Taxing the rich...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#63 Dec 5, 2012
Progun wrote:
<quoted text>Nice job avoiding the question. Typical Democrat. I'm actually surprised you haven't pulled your coveted race card, seeing that you are losing the argument.
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What do you expect when your question is flawed?

First off, raising taxes will not make all the rich pack up and move elsewhere, that is an historical fact...but a moron like HERE IS ONE will attempt to rewrite history.....

Second, many people work for corporations and more than likely do not get hired by anyone "rich"

Lastly, many mom and pop operations are not viewed as rich but they are responsible for a significant amount of hiring....

“Facts”

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#64 Dec 5, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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What do you expect when your question is flawed?

First off, raising taxes will not make all the rich pack up and move elsewhere, that is an historical fact...but a moron like HERE IS ONE will attempt to rewrite history.....

Second, many people work for corporations and more than likely do not get hired by anyone "rich"

Lastly, many mom and pop operations are not viewed as rich but they are responsible for a significant amount of hiring....
The IRS data shows that raising taxes will not increase the revenue the IRS receives

And part of the reason is that the rich will leave

Raising taxes will increase the price of everything you buy......

So why do you morons want that????

Besides the fact that you hate everyone that has more than you???

“Facts”

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#65 Dec 5, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Brilliant reply...

Give me another week or two and I am gonna have you posting nothing but...."duh...duh...duh.. ..uh...duh" LMAO
That is all you post now

Childish schoolyard rants
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#66 Dec 5, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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The IRS data shows that raising taxes will not increase the revenue the IRS receives
And part of the reason is that the rich will leave
Raising taxes will increase the price of everything you buy......
So why do you morons want that????
Besides the fact that you hate everyone that has more than you???
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Really..????

The IRS data says that it receives less during economic boom times....???LMAO

Why don't you show us....???LMAO

There were times when taxes were a hell of a lot higher than they are today and the rich stayed put and worked double time ....LMAO

With more and more countries tightening up their tax rules and cracking down on multinationals, the rich will not have too many places to run away to....but Somalia will still be there though....

GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#67 Dec 5, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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That is all you post now
Childish schoolyard rants
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What else can one post when dealing with ignorant morons like you and SOCIOPATH...???? LOL

“Facts”

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#68 Dec 5, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Really..????
The IRS data says that it receives less during economic boom times....???LMAO
Why don't you show us....???LMAO
There were times when taxes were a hell of a lot higher than they are today and the rich stayed put and worked double time ....LMAO
With more and more countries tightening up their tax rules and cracking down on multinationals, the rich will not have too many places to run away to....but Somalia will still be there though....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =saWCZVggQAsXX
Once again you show how stupid you are..........LOL

Why did you refuse to read the IRS data????

It clearly shows that every time taxes were raised the amount of revenue the IRS received went down....

And when the taxes were lowered the revenue went up.........

Are you really that stupid that you did not know that when the taxes were at their highest point in the USA there was no other safe place in the world with lower taxes??

And now Canada next door is offering 15% max tax..........LOL

So why are you trying to change the subject again???

“Facts”

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#69 Dec 5, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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What else can one post when dealing with ignorant morons like you and SOCIOPATH...???? LOL
Sam and everyone else except your stable mate........Baaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaa
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#70 Dec 5, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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Once again you show how stupid you are..........LOL
Why did you refuse to read the IRS data????
It clearly shows that every time taxes were raised the amount of revenue the IRS received went down....
And when the taxes were lowered the revenue went up.........
Are you really that stupid that you did not know that when the taxes were at their highest point in the USA there was no other safe place in the world with lower taxes??
And now Canada next door is offering 15% max tax..........LOL
So why are you trying to change the subject again???
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You are the stupid moron changing the subject...LOL

I asked if your IRS data shows the IRS collected less during economic boom times, and you came out with a rash ofshit which means the IRS did not collect less during those periods...LMAO

I suppose your IRS data also shows that it has been collecting more since the bush.w tax cuts went into effect...LMAO

BTW, when Clinton raised taxes there were plenty of "safe places in the world with lower taxes"

Also if "Canada next door is offering 15% max tax" than why is the Canadian economy struggling and has an unemployment rate about the same as the U.S...?? LMAO

“Facts”

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#71 Dec 5, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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You are the stupid moron changing the subject...LOL
I asked if your IRS data shows the IRS collected less during economic boom times, and you came out with a rash ofshit which means the IRS did not collect less during those periods...LMAO
I suppose your IRS data also shows that it has been collecting more since the bush.w tax cuts went into effect...LMAO
BTW, when Clinton raised taxes there were plenty of "safe places in the world with lower taxes"
Also if "Canada next door is offering 15% max tax" than why is the Canadian economy struggling and has an unemployment rate about the same as the U.S...?? LMAO
Changing the story again..........ROTFLMAO

The data I posted was only comparing the raising and lowering of taxes and its effect on the revenue stream........

If you had read it you would have known.....

Wrong again village liar..........
When slick willy raised taxes there was no real safe haven for business that had lower taxes....
But the Clinton tax hikes did bring about the largest transfers of money from US banks to offshore banks like Swiss and caymans.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#72 Dec 5, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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Changing the story again..........ROTFLMAO
The data I posted was only comparing the raising and lowering of taxes and its effect on the revenue stream........
If you had read it you would have known.....
Wrong again village liar..........
When slick willy raised taxes there was no real safe haven for business that had lower taxes....
But the Clinton tax hikes did bring about the largest transfers of money from US banks to offshore banks like Swiss and caymans.
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Bull!

You have not proved that the IRS collected less during boom periods with higher tax rates or that it collected less during bust periods with lower tax rates...LMAO

Yea, during the Clinton years people were making money hands over fists and many cheats were stashing money in Swiss accounts, but the US government leaned on Switzerland making it harder for Americans to hide money from the tax man...

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#73 Dec 5, 2012
Progun wrote:
<quoted text>Nice job avoiding the question. Typical Democrat. I'm actually surprised you haven't pulled your coveted race card, seeing that you are losing the argument.
Sorry but what was the question?

I must have missed it.
Laughing at One

Sacramento, CA

#74 Dec 5, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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Yes a moron like you is not smart enough to look at the post she was responding to so I will repost it for you.......LOL
Laughing at One wrote:
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I'd love to butt before I would contemplate answering your question; you need to give the proper number of persons earning one million or more per year and their total combined compensation.
Let me give you a little hint, there are more than "3.1" millionaires in the United States of America.
HIO wrote
I will be happy to road toad........
Just as soon as you answer the question you agreed to answer over a year go.........
Remember??
You told me you would answer my question if I answered yours......
Ahhhhhhhhh, I was responding to post(s) nos. 1 & 13 so I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Are you Progun? Did you post nos.1 and 13?

Gawd you're a fuckfacemoron.

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#75 Dec 5, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Bull!
You have not proved that the IRS collected less during boom periods with higher tax rates or that it collected less during bust periods with lower tax rates...LMAO
Yea, during the Clinton years people were making money hands over fists and many cheats were stashing money in Swiss accounts, but the US government leaned on Switzerland making it harder for Americans to hide money from the tax man...
Changing the subject again..........LOL

The IRS data shows that when taxes are raised their revenue goes down and when taxes are lowered revenue goes up.......PERIOD..........

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#76 Dec 5, 2012
Reagan Made the Same Tax Argument as Obama

Said in 1985 speech that secretaries shouldn't pay higher tax rates than their corporate bosses
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29 min ago by PolitixDavid

David Mark, Editor-in-Chief t

Image: AP


In 1985 President Ronald Reagan said business executives shouldn't pay lower tax rates than their secretaries. That's just the pitch President Barack Obama is making a generation later, according to a video going viral on Reddit and elsewhere.

An urban-sounding narrator quotes Reagan saying a man who made a six-figure income wanted to testify before Congress to explain why he thought "paying a smaller tax" than his secretary was wrong. Obama now says much the same thing about Warren Buffett's secretary.

In 1985, Reagan delivered another speech further expounding on the effects of loopholes that allowed the wealthy to pay little to no taxes, says the unnamed video narrator.

"We're going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that have allowed some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share," Reagan told the crowd. "In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying 10 percent of his salary, and that's crazy. It's time we stopped it."

So is Reagan wrong or is Obama right?
sociopathic Liberals

Orland, CA

#77 Dec 5, 2012
JFK speech on tax cuts.


So is JFK wrong? Or is oblamer right?

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#78 Dec 5, 2012
sociopathic Liberals wrote:
JFK speech on tax cuts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =qmHdqWPB_S8XX
So is JFK wrong? Or is oblamer right?
You respond with a subject change rather than an answer.

Typical Cowardly Conservative behavior.

But what the heck I will address your point anyway. You are comparing apples to oranges. DO you know what tax rates were when Kennedy said that? Especially on the rich? How about Capital Gains? Do you have any idea? Look into it.

Secondly, You do know, don't you, that current overall tax rates are lower than they have been since Truman was president?

Finally, Kennedy had a point at the time. We had payed off WWII and Tax rates were probably too high at that time, but in the long term Kennedy was wrong. Obama is right.

But hey, if you want to, lets set tax rates back to what Kennedy lowered them to. LOL.

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#79 Dec 5, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
Reagan Made the Same Tax Argument as Obama

Said in 1985 speech that secretaries shouldn't pay higher tax rates than their corporate bosses
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29 min ago by PolitixDavid

David Mark, Editor-in-Chief t

Image: AP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =whwCxpLRMmEXX

In 1985 President Ronald Reagan said business executives shouldn't pay lower tax rates than their secretaries. That's just the pitch President Barack Obama is making a generation later, according to a video going viral on Reddit and elsewhere.

An urban-sounding narrator quotes Reagan saying a man who made a six-figure income wanted to testify before Congress to explain why he thought "paying a smaller tax" than his secretary was wrong. Obama now says much the same thing about Warren Buffett's secretary.

In 1985, Reagan delivered another speech further expounding on the effects of loopholes that allowed the wealthy to pay little to no taxes, says the unnamed video narrator.

"We're going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that have allowed some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share," Reagan told the crowd. "In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying 10 percent of his salary, and that's crazy. It's time we stopped it."

So is Reagan wrong or is Obama right?
The only problem with your statement is the moron oslama confuses earned income and unearned income

Raising capitol gains taxes is raising a tax on already taxed income that is invested in the USA
That will encourage more investing outside the USA

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#80 Dec 5, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
<quoted text>You respond with a subject change rather than an answer.

Typical Cowardly Conservative behavior.

But what the heck I will address your point anyway. You are comparing apples to oranges. DO you know what tax rates were when Kennedy said that? Especially on the rich? How about Capital Gains? Do you have any idea? Look into it.

Secondly, You do know, don't you, that current overall tax rates are lower than they have been since Truman was president?

Finally, Kennedy had a point at the time. We had payed off WWII and Tax rates were probably too high at that time, but in the long term Kennedy was wrong. Obama is right.

But hey, if you want to, lets set tax rates back to what Kennedy lowered them to. LOL.
Wrong again

Income taxes may be lower but overall taxes are very high compared to what other countries are offering

A moron like you that argued that teachers are not paid enough compared to other workers can't understand that we also must compare USA tax rates to other countries.

Just as you say we are not getting good new teachers because they compare wages is just the same as saying we are losing jobs and investments because investors are comparing the cost of investing in the USA compared to other countries
sociopathic Liberals

Orland, CA

#81 Dec 5, 2012
Are your eyes open wrote:
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You respond with a subject change rather than an answer.
Typical Cowardly Conservative behavior.
A subject change???
It was the same question that you asked about the same exact topic! Dickhead!!!
Typical liberal cowardly lies!!!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#82 Dec 5, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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Changing the subject again..........LOL
The IRS data shows that when taxes are raised their revenue goes down and when taxes are lowered revenue goes up.......PERIOD..........
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If that were true then you would have absolutely no problems in showing IRS revenues going down when tax rates were sky high and the economy was growing like gangbusters and IRS revenues going up since the bush.w tax cuts ... but you can't....PERIOD....LMAO

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