Meanwhile.......
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#63 Jan 8, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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Yes many like me have chose to leave liberalandya..........LOL
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/health/150-Ill...
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That's good, stay the hell away and no longer pollute our shores...LOL

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#64 Jan 8, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Of course you are trying to support yourself and your family... and you also have to pay your taxes....What horrors!
But look at the bright side....At least you do not have to fight off the indians, find your own clean drinking water, punch trough your our own roads, grow your own wholesome food, send smoke signals to your friends across town, worry about the next cholera epidemic and thousands of other "idiotic programs and causes" you take for granted every day which are made possible by your and everyone else's taxes...
Your problem, SAM, is that you, along with the majority of conservatives posting here, do not use that big meat ball sitting over your shoulders and do not think things through, making it extremely easy for anyone to "take pot shots" at your ideological blather.
I don't mind paying taxes, nor do most conservatives, if those taxes are well spent and the money goes to those really in need.
You Lefties are the ones who really do not think things through. You back government action not matter how illogical or illegal it may be, especially if it is a Dem who writes the law.
A few examples. How logical is it for you to back Obama in his taxation of the rich when the rich will not actually pay more in income tax? Who will really pay more taxes is the working class. The wealthy in this country will not be affected by Obama's tax increase. Do you really think that the wealthy like Buffett or Gates are going to pay any more in income tax? Not at all. They have found a way to avoid the higher tax rates and will do so regardless of what they say.
You claim that ALL government actions are for the betterment of mankind. The ethanol fuel requirements are starving people. Ethanol costs more than gasoline to produce, harms gas engines, plus it robs people of a valuable food crop. What idiocy can implement such policies? Only the government.

I could go on and on but I will never convince you. Beyond all logic you believe that government is the be all and end all, even though government is made up of fallible humans.

" Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all."
Frederic Bastiat.

Oh by the way, my wife and kids may take offense to your remarks about Indians. If you want to be true Lefty you need to be a little more politically correct.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#65 Jan 9, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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I don't mind paying taxes, nor do most conservatives, if those taxes are well spent and the money goes to those really in need.
You Lefties are the ones who really do not think things through. You back government action not matter how illogical or illegal it may be, especially if it is a Dem who writes the law.
A few examples. How logical is it for you to back Obama in his taxation of the rich when the rich will not actually pay more in income tax? Who will really pay more taxes is the working class. The wealthy in this country will not be affected by Obama's tax increase. Do you really think that the wealthy like Buffett or Gates are going to pay any more in income tax? Not at all. They have found a way to avoid the higher tax rates and will do so regardless of what they say.
You claim that ALL government actions are for the betterment of mankind. The ethanol fuel requirements are starving people. Ethanol costs more than gasoline to produce, harms gas engines, plus it robs people of a valuable food crop. What idiocy can implement such policies? Only the government.
I could go on and on but I will never convince you. Beyond all logic you believe that government is the be all and end all, even though government is made up of fallible humans.
" Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all."
Frederic Bastiat.
Oh by the way, my wife and kids may take offense to your remarks about Indians. If you want to be true Lefty you need to be a little more politically correct.
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No one in their right mind minds paying taxes, but who is to decide when money is "well spent" and who are "those really in need?" ??

Lefties do not have a monopoly on backing up "government action," you right wing nuts have also had a hand in backing the government as it engaged and continues to engage into some costly and counterproductive ventures.

You can say whatever you want about high taxes, but you will always be haunted by the fact that our economy flourished the best during periods when the tax rates were the highest upon those who earned the most...

As far as ethanol goes? it is not a bad idea, we just went with the wrong crop, we should have done as Brazil did and gone with sugar cane and I have not heard of their ethanol harming their gas engines nor do I hear of mass starvation in Brazil...

The big island of Hawaii alone could produce enough ethanol to wean the US off of much of that foreign oil...

Even though our government is made up of fallible people, there is no reason to believe it does not do much good for the people... I would not waste my time trying to explain all the good that government does to someone whose moniker bears the illogical slogan "The government is the problem"

Finally, I am sorry you took offense, but my allusion to Indians was not meant to offend your wife and kids but to illustrate a point...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#66 Jan 9, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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" Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all."
Frederic Bastiat.
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You are fond of the above Bastiat quote but you never mention Bastiats' " Candlemakers' Petition" where the Candlemakers' Guild engaged in the very Conservative and Capitalistic act of asking the government to block the Sun to prevent its unfair competition with their products...

Nor do you mention that Bastiat seemed to favor "economic stimulus..."

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#67 Jan 9, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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That's good, stay the hell away and no longer pollute our shores...LOL
Who is going to pay your welfare check when Apple keeps moving its income out of California???

Along with the largest exodus ever seen from the USA???
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#68 Jan 9, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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Who is going to pay your welfare check when Apple keeps moving its income out of California???
Along with the largest exodus ever seen from the USA???
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Don't be afraid, my taxes will keep on paying for your welfare check, even if your imaginary "exodus" ever takes place...LMAO

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#69 Jan 9, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Don't be afraid, my taxes will keep on paying for your welfare check, even if your imaginary "exodus" ever takes place...LMAO
Are you saying you never looked at the links I posted???

Head in the sand......
Here is one is a moron

Lincoln, CA

#70 Jan 10, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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Are you saying you never looked at the links I posted???
Head in the sand......
Hey fornication face, most people just gloss over what you post and don't actually read anything you post because it's always the same bull.

I used to follow your links butt soon realized that said links don't support your fadrications.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#71 Jan 10, 2013
Here is one is a moron wrote:
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Hey fornication face, most people just gloss over what you post and don't actually read anything you post because it's always the same bull.
I used to follow your links butt soon realized that said links don't support your fadrications.
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You are correct again.

As many people have already pointed out to him, many of the links he posts do not back up his BS says and quite a few of them even contradict his ridiculous claims.....

But what can we expect from a moron who claims the military got rid of a gun because it was too powerful to kill the enemy....LMAO

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#72 Jan 10, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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You are correct again.
As many people have already pointed out to him, many of the links he posts do not back up his BS says and quite a few of them even contradict his ridiculous claims.....
But what can we expect from a moron who claims the military got rid of a gun because it was too powerful to kill the enemy....LMAO
But you have never been able to point out anything I have said is wrong..........LOL
Tea Party Solution

Chico, CA

#73 Jan 10, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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You are fond of the above Bastiat quote but you never mention Bastiats' " Candlemakers' Petition" where the Candlemakers' Guild engaged in the very Conservative and Capitalistic act of asking the government to block the Sun to prevent its unfair competition with their products...
Nor do you mention that Bastiat seemed to favor "economic stimulus..."
Good points, GRANDPA.

Bastiat lived in the early 1800's and was one of the earlier libertarian philosophers. I thought that Sam was stuck in the 1940's, whoops.

I found a great libertarian debunking site which you might find interesting. Sam may try it if his blood pressure is low.

http://world.std.com/~mhuben/libindex.html

Here's an excerpt from one of the links, The American Conservative:

"Libertarianism is basically the Marxism of the Right. If Marxism is the delusion that one can run society purely on altruism and collectivism, then libertarianism is the mirror-image delusion that one can run it purely on selfishness and individualism. Society in fact requires both individualism and collectivism, both selfishness and altruism, to function."
Not a moron like HIO

Lincoln, CA

#74 Jan 10, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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But you have never been able to point out anything I have said is wrong..........LOL
You can't prove he hasn't.

Stalemate.
Steve

Chico, CA

#75 Jan 24, 2013
SEOUL (Reuters)- North Korea said on Thursday it would carry out further rocket launches and a nuclear test that would target the United States, dramatically stepping up its threats against a country it called its "sworn enemy".
is a freak

Lincoln, CA

#77 Jan 24, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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But you have never been able to point out anything I have said is wrong..........LOL
Butt I can! Now that calls for a great big "laughing out loud".

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#78 Jan 24, 2013
Thanks again for all of your hard work helping keep conservative view points if front of the eyes of liberals/morons...........LOL
Steve

United States

#79 Feb 2, 2013
Burger King admits it has been selling beef burgers and Whoppers containing horsemeat

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FYI

United States

#80 Feb 2, 2013
State officials warn that children ages 1-17 and women ages 18-45 should not eat larger bass caught in Lake Oroville.
Of particular concern were the presĀ­ence of mercury and polychlorinated biphenyl congeners, or PCBs.

Testing occurred over several years of studies, with results showing that bass over 15 inches, channel catfish and white catfish had high mercury levels.
The Infantile left Winged

United States

#81 Feb 2, 2013
FYI wrote:
State officials warn that children ages 1-17 and women ages 18-45 should not eat larger bass caught in Lake Oroville.
Of particular concern were the presĀ­ence of mercury and polychlorinated biphenyl congeners, or PCBs.
Testing occurred over several years of studies, with results showing that bass over 15 inches, channel catfish and white catfish had high mercury levels.
People throwing their compact fluorescent lamps in the river?
Repubicans are stupid

Lincoln, CA

#82 Feb 2, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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People throwing their compact fluorescent lamps in the river?
No you simpleton, the mercury comes from mine tailings from the gold rush era. Gawd you're ignorant.

Once again you exhibit that you have zero common knowledge.
The Infantile left Winged

Chico, CA

#83 Feb 3, 2013
Repubicans are stupid wrote:
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No you simpleton, the mercury comes from mine tailings from the gold rush era. Gawd you're ignorant.
Once again you exhibit that you have zero common knowledge.
I love it how you ignorant asshole liberals claim you are so smart while you are the stupidest creatures on this earth! LOL
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"The problem with the bulbs is that they'll break before they get to the landfill. They'll break in containers, or they'll break in a dumpster or they'll break in the trucks. Workers may be exposed to very high levels of mercury when that happens," says John Skinner, executive director of the Solid Waste Association of North America, the trade group for the people who handle trash and recycling.

Skinner says when bulbs break near homes, they can contaminate the soil.

Mercury is a potent neurotoxin, and it's especially dangerous for children and fetuses. Most exposure to mercury comes from eating fish contaminated with mercury"
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"According to an April 12 article in The Ellsworth American, Bridges had the misfortune of breaking a CFL during installation in her daughter's bedroom: It dropped and shattered on the carpeted floor.

Aware that CFLs contain potentially hazardous substances, Bridges called her local Home Depot for advice. The store told her that the CFL contained mercury and that she should call the Poison Control hotline, which in turn directed her to the Maine Department of Environmental Protection.
The DEP sent a specialist to Bridges' house to test for mercury contamination. The specialist found mercury levels in the bedroom in excess of six times the state's "safe" level for mercury contamination of 300 billionths of a gram per cubic meter. The DEP specialist recommended that Bridges call an environmental cleanup firm, which reportedly gave her a "low-ball" estimate of US$2,000 to clean up the room. The room then was sealed off with plastic and Bridges began "gathering finances" to pay for the US$2,000 cleaning. Reportedly, her insurance company wouldn't cover the cleanup costs because mercury is a pollutant.
It's quite odd that environmentalists have embraced the CFL, which cannot now and will not in the foreseeable future be made without mercury. Given that there are about five billion light bulb sockets in North American households, we're looking at the possibility of creating billions of hazardous waste sites such as the Bridges' bedroom."

Gawd you're ignorant. LMAO at you!

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