“Children addicted adults sleep”

Since: Jan 08

Willows

#389 Jan 18, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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You know it used to be quite common for people to take responsibility for their own actions. Are you in favour of that concept?
I raised my kids, I took responsibility for my actions. I adopted a child whose father didn't take that responsibility. I helped raise 3 step-children whose father was satisfied being the every other weekend father, when he felt like it.
A few years ago blacks could not vote, women were 2nd class citizens and the KKK was fully active and the elederly when they got sick they died. Who took the responsiblity for those things that endured for years. No one.
Good for you for stepping up, but for everyone of you there are millions who are only looking out for themselves or you or anyone else would never want them raising a child.
This thread is about Gun Control mainly because 20 children were needlesly slaughtered. The right pro-gun activist with their say anything to make a point agenda has drug in the comparison of abortions rights that most liberals support trying to imply there is a connection and that if absurd at best.

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#390 Jan 18, 2013
Meth Addiction Prevention wrote:
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A few years ago blacks could not vote, women were 2nd class citizens and the KKK was fully active and the elederly when they got sick they died. Who took the responsiblity for those things that endured for years. No one.
Good for you for stepping up, but for everyone of you there are millions who are only looking out for themselves or you or anyone else would never want them raising a child.
This thread is about Gun Control mainly because 20 children were needlesly slaughtered. The right pro-gun activist with their say anything to make a point agenda has drug in the comparison of abortions rights that most liberals support trying to imply there is a connection and that if absurd at best.
The Leftists that are anti 2nd amendment are politicizing the horrific slaughter of 20 children to try and strip Americans of their right to defend themselves plus the freedom to defend ourselves reinforced by the 2nd amendment. The Leftists claim that there concerns are for the children, the abortion issue is brought out because it seems that if pro abortion Leftists really cared about children they would not be so caviler when it comes to rights of the unborn.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#391 Jan 19, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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The Leftists that are anti 2nd amendment are politicizing the horrific slaughter of 20 children to try and strip Americans of their right to defend themselves plus the freedom to defend ourselves reinforced by the 2nd amendment. The Leftists claim that there concerns are for the children, the abortion issue is brought out because it seems that if pro abortion Leftists really cared about children they would not be so caviler when it comes to rights of the unborn.
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Yours is the kind of baloney only conservatives are capable of, SAM ....

"Leftists," as you call them, are not "anti 2nd amendment" as you claim....they are against those who abuse the rights granted by the second amendment who in turn are themselves being manipulated by those who use the second amendment for nothing but pecuniary gains..

Today, the average hunting rifle is probably more powerful than all the muskets in Washington's army combined, which could not hit the side of a barn and took almost a minute and a half to reload each...

Hell, a single .223 caliber Bushmaster rifle in British hands, the type of weapon used to massacre first graders in Sandy Oak, would have changed the course of the entire revolutionary war...

Therefore, It is unthinkable the founders intended for each individual today to carry weapons with more firepower than the entire armies of their days...

The second amendment must definitely be revisited by our lawmakers because it is an anachronistic tool used by arms manufacturers and their lobbyists to manipulate impressionable fools....
The Infantile left Winged

United States

#392 Jan 19, 2013
Meth Addiction Prevention wrote:
So why is it OK to tell a woman if she can or can not have an abortion.
Because it is murdering an innocent child!!! Duuuuhhhh
The Infantile left Winged

United States

#393 Jan 19, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Amazing, isn't it...??
Conservative wing nuts want to bring unwanted children into the world and then they totally wash their hands of them, and they don't even blink when some nut blows the little children away with what some anti abortion conservatives here refer to as "pop guns"
You are unwanted... can we abort you? And totally wash our hands of your worthless and pitiful ass???

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#394 Jan 19, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Yours is the kind of baloney only conservatives are capable of, SAM ....
"Leftists," as you call them, are not "anti 2nd amendment" as you claim....they are against those who abuse the rights granted by the second amendment who in turn are themselves being manipulated by those who use the second amendment for nothing but pecuniary gains..
I have read many Leftists who state that the 2nd amendment is antiquated, that it is not required in this modern era. So on that point you are wrong.
How are law abiding citizens abusing the 2nd amendment?
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Today, the average hunting rifle is probably more powerful than all the muskets in Washington's army combined, which could not hit the side of a barn and took almost a minute and a half to reload each...
Hell, a single .223 caliber Bushmaster rifle in British hands, the type of weapon used to massacre first graders in Sandy Oak, would have changed the course of the entire revolutionary war...
One of the biggest causes of death in all wars up to WWII was disease. Typhus carried by body lice wiped out huge numbers in the Civil War as well as other wars around the globe. If modern pesticides and the link between body lice and typhus had been known these would have changed the outcome of the war much more than a Bushmaster rifle.
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Therefore, It is unthinkable the founders intended for each individual today to carry weapons with more firepower than the entire armies of their days...
The second amendment must definitely be revisited by our lawmakers because it is an anachronistic tool used by arms manufacturers and their lobbyists to manipulate impressionable fools....
You are an anti-2nd amendment Leftist, since you want it changed. The 2nd amendment merely guarantees our right to protect ourselves by having arms.

GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#395 Jan 19, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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Because it is murdering an innocent child!!! Duuuuhhhh
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But it is no big deal if the same innocent child gets slaughtered in first grade as long as ignorant idiots like you get to play with your "pop guns...." DUH!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#396 Jan 19, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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I have read many Leftists who state that the 2nd amendment is antiquated, that it is not required in this modern era. So on that point you are wrong.
How are law abiding citizens abusing the 2nd amendment?
Wether I am right or wrong that is something you will have to take up with Thomas Jefferson, he was the one who said everything in the Constitution was fair game for change to keep up with the times...

Citizens are abusing the second amendment by purchasing far more firepower than what is required for hunting and self defense and by not giving their fire arms the respect they deserve, and that is just for starters...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#397 Jan 19, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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You are an anti-2nd amendment Leftist, since you want it changed. The 2nd amendment merely guarantees our right to protect ourselves by having arms.
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Wrong....

The second amendment was intended for self defense and for hunting, it was not intended for idiots to run around with assault rifles and other guns with 100 round magazines and shooting down fellow citizens to the tune of 12,000 per year and it certainly was not intended to slaughter first graders...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#398 Jan 19, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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One of the biggest causes of death in all wars up to WWII was disease. Typhus carried by body lice wiped out huge numbers in the Civil War as well as other wars around the globe. If modern pesticides and the link between body lice and typhus had been known these would have changed the outcome of the war much more than a Bushmaster rifle.
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That is precisely the reason why our "bad government" mandates vaccinations and establishes health standards, that way conservative and other fanatics have more and healthier people to gun down with Bushmasters and other overpowered weapons...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#399 Jan 19, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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You are unwanted... can we abort you? And totally wash our hands of your worthless and pitiful ass???
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You can always try...
The Infantile left Winged

United States

#400 Jan 19, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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But it is no big deal if the same innocent child gets slaughtered in first grade as long as ignorant idiots like you get to play with your "pop guns...." DUH!
It is pitiful how your empty head cannot equate the difference in numbers between a psycho liberal running into a school and murdering, so far up to 20 children, and your abortion mills murdering thousands of innocent children every single day!

You and your ilk on here nicoliar, are proof positive that there is great evil in this world!
But taking guns from innocent people will have NO affect on the occasional liberal going nuts in a grammar school and murdering children! There are hundreds of other ways besides guns for you liberals to get the job of evil done in this world!
Damn man... you liberals spread evil all of the time with complex legislation and laws all of the time!!!
And, you liberals are trying once again with negating the second amendment!!!
You dopes think you're really sly! But we know what you're up too and it ain't gonna happen this time!
Besides, like I said before, technology has now come to a point that you liberals and all of your laws can never even come close to keeping up!
The Infantile left Winged

United States

#401 Jan 19, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Wether I am right or wrong that is something you will have to take up with Thomas Jefferson, he was the one who said everything in the Constitution was fair game for change to keep up with the times...
Citizens are abusing the second amendment by purchasing far more firepower than what is required for hunting and self defense and by not giving their fire arms the respect they deserve, and that is just for starters...
No quote link to support this lie??? LOL

And who are you to determine what is " purchasing far more firepower than what is required for hunting and self defense".
For cryin' out loud man... you can't even wipe your own pitiful little skinny ass without Govt. telling you when and how!!! ROTFLMAO
The Infantile left Winged

United States

#402 Jan 19, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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But it is no big deal if the same innocent child gets slaughtered in first grade as long as ignorant idiots like you get to play with your "pop guns...." DUH!
Who ever said anything like that?
That stupid attempt of spin was, well... really stupid! But we expect nothing more than really stupid from you! LMAO
You pathetic little mental midget!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#403 Jan 19, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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It is pitiful how your empty head cannot equate the difference in numbers between a psycho liberal running into a school and murdering, so far up to 20 children, and your abortion mills murdering thousands of innocent children every single day!
You and your ilk on here nicoliar, are proof positive that there is great evil in this world!
But taking guns from innocent people will have NO affect on the occasional liberal going nuts in a grammar school and murdering children! There are hundreds of other ways besides guns for you liberals to get the job of evil done in this world!
Damn man... you liberals spread evil all of the time with complex legislation and laws all of the time!!!
And, you liberals are trying once again with negating the second amendment!!!
You dopes think you're really sly! But we know what you're up too and it ain't gonna happen this time!
Besides, like I said before, technology has now come to a point that you liberals and all of your laws can never even come close to keeping up!
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It is mighty conservative of you to try and establish an equivalency between real, living, breathing and loved children with unwanted fetuses...

You are probably not aware of this, but abortion is by no means unique to the human race...abortion is prevalent trough all of nature, from plants to animals, and, unlike humans, plants and animals do not generally go killing each other for the hell of it like humans do...

As far as the rest of your rant... You should put your thinking hat on (if you can find it) and read some of what one of America's original liberals had to say about laws and the Constitution....

http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#404 Jan 19, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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No quote link to support this lie??? LOL
And who are you to determine what is " purchasing far more firepower than what is required for hunting and self defense".
For cryin' out loud man... you can't even wipe your own pitiful little skinny ass without Govt. telling you when and how!!! ROTFLMAO
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No lie...

Here, read some of what America's original liberal had to say about laws and the Constitution...

http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#405 Jan 19, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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Who ever said anything like that?
That stupid attempt of spin was, well... really stupid! But we expect nothing more than really stupid from you! LMAO
You pathetic little mental midget!
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Your conservative bosom buddy HERE IS ONE said that here on post #10

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/chico-ca/T4NT...
The Infantile left Winged

United States

#406 Jan 19, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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It is mighty conservative of you to try and establish an equivalency between real, living, breathing and loved children with unwanted fetuses...
You are probably not aware of this, but abortion is by no means unique to the human race...abortion is prevalent trough all of nature, from plants to animals, and, unlike humans, plants and animals do not generally go killing each other for the hell of it like humans do...
As far as the rest of your rant... You should put your thinking hat on (if you can find it) and read some of what one of America's original liberals had to say about laws and the Constitution....
http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/...
From your link!!!

"The real friends of the Constitution in its federal form, if they
wish it to be immortal, should be attentive, by amendments, to
make it keep pace with the advance of the age in science and
experience. Instead of this, the European governments have
resisted reformation, until the people, seeing no other resource,
undertake it themselves by force, their only weapon, and work it
out through blood, desolation and long-continued anarchy."
--Thomas Jefferson to Robert J. Garnett, 1824.

"I willingly acquiesce in the institutions of my country, perfect
or imperfect; and think it a duty to leave their modifications to
those who are to live under them, and are to participate of the
good or evil they may produce. The present generation has the
same right of self-government which the past one has exercised
for itself." --Thomas Jefferson to John Hampden Pleasants, 1824.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#407 Jan 19, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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From your link!!!
"The real friends of the Constitution in its federal form, if they
wish it to be immortal, should be attentive, by amendments, to
make it keep pace with the advance of the age in science and
experience. Instead of this, the European governments have
resisted reformation, until the people, seeing no other resource,
undertake it themselves by force, their only weapon, and work it
out through blood, desolation and long-continued anarchy."
--Thomas Jefferson to Robert J. Garnett, 1824.
"I willingly acquiesce in the institutions of my country, perfect
or imperfect; and think it a duty to leave their modifications to
those who are to live under them, and are to participate of the
good or evil they may produce. The present generation has the
same right of self-government which the past one has exercised
for itself." --Thomas Jefferson to John Hampden Pleasants, 1824.
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Yeap, two random quotes from my link...

http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/...

What do they mean to a genius like you....????

Let me guess, the first one tells you that everyone should be armed to the teeth.....Yes? LMAO
The Infantile left Winged

United States

#408 Jan 19, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Yeap, two random quotes from my link...
http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/...
What do they mean to a genius like you....????
Let me guess, the first one tells you that everyone should be armed to the teeth.....Yes? LMAO
No, they tell me that you are stupid as a stick! And as usual, you don't even read the links that you very seldom provide!!!
You pathetic little liberal dumbshit! LOL

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