teachers with no compassion

teachers with no compassion

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parent

Paragould, AR

#1 Feb 3, 2013
You do not believe in second chances for my child, but if it was your child you can bet he would get a second chance. Your principal is supporting you but says she does not agree with you, but must support her teachers. She did say that one of these days you the teacher will need a second chance and she will remind you that you would not give a child a second chance. All we ask as parents is that you give are children the same consideration you would give your own. We know you don't treat your children this way because we see them running around out of control and ignoring your efforts to control them, but you sure can control mine becasue you really do not care about him.
guest

Ravenden, AR

#2 Feb 3, 2013
parent wrote:
You do not believe in second chances for my child, but if it was your child you can bet he would get a second chance. Your principal is supporting you but says she does not agree with you, but must support her teachers. She did say that one of these days you the teacher will need a second chance and she will remind you that you would not give a child a second chance. All we ask as parents is that you give are children the same consideration you would give your own. We know you don't treat your children this way because we see them running around out of control and ignoring your efforts to control them, but you sure can control mine becasue you really do not care about him.
must be from tech
Guest

Oklahoma City, OK

#3 Feb 3, 2013
I did not understand what person was trying to say. Understanding that they are mad about something but post make it hard to know what we are suppose to get out of it
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#4 Feb 3, 2013
Must be disgruntled. Kind of crap for a principal to talk like that behind a co workers back to a parent.
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#5 Feb 3, 2013
Don't know your situation. But if you haven't seen the kind of sh!t teachers have to put up with from your little angels it is darn near ridiculous. Little Johnny can act how he wants to and maybe get suspended but his little a$$ will be back in school a few days later ready to create more chaos. Is it fair for the other kids in the class to be interrupted by these kids. In case you do not understand teachers are not extremely well compensated for what they do across the board. They have to not only graduate from an accredited university they also have to pass a series of tests to be certified. Not unlike people in the medical field who make far more money.Teachers are also a government employee so to speak and yet they pay the highest insurance premiums making there check even smaller. In spite of all this they follow their calling to educate the masses as well as possible. So if little Johnny wants to disrupt a class then hell yes his behind is going out the door so the other 20 some odd children can have a chance to get it right. The world still needs people out there that can dig ditches. Its time the teachers were given some power back in their classroom and not have to fear what they say or do will instantly result in a parent coming up to the school demanding their job because they put little johnny in check. Like I say I don't know your situation but I hope it doesn't fall along these lines.
Sokar

Sikeston, MO

#6 Feb 3, 2013
Being a teacher for the last 2 years. The student probably had multiple "chances", they knew the rules and still did whatever. Come sit in that chair and stand in front of those classes (especially Tech I taught there for a semester). You will not believe the blatant disregard for rules day in and day out and the attitude (that is home grown)teachers get from students. Can't send them out everyday, not like most care anyway.
Sam Hill

Oklahoma City, OK

#7 Feb 3, 2013
Guest wrote:
Must be disgruntled. Kind of crap for a principal to talk like that behind a co workers back to a parent.
Its very unprofessional for the principal to talk that way to the parent. She should have gathered information then informed the teacher. After that a meeting should take place with the student or parent.

I was a teacher and I had a principal who always took the side of the parent or child. She would blindside a teacher by calling them in and telling them the grievance in front of the child or teacher without any information given beforehand.

I would live to know if its the same one.
Guest

Jonesboro, AR

#8 Feb 4, 2013
Sokar wrote:
Being a teacher for the last 2 years. The student probably had multiple "chances", they knew the rules and still did whatever. Come sit in that chair and stand in front of those classes (especially Tech I taught there for a semester). You will not believe the blatant disregard for rules day in and day out and the attitude (that is home grown)teachers get from students. Can't send them out everyday, not like most care anyway.
The attitude is home grown. The kids hear their parents say whatever and pack it up and take it to school. Or the child has been in trouble before and has discovered that the punishment won't be severe. I hate to hear the words wait until my mom and dad find out about this. Its never wait til they find out I'm going to be in trouble. It is always when they find out they are gonna come up here and try to gt you dismissed. Mom and dad need to start busting your little behind and giving you boundaries to stay in so you know how to behave not only in school but in society as well. Too many parents think we are supposed to baby sit their kids not educate them. Too many parents act as bad or worse than their kids. What the hell happened to adults acting like adults and children knowing their place. The line has been blurred. The school system will never improve until some of these things are handled. If a principal will not stand behind their teachers then that worthless piece of crap needs to go. They are admins for a reason and too often the only reason is higher pay and not having to be in a classroom with those same kids. Parents want to come to the school and complain fine but it needs to be conducted professionally at least by the schools side. If a principal blind sided me like that I would be on the phone with the super in a heart beat, if that didn't resolve it we pay aea and nea dues for a reason.
guest

Paragould, AR

#9 Feb 4, 2013
Just about everybody has been to school and they have all had teachers even the teacher went to school and had teachers, now tell me how many of those teachers did the teachers like? One maybe?
Sandman

United States

#10 Feb 4, 2013
I love teachers with compassion!! Especially the male teachers that promised me that it would only hurt for a couple minutes :)
guest

Jonesboro, AR

#11 Feb 4, 2013
That is the problem right there- parents teach their kids that they deserve second, third, fourth chances. In the REAL WORLD, you don't get that. It has to start somewhere, so why should teachers allow students to have all these second opportunities?!
Example: If you don't pay your electric bill, it gets shut off. If you don't pay your car payment, you get your car repossesed! You don't get second chances in the real world!
I am sick to death of kids AND PARENTS feeling like teachers OWE them something. Teachers present the material and then it's up to the student to comprehend it and go with it from there. It is not the teacher's job to RAISE YOUR CHILD!!! If your child needs help, then it comes at home. Teachers can't spend an hour a day with all the students they have. No learning would ever take place. Parents must help his/her child at home. Problem these days is the parents are too stupid to be able to help their own child!
guest

Paragould, AR

#12 Feb 4, 2013
Guest wrote:
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The attitude is home grown. The kids hear their parents say whatever and pack it up and take it to school. Or the child has been in trouble before and has discovered that the punishment won't be severe. I hate to hear the words wait until my mom and dad find out about this. Its never wait til they find out I'm going to be in trouble. It is always when they find out they are gonna come up here and try to gt you dismissed. Mom and dad need to start busting your little behind and giving you boundaries to stay in so you know how to behave not only in school but in society as well. Too many parents think we are supposed to baby sit their kids not educate them. Too many parents act as bad or worse than their kids. What the hell happened to adults acting like adults and children knowing their place. The line has been blurred. The school system will never improve until some of these things are handled. If a principal will not stand behind their teachers then that worthless piece of crap needs to go. They are admins for a reason and too often the only reason is higher pay and not having to be in a classroom with those same kids. Parents want to come to the school and complain fine but it needs to be conducted professionally at least by the schools side. If a principal blind sided me like that I would be on the phone with the super in a heart beat, if that didn't resolve it we pay aea and nea dues for a reason.
I hope you are not my children's teacher.
guest

Ravenden, AR

#13 Feb 4, 2013
Guest wrote:
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The attitude is home grown. The kids hear their parents say whatever and pack it up and take it to school. Or the child has been in trouble before and has discovered that the punishment won't be severe. I hate to hear the words wait until my mom and dad find out about this. Its never wait til they find out I'm going to be in trouble. It is always when they find out they are gonna come up here and try to gt you dismissed. Mom and dad need to start busting your little behind and giving you boundaries to stay in so you know how to behave not only in school but in society as well. Too many parents think we are supposed to baby sit their kids not educate them. Too many parents act as bad or worse than their kids. What the hell happened to adults acting like adults and children knowing their place. The line has been blurred. The school system will never improve until some of these things are handled. If a principal will not stand behind their teachers then that worthless piece of crap needs to go. They are admins for a reason and too often the only reason is higher pay and not having to be in a classroom with those same kids. Parents want to come to the school and complain fine but it needs to be conducted professionally at least by the schools side. If a principal blind sided me like that I would be on the phone with the super in a heart beat, if that didn't resolve it we pay aea and nea dues for a reason.
you are obviously not a teacher in Arkansas. no NEA here
Sam Hill

Oklahoma City, OK

#14 Feb 4, 2013
Guest wrote:
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The attitude is home grown. The kids hear their parents say whatever and pack it up and take it to school. Or the child has been in trouble before and has discovered that the punishment won't be severe. I hate to hear the words wait until my mom and dad find out about this. Its never wait til they find out I'm going to be in trouble. It is always when they find out they are gonna come up here and try to gt you dismissed. Mom and dad need to start busting your little behind and giving you boundaries to stay in so you know how to behave not only in school but in society as well. Too many parents think we are supposed to baby sit their kids not educate them. Too many parents act as bad or worse than their kids. What the hell happened to adults acting like adults and children knowing their place. The line has been blurred. The school system will never improve until some of these things are handled. If a principal will not stand behind their teachers then that worthless piece of crap needs to go. They are admins for a reason and too often the only reason is higher pay and not having to be in a classroom with those same kids. Parents want to come to the school and complain fine but it needs to be conducted professionally at least by the schools side. If a principal blind sided me like that I would be on the phone with the super in a heart beat, if that didn't resolve it we pay aea and nea dues for a reason.
I was in the Paragould district.
I have called in the NEA before and believe me administrators don't want to deal with them.
Many teachers act like they are so afraid for their jobs that they take anything from administrators. Then when you act like you have a spine attached to a brain you are labeled a trouble maker.

In my case the principal always took the pupil's word over mine. However, I always got good job reviews from her. I think a lot of it was a show for the parents. She could have covered both bases in a fairer professional manner. It was like an " I got cha" moment with her.
Guest

Oklahoma City, OK

#15 Feb 4, 2013
Sandman wrote:
I love teachers with compassion!! Especially the male teachers that promised me that it would only hurt for a couple minutes :)
I liked all my teachers except for one.
Guest

Oklahoma City, OK

#16 Feb 4, 2013
guest wrote:
That is the problem right there- parents teach their kids that they deserve second, third, fourth chances. In the REAL WORLD, you don't get that. It has to start somewhere, so why should teachers allow students to have all these second opportunities?!
Example: If you don't pay your electric bill, it gets shut off. If you don't pay your car payment, you get your car repossesed! You don't get second chances in the real world!
I am sick to death of kids AND PARENTS feeling like teachers OWE them something. Teachers present the material and then it's up to the student to comprehend it and go with it from there. It is not the teacher's job to RAISE YOUR CHILD!!! If your child needs help, then it comes at home. Teachers can't spend an hour a day with all the students they have. No learning would ever take place. Parents must help his/her child at home. Problem these days is the parents are too stupid to be able to help their own child!
My grand kids get a lot of homework. Their parents spend nearly every night helping them and both of them work.
Homework gets done regardless. Mom and dad drop everything to help them, too. And their diligence is paying. The children get excellent grades.

I was a teacher and I know that a teacher does not have the time to give students enough time for those having real trouble. Rarely do they have much time at all to sit down and give the attention a student might need. That's just the way it is.
Parents need to see that homework is done and help the child and if you can't find someone who can like I did for my kids and my son is doing for his daughter. It may be another older student who can help or family member. The thing is get involved..
food4thought

Horseshoe Bend, AR

#17 Feb 4, 2013
My perspective:

Teachers are underpaid and under-appreciated. They are the first criticized and thrown under the bus by politicians, yet education is often prone to budget cuts. Schools are charged with more and more troubled children with less funding and less resources every year. These are just facts.

This underpaid under-appreciated teacher is then given a ridiculous amount of required material that people who have never taught say must be taught within that school year, regardless if those children are capable or at that level. No Child Left Behind, right? That really means No Teacher Left Standing.

On top of consistent criticism and lack of pay, they have the worst benefits imaginable. I know for a fact that for family medical coverage, the mid-range not the "gold" package - is $600+ a month for a teacher. Very little is contributed by the districts bc they cannot afford it. Retirement? A joke.

As someone stated, they are required an additional 60 hours of "professional training" per year - like a doctor - and AR requires more training hours than any other state.

In the classroom, they meet students on probation, covered in tattoos and piercings, wearing ankle monitors right along with bad attitudes. They love to remark how stupid education is - something parroted from home most often. The parents who do not come to parent-teacher conferences are the ones who need to most, but are the first in the office to throw a fit if their child is treated "unfairly." Let me clue you in - kids always say adults are unfair. Parents are "unfair" when they don't get their way. I guess teachers should show up at their houses and raise hell when kids come to school talking about those unfair parents, too.

There are a lot of great kids and their are a lot of kids with a lot of problems. Most of them stem from their parents or lack of parenting. Parents want to be friends, be cool, and take every word from a child as gospel. When you are permissive and give your child everything, you handicap them. You are doing that for YOU not for them, bc it makes YOU feel good. Kids go to school with no concept of boundaries, responsibility, or motivation. They have no goals. The 10% of those "problem" children take up 99% of a teacher's time.

Just like the criminals are the first to bash cops, those with those "problem" kids are the first to bash teachers. I feel sorry for those children and hope they can overcome their parents' mistakes.
Pumpkin

United States

#18 Feb 4, 2013
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must be. from tech
LOL! I was actually thinking must be Tech after reading the 1st couple of posts. Some of the things my kids tell me about their teachers at Tech leaves me speechless. And yes I discipline my kids & teach them respect. My kids get good marks in conduct. My 8 year old absolutely hates his teacher & has always liked his teachers & school until this year.I wish there was a hidden camera in Charlotte Rogers class.
Guest

Paragould, AR

#19 Feb 4, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>I hope you are not my children's teacher.
Amen! A principal needs to be able o look at both sides!
tech nation

United States

#20 Feb 4, 2013
Must be a thug parent at the thug school, paragould high school.

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