Man's body found below Lookout Point

Scott Steele of Butte County Search and Rescue and an unidentified Cal Fire firefighter prepare a Stokes basket Friday. Full Story
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Slim

Chico, CA

#1 Jun 12, 2010
12 emergency vehicles to get one dead guy out ! There goes my tax money.

Since: Sep 08

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#2 Jun 12, 2010
Slim wrote:
12 emergency vehicles to get one dead guy out ! There goes my tax money.
I agree, 26 to watch Mr Pickles burn.
26 trucks x 5 men/truck= 130 men and they drug it out for weeks. Celebrating their great victory, dinners and awards for everyone.
Standing room only at an average of $90,000.00 a year.
caine

Chico, CA

#3 Jun 12, 2010
maybe the guy rode his bike up & accidently fell over the cliff--w/ no suicide note(they didnt mention one) why assume he jumped? slim & stephen are right--emergency personal made a BIG deal out this for camera time & boredom-ive always thought firemen could do MORE w/ their down time,publc service wise--
Reese Carlisle

United States

#4 Jun 12, 2010
7 fire trucks, 3 responders, and 2 search and rescue vehicles? Is that really necessary? My dog fell 35 days ago from just above Lookout Point and not even 1 fire truck would help retrieve my dog. I was told they weren't enough resources to go down for a dog. I guess it takes the entire town's resources to retrieve a man who choose to jump over and to hell with a fallen and hurt animal. What a waste! Thanks Butte County Rescue.
Chickencoop

Chico, CA

#5 Jun 12, 2010
Well, I'm no rocket scientist, but I think that if one were to focus just hard enough on the article, then it might be determined that all the fire people were there trying to conduct a possible rescue because they did not know the guy was dead yet. I'm gonna go out on a limb, albeit a short one, and say that some people probably survive suicide jumps. THEN, by simply reading the article, it seems reasonable to infer that once they realized the man was dead, the paid fire people left and the volunteer search and rescue people recovered the dead body. I assume that if one of you condemners were involved in a horrible incident and thought dead, rescuers might make the effort to see if they could save you before writing you off.
deer hunter

Chico, CA

#6 Jun 12, 2010
Reese Carlisle wrote:
7 fire trucks, 3 responders, and 2 search and rescue vehicles? Is that really necessary? My dog fell 35 days ago from just above Lookout Point and not even 1 fire truck would help retrieve my dog. I was told they weren't enough resources to go down for a dog. I guess it takes the entire town's resources to retrieve a man who choose to jump over and to hell with a fallen and hurt animal. What a waste! Thanks Butte County Rescue.
its an animal for goodness sakes.....its about time that emergency personnel put the brakes on the saving a danged animal. a hound dog from the animal shelter is not worth spending my tax dollars on.

Since: Feb 10

United States

#7 Jun 12, 2010
There are some things in life that deserve attention in order to educate others. Suicide is a horrible thing and a lot of people are left suffering and in need of compassion. We can get to the moon but we can't fix suicidal depression. Common sense teachs that rude and selfish comments are insensitive and inappropriate. Our mental health system in this county is so broken that people are turned away constantly without any treatment. The family is left behind to pick up the pieces and they would be better served if we offered compassion and focused on prevention. This man's life mattered to someone and if didn't how sad is that?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#8 Jun 12, 2010
This may not have been suicide, maybe his "buddies helped him over and then just parked his bike there.

A lot of suicides on the CSUC railroad track, well if the sheriff's office were separated from the coroners job "like it used to be" maybe they would find some ice pick holes.
Lame

Chico, CA

#9 Jun 12, 2010
Honestly people.... Have you been to a rescue over lookout point? Your tax dollars are hard at work but wouldnt you rather have them doing that than sitting at the station doing nothing and STILL getting paid?
Rick Clements

Chico, CA

#10 Jun 12, 2010
liberals know best wrote:
There are some things in life that deserve attention in order to educate others. Suicide is a horrible thing and a lot of people are left suffering and in need of compassion. We can get to the moon but we can't fix suicidal depression. Common sense teachs that rude and selfish comments are insensitive and inappropriate. Our mental health system in this county is so broken that people are turned away constantly without any treatment. The family is left behind to pick up the pieces and they would be better served if we offered compassion and focused on prevention. This man's life mattered to someone and if didn't how sad is that?
You know, being a member of this forum is a good thing except when you read a story like this. It's sad, It's sad that the man died alone. It meant that love was no longer a part of his life and he missed it so much he chose to journey elsewhere. He must have been a kind man because he chose to save others from his suffering.
As a musician I always wrote about humans like me and the different but beautiful ways others felt love as though it was their best friend and so necessary to living as much as breathing., If you can imagine, and I am going to dedicate this link below to this man who left us all, and take the time to remember all the loves you had, lost, and somehow always survived. When you do this....play this link with your eyes closed and your heart open, and then say goodbye to one of our fallen beings who just gave up everything we never knew about him and will never ever get to enjoy. He went looking for beauty and peace, If he could have only known that we really did care he was once someone who mattered and gathered light among us: the last thing we'll all wonder and do when facing our own death and fear! Who will hold your hand last!

RIP
Bubbles

Chico, CA

#12 Jun 12, 2010
Slim wrote:
12 emergency vehicles to get one dead guy out ! There goes my tax money.
So let me see if I have this right....you firefighter haters are complaining because they were doing their job? You complain that "all they do is sit around" then you complain when they respond to an emergency....amazing. For your information, and not that you will understand, they had NO idea what exactly the situation was when they first arrived....a car over the edge, one person, more than one person, alive, dead...they had no idea. So, the resources requested were as per protocol. AFTER it was determined that it was one person and he was deceased, a majority of the personnel at scene were dismissed. But, it does take a certain amount of people to hoist up the victim in the Stokes basket PLUS the firefighters, safely. It is done with a pulley system that has to be readjusted, so there are a certain amount of people who have to remain on scene to bring the victim's remains up, along with the firefighters. How do I know this? I heard the whole thing on my scanner. If you want to blame anyone for "wasting your tax dollars" blame the person who committed suicide, not the people responding to the scene. THINK before you post your comments people. And, how exactly is it wasting tax dollars when they respond to an incident? They are at their stations, on their shifts. It's not like it is costing extra money to respond. Sheesh.....
IN Town

Chico, CA

#14 Jun 12, 2010
Slim wrote:
12 emergency vehicles to get one dead guy out ! There goes my tax money.
Well you weren't paying for the ambulances, the search and rescue folks were volunteer and the paid firefighters were already on duty and alread getting paid. Wouldn't you rather have "your" tax dollars working on a safe operation rather than having the guys sitting around (because they were already on duty) washing the engine or working out at the gym?

You know, I wonder from some of the comments on this forum if some of you folks are even tax payers. From the low level caliber of comments and thought sometimes it just makes me cringe. I guess you pay taxes when working at McDonalds, right? Just stick to making comments about things you know about, like flipping burgers or mopping the floors at Wal Mart.
tricia

Simi Valley, CA

#16 Jun 12, 2010
This was My Cousin Joey. He was kind and meek. I get much comfort in knowing that People did care about His life. When I read some of the negative comments it makes Me realize that the world is full of insensitive People. Joey must have felt it too. I tried to listen to the song and My server wouldn't allow it. But thank You again. I know where Joey is now and will finally have peace
SaneChicoan

Marysville, CA

#20 Jun 12, 2010
tricia wrote:
This was My Cousin Joey. He was kind and meek. I get much comfort in knowing that People did care about His life. When I read some of the negative comments it makes Me realize that the world is full of insensitive People. Joey must have felt it too. I tried to listen to the song and My server wouldn't allow it. But thank You again. I know where Joey is now and will finally have peace
I had a little trouble with the link too, try this one:


Sorry for your loss.
Marie Antoinette

United States

#21 Jun 12, 2010
We went about this all wrong, we should have installed a launch ramp. If people want to go, who're we to say no? My only stipulation would be this, that they pass a psyche test first and then after being found sane and rational, we give them a nice pat on the back and the keys to the ramp. Maybe we could arrange for some music or shoot off some fireworks for them? They could go out like Evel Knievel on the 4th of July. Hey, I'm just trying to help, we all gotta go sometime anyway, why not do in GRANDE way?
sally

Paradise, CA

#22 Jun 12, 2010
I like that Marie!
So Sorry

Chico, CA

#23 Jun 12, 2010
tricia wrote:
This was My Cousin Joey. He was kind and meek. I get much comfort in knowing that People did care about His life. When I read some of the negative comments it makes Me realize that the world is full of insensitive People. Joey must have felt it too. I tried to listen to the song and My server wouldn't allow it. But thank You again. I know where Joey is now and will finally have peace
Tricia I am so sorry for your loss. I can assure you EVERY rescuer that was there yesterday treated your cousin with the utmost respect. I hope you know that as a rescue person myself that we are truly there to help people and to do anything we can to make the best out of what can be someones worse situation.

And to Stephens...stay off my post.
Slim

Chico, CA

#26 Jun 12, 2010
How do you rescue a dead guy, you idiots.
Rick Clements

Chico, CA

#27 Jun 12, 2010
tricia wrote:
This was My Cousin Joey. He was kind and meek. I get much comfort in knowing that People did care about His life. When I read some of the negative comments it makes Me realize that the world is full of insensitive People. Joey must have felt it too. I tried to listen to the song and My server wouldn't allow it. But thank You again. I know where Joey is now and will finally have peace
Tricia, I am so sorry for your loss.I am even more sorry that God made some people so cruel and mindless. I hope that the song I gave you will bring nothing but beautiful memories of Joey. I only wish that we could send the mindless selfish idiots that treated this event so poorly to a war zone. Only there would they come to know what it's like to live around death, and cherish how lucky they are to be free of fear instead of dead!
God Bless Joey and God Bless you!
Rescuer

Chico, CA

#29 Jun 13, 2010
Slim wrote:
How do you rescue a dead guy, you idiots.
Okay genius...you "recover" them the same way you rescue someone that is alive. Happy? I think you're the idiot.

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