 Commandments. Do we throw the 10 Commandments out as well? If no, then why not? The answer seems to be because that isn't convenient, and it is easy to want to run away from things like what God told Moses to tell people to do to gays. Never once does the Bible specifically take that order from God back.
Words of Jesus

Paragould, AR

#4 Jan 21, 2013
guest wrote:
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You have to rightly divide Gods Word. That was under the old law. After the death of Christ on the cross we went into the Christian dispensation where we are now. We are not told to kill gays, now. The Bible says they are condemned to hell for that sin. That is if they don't repent.
Matthew 19-24

"Then Jesus said to his disciples,'I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.'"

"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Jesus was asked who will not get into heaven in that section of Matthew, and he mentioned murders, liars, theifs, adulters once each.

And then Jesus harped on and on about the apparent sin of being rich, saying that it is hard for the rich to get into heaven (which is what sins by definition prevent someone from doing).

In that passage Jesus puts the rich in the same category as murders, liars, thiefs, adulters, and of course with God all things are possible and they can be saved if they give up their murderous, lying, stealing, cheating, or capitalistic ways and ask for God's forgiveness for those sins.

Jesus never once mentioned gays though.

As a Christian, besides the gays that Jesus never once mentioned, do you condemn the rich as Jesus unambiguously did?

If not, then how do you explain that away?
Guest

Paragould, AR

#5 Jan 21, 2013
guest wrote:
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You have to rightly divide Gods Word. That was under the old law. After the death of Christ on the cross we went into the Christian dispensation where we are now. We are not told to kill gays, now. The Bible says they are condemned to hell for that sin. That is if they don't repent.
Do you still condemn those who word on Sundays? The Bible says to kill people who do that. It also says to kill anyone who professes to be a witch. It also says that it is an abomination to wear blended fabrics, as well as to eat shellfish, or for a man who is missing one or more testicle to step foot in a Church. Do you still condem those actions? Or just gays?
Guest

Paragould, AR

#6 Jan 21, 2013
I meant work on Sundays.
Noah

United States

#7 Jan 21, 2013
Read John 3:16 you dummies...if you want to find out how to get "into" heaven instead of how to "not" get into heaven.

There's a million ways to not get there but only one way for every living soul to get there!!! man, woman, gay, straight, sideways, black, white, or green, crook, honest or whatever..it's really simple unless your brain is bible fried.

Quit thumpin your good book and try to find some common sense because you'll not find a Church of Christ section, Baptist, Catholic, or any other denomination assigned quarters inside the gate and thank god your goofy way of thinking won't come with you!!! otherwise you'd never get in.
Guest

United States

#8 Jan 21, 2013
God to Moses on Punishing wrote:
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Well, I often times hear Christians say this "you have to rightly divide Gods Word" mantra, but they seem to do so very selectively. So gays are still to be condemned and criminalized, but you just aren't supposed to kill them anymore? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense when referring to passages that say otherwise to justify your condemnation of gays. Also, you are rejecting words that God told to Moses while giving him the 10 Commandments. Do we throw the 10 Commandments out as well? If no, then why not? The answer seems to be because that isn't convenient, and it is easy to want to run away from things like what God told Moses to tell people to do to gays. Never once does the Bible specifically take that order from God back.
People like you argue about the Bible yet don't know enough about it to argue.
If its mentioned in the New Dispensation or after the cross then its today's law. By after the cross I mean after Jesus died on the cross at which time the law of Moses ended.
The Jews still hold to the old law because they don't accept Christ. But Christians do accept Him therefore we follow the new law. Yet, we are told the old law exists for our learning.
Homosexuality is such an unnatural act against nature and God because your body is His temple because we are made in His image. This is why the act is so repulsive to most and the very
invokes disgusts in most people.
However, the world, or unbelievers have attempted to whitewash this act and make it sociably acceptable but it will never be in the eyes of God. God will send sinners to hell and homosexuals are among those to be sent there.
Guest

United States

#9 Jan 21, 2013
God to Moses on Punishing wrote:
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Well, I often times hear Christians say this "you have to rightly divide Gods Word" mantra, but they seem to do so very selectively. So gays are still to be condemned and criminalized, but you just aren't supposed to kill them anymore? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense when referring to passages that say otherwise to justify your condemnation of gays. Also, you are rejecting words that God told to Moses while giving him the 10 Commandments. Do we throw the 10 Commandments out as well? If no, then why not? The answer seems to be because that isn't convenient, and it is easy to want to run away from things like what God told Moses to tell people to do to gays. Never once does the Bible specifically take that order from God back.
Well, go gather up the rocks!!! Really, God will take revenge on them. They repulse me to the point that I could,with little urging, stone them. But I would be in the wrong so ill leave vengeance to our just God.

As far the Ten Commandments, I think they are all mentioned again in the New Testament. Except for keeping the sabbath holy. The sabbath was on Saturday which was observed by the Jews under Moses law. If I'm mistaken someone bring to my attention, please.
The first day of the week is our day of worship that is to be observed now.
guest

United States

#10 Jan 21, 2013
I can't give Scriptures right now but Jesus said he did not come to change the laws of God. Also, the bible says we are to follow the laws of the land unless they go against Gods instructions.
The Dude

Jonesboro, AR

#11 Jan 21, 2013
God does not change his mind, Malachi.
This divide the law stuff is made up by Christians who find living the word too difficult when it does not suit them.
The law is the law. Either you live the word to its letter or you are damned.
Cry all you want about the old law not counting, its in the book, God said it, and God does not change, he knows the past, the present, and the future.
Not very many people will ever see paradise. I myself will not because it is impossible for me to live the full extent of the law.
Hmmm

United States

#12 Jan 21, 2013
Guest wrote:
<quoted text> People like you argue about the Bible yet don't know enough about it to argue.
If its mentioned in the New Dispensation or after the cross then its today's law. By after the cross I mean after Jesus died on the cross at which time the law of Moses ended.
The Jews still hold to the old law because they don't accept Christ. But Christians do accept Him therefore we follow the new law. Yet, we are told the old law exists for our learning.
Homosexuality is such an unnatural act against nature and God because your body is His temple because we are made in His image. This is why the act is so repulsive to most and the very
invokes disgusts in most people.
However, the world, or unbelievers have attempted to whitewash this act and make it sociably acceptable but it will never be in the eyes of God. God will send sinners to hell and homosexuals are among those to be sent there.
that makes you God then. To know who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.
guest

United States

#13 Jan 21, 2013
God blesses everyone in different ways. Its not a sin to be rich but there are many ways to get that way. It is wrong to be greedy and unkind and selfish etc. If God blesses us with riches that's fine but if me lie and steal and cheat and murder to get it we are going to be in trouble. We are to help our fellow man as well. The Bible teaches us there will be good and bad times and we should enjoy God's blessings when they are given and not question Him when things aren't going so well. It's easy to be happy when we have it easy but its a huge challenge when we lose a child or are suffering from a horrible disease or something like the death of someone we love.
Guest

United States

#14 Jan 21, 2013
Words of Jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
Matthew 19-24
"Then Jesus said to his disciples,'I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.'"
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Jesus was asked who will not get into heaven in that section of Matthew, and he mentioned murders, liars, theifs, adulters once each.
And then Jesus harped on and on about the apparent sin of being rich, saying that it is hard for the rich to get into heaven (which is what sins by definition prevent someone from doing).
In that passage Jesus puts the rich in the same category as murders, liars, thiefs, adulters, and of course with God all things are possible and they can be saved if they give up their murderous, lying, stealing, cheating, or capitalistic ways and ask for God's forgiveness for those sins.
Jesus never once mentioned gays though.
As a Christian, besides the gays that Jesus never once mentioned, do you condemn the rich as Jesus unambiguously did?
If not, then how do you explain that away?
Jesus gave apostles authority to give laws as directed by the Holy Spirt which is part of the god head. Therein Paul mentioned in I Corinthians 6:9. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers,nor homosexuals, nor sodomites
6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.(This was the apostle Paul speaking.)
Romans 1:24, ITim.1:10
As for the rich man, often the rich concern themselves with who is after their riches. I believe covetousness is the problem here. They have it and intend to keep all of it instead of being generous and doing good works. All are suppose to give on the first day of the week as God has prospered him. I Cor. 16:2
So, being rich in itself is not sin. It's the way he uses those riches and the condition of his heart.
guest

United States

#15 Jan 21, 2013
The Dude wrote:
God does not change his mind, Malachi.
This divide the law stuff is made up by Christians who find living the word too difficult when it does not suit them.
The law is the law. Either you live the word to its letter or you are damned.
Cry all you want about the old law not counting, its in the book, God said it, and God does not change, he knows the past, the present, and the future.
Not very many people will ever see paradise. I myself will not because it is impossible for me to live the full extent of the law.
Well keep trying and never give up because no one else can either. We just have to do the best we can and pull ourselves up and pray harder each time we fail. Failure and rough times bring us closer to God. When everything is great we live life with ease and get a little too comfortable. We all need to be reminded who is in charge and I don't think He is shy about reminding us.
Hmmm

United States

#16 Jan 21, 2013
People choose and pick what they want to believe out of the Bible. What you fell to realize man put the Bible together. The Church put what they wanted to in there and burned or left out what they didnt want you to believe. That way you wouldnt want to think or believe in want they couldnt control. As far as a gay going hell. Thats just what ingorant people say who has been taught all there lives just like setting to close to the Tv will make you blind. If you are gay and have God in your heart and do what he ask he will say job well done. I dont think the Bible says anywhere that if your gay your going to hell. Old or new. It warns against certain sins but doesnt say gays are going to hell
Guest

United States

#17 Jan 21, 2013
Noah wrote:
Read John 3:16 you dummies...if you want to find out how to get "into" heaven instead of how to "not" get into heaven.
There's a million ways to not get there but only one way for every living soul to get there!!! man, woman, gay, straight, sideways, black, white, or green, crook, honest or whatever..it's really simple unless your brain is bible fried.
Quit thumpin your good book and try to find some common sense because you'll not find a Church of Christ section, Baptist, Catholic, or any other denomination assigned quarters inside the gate and thank god your goofy way of thinking won't come with you!!! otherwise you'd never get in.
So you take just that part and no more? Humm, do that then go on and do whatever you want? That is like wallowing with the hogs and coming in the house, asking what should you do to get clean and I hand you a washcloth but then you have no water , towel, or soap. You have a start but not all the steps to being clean.
There is more to it and if you are interested I'll tell you.
Guest

United States

#18 Jan 21, 2013
Guest wrote:
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Do you still condemn those who word on Sundays? The Bible says to kill people who do that. It also says to kill anyone who professes to be a witch. It also says that it is an abomination to wear blended fabrics, as well as to eat shellfish, or for a man who is missing one or more testicle to step foot in a Church. Do you still condem those actions? Or just gays?
Old Testament.
AGAIN, you must watch where you read, to whom it's being read and who does the speaking.
Guest

United States

#19 Jan 21, 2013
guest wrote:
I can't give Scriptures right now but Jesus said he did not come to change the laws of God. Also, the bible says we are to follow the laws of the land unless they go against Gods instructions.
Exactly. Gods law, what's the expression; trumps mans law? First and foremost we go by God's law. That is the problem employers are having when the government says we have they have to pay for the morning after pill for employees. To the Christian it goes against Gods law of taking life. We have the same problem with our tax dollars paying for abortion. It's killing. A transgression of Gods law.
Guest

United States

#20 Jan 21, 2013
The Dude wrote:
God does not change his mind, Malachi.
This divide the law stuff is made up by Christians who find living the word too difficult when it does not suit them.
The law is the law. Either you live the word to its letter or you are damned.
Cry all you want about the old law not counting, its in the book, God said it, and God does not change, he knows the past, the present, and the future.
Not very many people will ever see paradise. I myself will not because it is impossible for me to live the full extent of the law.
God doesn't change but the way he deals with His children does.
The road to heaven is narrow but the road to destruction is wide.
As far as not being able to live the full extent; no one is perfect. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God but that doest mean we don't try! Where we fail when we try here Gods grace comes in.

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