Letters to Grover Norquist

Letters to Grover Norquist

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Cathouse Mouse

#1 Nov 26, 2012
Grover Norquist is only a few weeks away from disappearing off the face of Earth - politically speaking. High ranking members of the GOP has decided to join Team America and forgo their silly pledge thingy in order to get our country moving again.

That's called "progress".

If you'd like to write something of a goodbye mesage to Grover Norquist, you can do so here and I will inevitably combine them all (or most of them) into a letter and send it to him addressed from the Paragould Topix Posters.
guest

United States

#2 Nov 27, 2012
The promise wasn't made to Norquist, it was made to the voters.

I wonder how someone would feel if their spouse suddenly declared that the promises made on their wedding day were nothing but a "silly pledge thingy".

Honorable people of character keep their word.
GUEST

Bellevue, WA

#3 Nov 27, 2012
guest wrote:
The promise wasn't made to Norquist, it was made to the voters.
I wonder how someone would feel if their spouse suddenly declared that the promises made on their wedding day were nothing but a "silly pledge thingy".
Honorable people of character keep their word.
Stfu jerk mouse.
Guest

Rogers, AR

#5 Nov 27, 2012
guest wrote:
The promise wasn't made to Norquist, it was made to the voters.
I wonder how someone would feel if their spouse suddenly declared that the promises made on their wedding day were nothing but a "silly pledge thingy".
Honorable people of character keep their word.
GOP has no Honor!!.
guest

Oklahoma City, OK

#6 Nov 28, 2012
Yeah, tell him he is being removed along with the rest of the GOP. 4 years and two elections it will be a one party system. There will be no room for republicans who want to suddenly reverse directions and try to move left of the center. Their die is cast, they will live as they are told how to live!
guest

United States

#7 Nov 28, 2012
guest wrote:
There will be no room for republicans who want to suddenly reverse directions and try to move left of the center.
I agree. Republicans need to reflect on the conservative principles that gave them a landslide victory in 2010 and the weak middle of the road stance that cost them losses in 2012.
guest

Paragould, AR

#8 Nov 28, 2012
guest wrote:
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I agree. Republicans need to reflect on the conservative principles that gave them a landslide victory in 2010 and the weak middle of the road stance that cost them losses in 2012.
The country is no longer majority right of center. The last election proved it. The majority of Americans are worried about preserving The Affordable Healthcare Act, making sure the top 1% pay their fair share of the taxes, more money for education, pro choice for women, marriage equality, reducing the carbon footprint America is currently producing, and agenda 21. The failed policies of the previous administration is why America voted to keep Barack Obama.

The so called "battle ground states" are securely nestled in the Democrat fold. The next election will be a repeat of the last two with the exception of tje Democratic party gaining West Virginia and Indiana.
Guest

Paragould, AR

#9 Nov 28, 2012
guest wrote:
The promise wasn't made to Norquist, it was made to the voters.
I wonder how someone would feel if their spouse suddenly declared that the promises made on their wedding day were nothing but a "silly pledge thingy".
Honorable people of character keep their word.
Comparing the conservative tax-breaks-for-the-rich political pledge to Norquist to a wedding vow to ones spouse is hilariously pathetic.

You are loosing, and those tactics won't help you.
guest

United States

#10 Nov 28, 2012
guest wrote:
The country is no longer majority right of center. The last election proved it.
The pendulum of politics swings back and forth. Don't forget that just 2 years ago conservatives won sweeping victories at both the federal and state levels. Also, 30 states have Republican Governors.

In our state, once a Democrat stronghold, now has all 4 Congressmen Republicans and 1 of our 2 Senators is also Republican.
The majority of Americans are worried about preserving The Affordable Healthcare Act
Wrong. The majority of Americans have always opposed Obamacare. That was one of the main reasons so may liberals were bounced out of office in 2010, including Blanche Lincoln.
making sure the top 1% pay their fair share of the taxes
The top 1% already pay far, far more than their fair share. It's just that most people are too stupid to realize that top 1% is paying 37% of the federal income tax collected.
The failed policies of the previous administration is why America voted to keep Barack Obama.
That may have been true in 2008, but not in 2012. Obama was reelected because of the stupidity of the electorate. They believe the same lying bullshit that you posted, and are too stupid to realize it's nothing but lies.
The next election will be a repeat of the last two..
That doesn't make any sense. The election in 2010 was a smashing victory for Republicans. This year's election was a slim victory for Democrats.

Is your short term memory that bad?
guest

United States

#11 Nov 28, 2012
Guest wrote:
Comparing the conservative tax-breaks-for-the-rich political pledge to Norquist to a wedding vow to ones spouse is hilariously pathetic.
You are loosing, and those tactics won't help you.
A promise is a promise. If a man won't keep his word, he lacks the honor and character to represent the people of our state and country.

As I said before, the pledge wasn't made to Norquist, it was a promise to the voters. Many who took the pledge used it in their campaigns and because of it won their elections. To go back on the pledge means they lied to the voters.

Voters don't like being lied to, unless their Democrats and too stupid to figure out that they've been lied to. The GOP liars will be thrown out of office next time they face the voters.
guest

Oklahoma City, OK

#12 Nov 29, 2012
guest wrote:
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The pendulum of politics swings back and forth. Don't forget that just 2 years ago conservatives won sweeping victories at both the federal and state levels. Also, 30 states have Republican Governors.
In our state, once a Democrat stronghold, now has all 4 Congressmen Republicans and 1 of our 2 Senators is also Republican.
<quoted text>
Wrong. The majority of Americans have always opposed Obamacare. That was one of the main reasons so may liberals were bounced out of office in 2010, including Blanche Lincoln.
<quoted text>
The top 1% already pay far, far more than their fair share. It's just that most people are too stupid to realize that top 1% is paying 37% of the federal income tax collected.
<quoted text>
That may have been true in 2008, but not in 2012. Obama was reelected because of the stupidity of the electorate. They believe the same lying bullshit that you posted, and are too stupid to realize it's nothing but lies.
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That doesn't make any sense. The election in 2010 was a smashing victory for Republicans. This year's election was a slim victory for Democrats.
Is your short term memory that bad?
Who won the 2012 presidential election? Who won by popular and electoral college victory? Will we see president romney sworn into office next year? As I said, America is majority left of center. Learn it, live it, love it

The republican party is bailing water. You are going to see roughly 1/4 to a 1/3 move left of center. Your goi g to see them throw the tea party and several sacred cow ideals under the bus. Learn it, live it, love it.
guest

United States

#13 Nov 29, 2012
guest wrote:
Who won the 2012 presidential election? Who won by popular and electoral college victory?
Of course Obama won the presidential election, but that doens't equal a majority of America left of center. It was a relatively slim margin of victory of those who voted.

One could say that Republicans winning a huge majority in the House means America is majority right of center, and they can also point to 30 out of 50 states being led by Republican Governors, or that a majority of state Legislatures are controlled by Republicans, etc.
The republican party is bailing water. You are going to see roughly 1/4 to a 1/3 move left of center. Your goi g to see them throw the tea party and several sacred cow ideals under the bus. Learn it, live it, love it.
There may indeed be some rinos showing their true colors. In fact, we're already seeing it. But don't underestimate the power of conservatives. They'll make their voices known again in 2014 by throwing the phony conservatives out of office.

Liberal socialist policies are just unsustainable. Smart people recognize that fact, including those of us here in Arkansas. Don't forget that we voted for Romney along with 4 GOP Congressmen.

Libtards like you would be happier in wacko leftist states like New York or California. Why don't you move there and pay enormous taxes to fund the liberal social agenda you support?
Southern Patriot

Kennett, MO

#14 Nov 29, 2012
I would think that making that pledge to Norquist would be considered treason! Congress people take a oath to work for the people that voted for them. When they take Norquist's pledge to help the rich and screw the working people,that's breaking that oath of office.

I'm thankful this country saw through the Fox news,Tea Party scheme and Republican smoke and mirrors and will continue to move forward for 4 more years!
The Koch brothers spent millions to deceive America and buy the election but it didn't work.
guest

Paragould, AR

#15 Nov 29, 2012
guest wrote:
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Of course Obama won the presidential election, but that doens't equal a majority of America left of center. It was a relatively slim margin of victory of those who voted.
One could say that Republicans winning a huge majority in the House means America is majority right of center, and they can also point to 30 out of 50 states being led by Republican Governors, or that a majority of state Legislatures are controlled by Republicans, etc.
<quoted text>
There may indeed be some rinos showing their true colors. In fact, we're already seeing it. But don't underestimate the power of conservatives. They'll make their voices known again in 2014 by throwing the phony conservatives out of office.
Liberal socialist policies are just unsustainable. Smart people recognize that fact, including those of us here in Arkansas. Don't forget that we voted for Romney along with 4 GOP Congressmen.
Libtards like you would be happier in wacko leftist states like New York or California. Why don't you move there and pay enormous taxes to fund the liberal social agenda you support?
Libtard? Coming from a teabagger I should have guessed. Btw, GOP lost one in the house and choked by not taking the senate like they was supposed to, just like the presidency. Face it. The demographics have changed. It is pretty much everybody against white middle aged midwest america. Your permanently outnumbered and losing ground everyday. I have decided to stay right here. I like it here, you move.
Guest

Paragould, AR

#16 Nov 29, 2012
guest wrote:
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I agree. Republicans need to reflect on the conservative principles that gave them a landslide victory in 2010 and the weak middle of the road stance that cost them losses in 2012.
There were different reasons for those victories and losses, however I hope that Republicans don't learn their lesson and take your advice and run on even more extreme right-wing platforms, as that will all but assure Democratic gains and victories.
Guest

Paragould, AR

#17 Nov 29, 2012
guest wrote:
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A promise is a promise.
That's like saying "killing is killing" when talking about killing humans and killing chickens.

A political tax-cuts-for-the-rich pledge to Grover Norquist isn't the same as wedding vows to be faithful, and breaking that pledge certainly isn't just like breaking those vows.

Desperate are you?
Guest

Paragould, AR

#18 Nov 29, 2012
Liberal ideas won in this election of ideas.

We won the Presidency with the polular vote and a landslide of electorial votes.

We gained seats in the House and the Senate.
Guest

Paragould, AR

#19 Nov 29, 2012
guest wrote:
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If a man won't keep his word, he lacks the honor and character to represent the people of our state and country.
If a person won't change their position with experience and facts as reason leads them, as with many political candidates before and after they take office, then he or she lacks the honor and character to represent the people of our state and country.
guest

United States

#20 Nov 30, 2012
Southern Patriot wrote:
I would think that making that pledge to Norquist would be considered treason! Congress people take a oath to work for the people that voted for them.
The pledge was not made to Norquist, it was made to the voters who elected Congressman and Senators to office, those very people they work for.
When they take Norquist's pledge to help the rich and screw the working people,that's breaking that oath of office.
No one has made such a pledge. Many conservatives promised not to raise taxes because they realize that government already taxes people far too much, and that increased taxation stifles economic growth.

Many of those who took the pledge were elected for that very reason. If they renege on their pledge, they prove themselves to be liars and will be tossed out of office the next time they face the voters. It's just that simple.
guest

United States

#21 Nov 30, 2012
Guest wrote:
A political tax-cuts-for-the-rich pledge to Grover Norquist isn't the same as wedding vows to be faithful, and breaking that pledge certainly isn't just like breaking those vows.
Again, the pledge wasn't made to Norquist, it was made to the voters who elected many of those Congressmen and Senators to office because they made that pledge.

Neither was the pledge for "tax cuts for the rich". The pledge was not to raise taxes on anyone.

And yeah, being unfaithful to your promises to the voters is every bit the same as being unfaithful to your wedding vows. Disloyalty and lies are disloyalty and lies.

You have to ask yourself why Obama is so driven by his lust to pile even more taxes on those who already pay a grossly unfair amount that he is willing to throw 98% of the people under the bus.

You dummies think he cares about the middle class, yet he is perfectly willing to vastly increase taxes on them just so he can increase taxes a little bit on the wealthy.

I hope conservatives call his bluff and tell him to eat shit. If he wants to raise taxes the most on the poorest taxpayers by allowing the current tax rates to return to 2001 levels, let him do it. Then maybe you dipshits will finally see what you've been supporting all along.

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