“Facts”

Since: May 08

Villa De Alvarez, Mexico

#367 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
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Claiming something without being able to prove it just makes you sound crazy though.......Don't you get that?........Like the people claiming that Obama was not born in Hawaii but they can't prove it.
I proved it moron..........ROTFLMAO

I posted a link to everyone of your responses on the tubing thread..........LOL
As a matter of fact after I asked the question you only posted one more time on that thread as you knew I caught you in a lie.......

And your response was you already answered the question..........LOL

So tell us village liar.........How do you answer a question before I ask it?????

OOOPS caught in another lie..........LOL

Now should we talk about how you lied about teachers wages??????

Dozens of 8th grade students along with teachers combed thru every post of yours and read every link you posted and not one shows the wages compared to hours worked.........
Nor do they take into consideration the real values of the crazy benefits that only teachers get......

So you are proven a liar again..........LOL

Since: Sep 12

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#368 Dec 11, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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Dozens of 8th grade students along with teachers combed thru every post of yours and read every link you posted and not one shows the wages compared to hours worked.........
Is that statement a lie (probably) or the truth?

Either way isn't it embarrassing for you?

And you have been bragging about what a good school it is and then tell us that they let you come in and waste the students and teachers time in such a way?

Wow, little man, if you could only see the picture you paint of yourself the way the rest of us do........

Since: Sep 12

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#369 Dec 11, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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Nor do they take into consideration the real values of the crazy benefits that only teachers get......
Please list some of the "Crazy" benefits that "only teachers get". Don't list the ones lots of employees get, just the ones "only teachers get" and then explain how they are "crazy".
Local

Clearlake, CA

#370 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
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Please list some of the "Crazy" benefits that "only teachers get". Don't list the ones lots of employees get, just the ones "only teachers get" and then explain how they are "crazy".
How do you explain this:

"I can't think of anything else I'd rather do," said Ms. Pankow, 23, as she waited outside the principal's office at Pelham Memorial last week, among 619 people applying for one English position. "Which is a problem, because I might have to do something else."

Success Charter Network Founder and CEO Eva Moskowitz called the situation "heartbreaking."

Applications to charter schools have risen considerably, as have those to Teach for America. This year, 46,000 applied for 4,500 spots.

Teaching Positions Scarce Yet Sought After
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/20/job-...

People want those jobs because of the pay and benefits....and because after tenure, a teacher is basically guaranteed a job for life no matter how good or bad they are at what they do.
The resulting decline in the performance of public schools is a very large problem.
Reform is the answer, but the all powerful teacher unions are blocking reform.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Villa De Alvarez, Mexico

#371 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that statement a lie (probably) or the truth?
Either way isn't it embarrassing for you?
And you have been bragging about what a good school it is and then tell us that they let you come in and waste the students and teachers time in such a way?
Wow, little man, if you could only see the picture you paint of yourself the way the rest of us do........
Poor miserable troll was proven a liar so many times she is forced to revert back to childish schoolyard rants.......

Waste students time????

Wrong again..........It is a very valuable lesson on the perils of being a liberal..........

It was a lesson in telling the truth.......

It showed why no liberal should ever be taken for their word.....

It is called saving the world from liberalism one class at a time........

You would have to understand that most of these teachers are from the USA or Canada and sick and tired of you moronic liberals like you destroying the schools by over paying bad teachers and not rewarding the good teachers......
Local

Clearlake, CA

#372 Dec 11, 2012
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.....

Sometimes, you can't lead a jackass anywhere.

It just cracks me up that teacher union shills(like eyes) try to get away with talking about "helping the kids" when in fact, the teacher unions are the biggest obstacle standing in the way of "helping kids".

California Teachers Union Attempts to Block Progress on School Reforms
http://www.arounddublinblog.com/2011/06/calif ...

Teachers Unions Oppose Education Reform
http://teachersunionexposed.com/blocking.cfm

Union blocks bill on firing ‘predator’ teachers
http://www.joannejacobs.com/2012/08/union-blo ...

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Villa De Alvarez, Mexico

#373 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
<quoted text>
Please list some of the "Crazy" benefits that "only teachers get". Don't list the ones lots of employees get, just the ones "only teachers get" and then explain how they are "crazy".
I posted list of them dozens of times now..........Too bad you are too stupid to read......

I will be happy to repost them just as soon as you show us where you proved that Vern supported the ban on tubing..........

And after you post a link to a site that compares teachers wages to others by hours worked..........LOL

Waiting village liar.........Waiting.......... ROTFLMAO

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#374 Dec 11, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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I posted list of them dozens of times now...
Really, lets see that list of benefits only teachers get that are "crazy".

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Villa De Alvarez, Mexico

#375 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
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Really, lets see that list of benefits only teachers get that are "crazy".
I see you are still too stupid to read..........
.Nor even answer this question that most 8th grade students can.......
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I will be happy to repost them just as soon as you show us where you proved that Vern supported the ban on tubing..........

And after you post a link to a site that compares teachers wages to others by hours worked..........LOL

Waiting village liar.........Waiting.......... ROTFLMAO

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#376 Dec 11, 2012
Once a teacher is convicted of such a crime they can easily be fired and are fired as a matter of course.

However under current contracts, a teacher cannot be fired for being accused of something, it has to actually be proven. In the case of a criminal charge of course they cannot be in the classroom while facing such a charge so they are suspended with pay, until such time as they are convicted. Once convicted they are terminated.

The law you are referring to above, would make it so that a teacher could be fired if accused of a crime.....not just after it was proven. DO you think that is a good thing? If I were to go to your boss and claim that you were a pedophile, should he fire you because I said so, or should he wait until something is proven? If you work with kids, of course he would suspend you until the investigation is complete, but wouldn't you want him to keep paying you until the allegations were proved?

Why is this stuff so hard for you to understand?

Are you saying that teachers should be considered guilty until proven innocent little man?

Really?

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#377 Dec 11, 2012
Local wrote:
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.....
Sometimes, you can't lead a jackass anywhere.
It just cracks me up that teacher union shills(like eyes) try to get away with talking about "helping the kids" when in fact, the teacher unions are the biggest obstacle standing in the way of "helping kids".
California Teachers Union Attempts to Block Progress on School Reforms
Union blocks bill on firing ‘predator’ teachers
http://www.joannejacobs.com/2012/08/union-blo ...
Sorry the above post should have been a response to this.
Local

Clearlake, CA

#378 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
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Really, lets see that list of benefits only teachers get that are "crazy".
HIO and I have posted ALL of the info. that you are requesting.
Any casual reader can see that you are simply a troll trying to run us around.
It is your turn to provide SOME kind of evidence of what you say.

You are looking like a fool.
C'mon...put up or shut up.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Villa De Alvarez, Mexico

#379 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
Once a teacher is convicted of such a crime they can easily be fired and are fired as a matter of course.
However under current contracts, a teacher cannot be fired for being accused of something, it has to actually be proven. In the case of a criminal charge of course they cannot be in the classroom while facing such a charge so they are suspended with pay, until such time as they are convicted. Once convicted they are terminated.
The law you are referring to above, would make it so that a teacher could be fired if accused of a crime.....not just after it was proven. DO you think that is a good thing? If I were to go to your boss and claim that you were a pedophile, should he fire you because I said so, or should he wait until something is proven? If you work with kids, of course he would suspend you until the investigation is complete, but wouldn't you want him to keep paying you until the allegations were proved?
Why is this stuff so hard for you to understand?
Are you saying that teachers should be considered guilty until proven innocent little man?
Really?
Nice duck and dodge village liar..........LOL

tell us why you are too scared to admit you lied????

Or why cant you show us these links that nobody else can see???

Did you post them with your invisible ink?????
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Please tell us MICKEY where Vern supported the ban or disagreed with your statement that the ban was a bad idea..........
Waiting..........LOL

But there are more risks with these activities you mentioned. How much harm should come from tubing down a river with friends? Add several thousand and alcohol then you have a major problem. The big picture is a young life was wasted. He could have amounted to something or someone. Judging from the out-pouring of searched I'd say he was well liked. My heart goes out to his family.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#380 Dec 11, 2012
Local wrote:
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HIO and I have posted ALL of the info. that you are requesting.
Any casual reader can see that you are simply a troll trying to run us around.
It is your turn to provide SOME kind of evidence of what you say.
You are looking like a fool.
C'mon...put up or shut up.
If you cannot post a list of the benefits that "Only teachers get" (not employees in other fields) and demonstrate that those benefits are "crazy", you lose that point.

So far niether of you have done any such thing.
Local

Clearlake, CA

#381 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
Once a teacher is convicted of such a crime they can easily be fired and are fired as a matter of course.
However under current contracts, a teacher cannot be fired for being accused of something, it has to actually be proven. In the case of a criminal charge of course they cannot be in the classroom while facing such a charge so they are suspended with pay, until such time as they are convicted. Once convicted they are terminated.
The law you are referring to above, would make it so that a teacher could be fired if accused of a crime.....not just after it was proven. DO you think that is a good thing? If I were to go to your boss and claim that you were a pedophile, should he fire you because I said so, or should he wait until something is proven? If you work with kids, of course he would suspend you until the investigation is complete, but wouldn't you want him to keep paying you until the allegations were proved?
Why is this stuff so hard for you to understand?
Are you saying that teachers should be considered guilty until proven innocent little man?
Really?
Nice spin arsewipe. here is the truth:

LOS ANGELES—Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa slammed it as "cynical political manipulation," Los Angeles schools Superintendent John Deasy termed it shameful, but for the California Teachers Association, it was a victory.

The defeat Wednesday of a proposed law that would have made it easier for school districts to fire teachers in cases of sexual and other egregious misconduct has shone a spotlight on the strong sway of the California Teachers Association, widely considered the state's most politically influential labor union with more than 325,000 members.

SB 1530 had previously sailed through the Senate, but ran into a stepped up lobbying effort by the CTA at Wednesday's hearing of the Assembly Education Committee.

The bill garnered five votes. It needed six to exit committee to head to the Assembly floor.

"Clearly, they have a powerful voice," said a disappointed Sen. Alex Padilla, D-Pacoima, who authored the bill. "It made an impact."

Padilla introduced the bill earlier this year, spurred by the case of a veteran teacher at Miramonte Elementary School in Los Angeles who was arrested in January on 32 lewd conduct charges involving school children.

Prosecutors say Mark Berndt blindfolded students and fed them his semen by spoon and smeared on cookies in what he told them was a "tasting game."

and...here is the refom bill (SB1530) that was succesfully blocked by the teachers union.
http://www.aroundthecapitol.com/Bills/SB_1530...

I am happy to allow casual readers to learn that you are a liar...yet once again.
The bill was designed to immediately remove the most obvious offenders without crossing the line on due process.
The reason for the bill was the actions of teacher Mark Bernt who was paid $40k to resign after feeding his semen to little kids in a blindfolded "tasting game".
The tragic part of this scenario? Mark Bernt was a teacher for over 25 years and NOT ONE of his peers ever suspected a problem. In fact, one of his peers collaborated with him.....but nobody else at the school had a clue?

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#382 Dec 11, 2012
Local wrote:
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HIO and I have posted ALL of the info. that you are requesting.
Any casual reader can see that you are simply a troll trying to run us around.
It is your turn to provide SOME kind of evidence of what you say.
You are looking like a fool.
C'mon...put up or shut up.
We are discussing a claim made by HIO and not backed up. It is not up to me to provide evidence of it. "Logic" little man, look into it.

If HIO claims teachers get all kinds of crazy benefits that no one else gets he needs to provide a list of those benefits that no one else gets and then demonstrate how they are crazy.

This is simple stuff, I shouldn't always have to be explaining it to you.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Villa De Alvarez, Mexico

#383 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
<quoted text>
If you cannot post a list of the benefits that "Only teachers get" (not employees in other fields) and demonstrate that those benefits are "crazy", you lose that point.
So far niether of you have done any such thing.
I will be happy to repost them just as soon as you show us where you proved that Vern supported the ban on tubing..........

And after you post a link to a site that compares teachers wages to others by hours worked..........LOL

Waiting village liar.........Waiting.......... ROTFLMAO

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Villa De Alvarez, Mexico

#384 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
<quoted text>
We are discussing a claim made by HIO and not backed up. It is not up to me to provide evidence of it. "Logic" little man, look into it.
If HIO claims teachers get all kinds of crazy benefits that no one else gets he needs to provide a list of those benefits that no one else gets and then demonstrate how they are crazy.
This is simple stuff, I shouldn't always have to be explaining it to you.
I have told you many times..........LOL

I will be more than happy to answer your question.......

After you answered mine..........I asked mine before you asked yours and if you had even a tiny amount of man in you then you would do it or admit you lied........

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Villa De Alvarez, Mexico

#385 Dec 11, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
<quoted text>
We are discussing a claim made by HIO and not backed up. It is not up to me to provide evidence of it. "Logic" little man, look into it.
If HIO claims teachers get all kinds of crazy benefits that no one else gets he needs to provide a list of those benefits that no one else gets and then demonstrate how they are crazy.
This is simple stuff, I shouldn't always have to be explaining it to you.
You made claims a long time ago that we are still waiting for you to provide the answers..........LOL

But you are a scum sucking lowlife..........Period.......

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#386 Dec 11, 2012
Local wrote:
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Nice spin arsewipe. here is the truth:
LOS ANGELES—Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa slammed it as "cynical political manipulation," Los Angeles schools Superintendent John
Oh my god you moron. Who cares what the mayor of LA or anyone else thinks????? I thought you said you think for yourself?

What do you think?

Should teachers be treated as guilty until proven innocent, which is what the bill you are talking about does, or should they continue to be treated as innocent until proven guilty.?

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