Pit Bulls must be banned
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On a Mission

Panama City Beach, FL

#1 Mar 27, 2013
All pit bulls and hybrids need to be banned immediately. They are dangerous and a menace to society.
Yeah and

Panama City, FL

#2 Mar 28, 2013
On a Mission wrote:
All pit bulls and hybrids need to be banned immediately. They are dangerous and a menace to society.
And coming onto Topix and b!+ching is really going to get a lot done? Bravo, keyboard warrior.
Bra_educated

Panama City, FL

#4 Mar 30, 2013
thomas and On a mission.. Keep your fucking nose out of other peoples affairs. Ive owned pitbulls and i've I now own 2 Wolf/Malamute's.. my pit was the best trained dog, never bit anyone diddnt growl i could stick my hand in his foodbowl shed eat around it and new people would come up and she wouldnt jump up or be agressive at all.. my hybrids are 5 months old and we take them to the dog park every tuesday at frank brown.. so if u want to see for yourself how well behaved they are come on down.. If theres a menace to society its nosey people like yourself that cant handle someone elses happiness. why should an animal not have the right to live or be in a loving home? Because, you're too busy being tapered up scared in your own shadow?. Do some reading my hybrids are the most friendly dogs they dont bark ever. they dont growl they dont get aggressive a little yorkie barked at them they both rolled over submissively.. does that sound like a menacing evil dog? And thomas.. why is someones animal a problem.. If the animal and the owner do not bother you aside from the fact u know they have an animal leave them the F#$k alone it's their life, not yours. You nosey A$s People make me sick always need to have your opinion heard you hear one story and get all raddled for nothing
On a mission

Panama City Beach, FL

#5 Mar 30, 2013
You, lady are what creates this problem with aggressive dogs. You do no understand their natural instincts. You remind me of that idiot in alaska that thought it was a great idea to live with grizzlies and then one day they ate him. Karma
Bra_educated

Panama City, FL

#7 Mar 31, 2013
Lady im a 26 year old man. Thanks.now to your opinion i have this to say. No animal was ever created to be a pet. Every animal was initially in the wild, we have domesticated certain animals over a period of time and changed and watched them evolve and mix with other breeds and types.. So all animals came from somewhere.. You sound so old and outdated, and sound like you have been reading to much into the news and little tabloid articles. some animals attack.. your more likely to be mugged in the parking lot then having a pit or hybrid come chasing you through the night into your home. Thomas..I have full protection insurance on my dogs, they cover any incidents that may come. My landlords are well aware of what my dogs are. I take my dogs to obeidience training and they already passed the puppy training course.. You have the right to not be harmed and i agree some extent but you have to remember that all dogs are able to be violent no dog is naturally violent, its the enviorment they are raised, so it is the owner Never The Breed.// Banning the breed? Ive been bit worse from cockerspaniels and small dogs are more vicious. and my dogs have had little todlers pulling on their tails throwing things at them petting them playing with them. my dogs do not Nip, because i taught them no mouth contact is acceptable asside from licking a hand.. nothing further.. my dogs do not jump on other people Its training its the owner.. Its not the breed.

Heres a picture of my two "Oh So Vicious attack wolves"

http://tinypic.com/r/a4wt2h/6
Bra_educated

Panama City, FL

#9 Mar 31, 2013
You know what i think.. that you are just simply scared of any animal that crosses your path. I'm going to say it again.. its the handler not the animal.. of course incidents happen. You cannot control anything. And that incident on the beach a bulldog attacking a sea animal.. so a fraile 18 year old girl shouldnt be holding that much power if shes unable to control it.. I however am a 170 lb man that can control my animal.. When was the last time you were attacked by a wolf hybrid?
Bra_educated

Panama City, FL

#10 Mar 31, 2013
From 1982-2010 Fatal Dog Attacks and Maimings from a wolf hybrid. are .03% of entire dog population. roughly 20 people have died in 20+ years 1 person a year dies from a fatal bite or attack and i can pretty much guess at improper handling.
Bra_educated

Panama City, FL

#13 Apr 1, 2013
the case you are making can be said about any dog. for that matter any animal.. horses kill about 20 people each year.. whast about the black lab that killed that little boy theres even a recorded incident of a Golden Retriever killing his owner.. should all dogs over 30 lbs just be banned just because they have the capacity to over power someone.. i can justify what ever i want however i want simply because it is my opinion. Do you own a hybrid ? Have you ever owned a Hybrid? If not are you making all of your arguments based on only what the media has provided to you.. how many incidents about hybrids had you heard about before the baby seal attack? I just dont think you can justify letting a dog be banned or trying to get rid of a certain breed because of a few incidents with people that havent taken the time to educate themselves on the animal they are bringing home.
I dont need a game plan because my dogs Sit and stay while the door is open until i give the come command. I have an enclosed patio that is only place the dogs go we do not have a yard therefor we walk them and take them to the dog park frequently.. they do not chew the leash they did that as puppies and we broke them of that habit.. so this time bomb that you speak of is a dud.
Corry El

Weehawken, NJ

#14 Apr 1, 2013
ThomasA and Mission, you are not dealing with the core of the argument, which is what degree do you get to dictate other people's lives *PRE-EMPTIVELY* to avoid dangerous things which *might* happen if they aren't careful. I'll give an example completely divorced from dogs. At one time my (apartment) neighbor did one of those home sales businesses (Amway or some such) and had in her inventory various household chemicals. She foolishly stored them above her stove. Even the relatively small amount of heat set off some reaction, eventually a small explosion with knocked stuff off the wall in our apartment. Then she ran from her apartment in a panic. I covered my face with a wet towel and went in and got her little daughter. All kinds of dangers were created for my family and me. But does this mean laws should be passed for the authorities to preemptively search people's houses for fire hazards like that? or 'ban' the possession of enough of such chemicals to cause a smoke/fire/minor explosion situation in the presence of a stove? I would surmise that accidents like that are *at least* as statistically common as serious dog attacks. You can read about such dog attacks 'all the time', but this is a country of ca. 150 mil households. Just seeing single incidents of something relatively frequently in the media doesn't mean they are remotely common in everyday terms.

When possession of an item only causes problems is some very small % of cases (and no reasonable person could claim that a significant % of all dogs described as 'pit bulls' end up injuring people, it's clear that the vast majority don't) rational laws rely on the idea that individual people who act irresponsibly with those objects will be called to account. It is, or should be, a very high burden of proof to pass laws which ban the object when we know a very small % of the objects and owners will cause problems. The 'pit bull' banners don't come anywhere near meeting that burden of proof IMO.

Besides the relatively rarity of the incidents they trumpet, those incidents are virtually always the product of specific irresponsible actions on the part of dog owners (not spay/neutering, as many as 90% of serious dog attacks are by unaltered male dogs; chaining dogs outside, specifically training them as guard animals, which is an abuse of 'pit bull' type dogs just as much as training them to fight other dogs is, or even more so, etc). It's a total myth that the dogs involved in these incidents often 'just snapped', that's actually almost never true. In most cases the incidents could have been prevented by actual enforcement of existing breed neutral laws (leashes, fining owners whose dogs get loose, etc).

And, there is no firmly fixed definition of 'pit bull', so places which enact such laws devote all kinds of public resources to fighting owners in court who say their dogs aren't 'pit bulls' though Animal Control says they are, or else the laws are written to allow Animal Control total power, which tramples citizens' rights to due process. And the laws inherently tend to get municipalities into pissing contests with relatively upstanding citizens. The bad actor dog owners just ignore the laws.

Breed Specific Laws are a completely idiotic idea. You can't win this argument with reasonable people by demanding a 100% gtee from people like Bra_Educated (or myself) that our dogs couldn't possibly,*possibly* cause a problem. That's not the right question when your proposal is highly invasive laws of dubiously enforceability. I agree with Bra_E: mind your own business and/or find some other issue where you can actually accomplish some good. BSL is losing out in more and more places, because it's unfair, ineffective and just plain stupid. You are pissing into the wind with this one.
SeenItBefore

Bradenton, FL

#19 Apr 2, 2013
7 year old boy killed in Callaway by one of those lovable, never would hurt a flea dogs. Kill'em all.
On A Mission

Panama City Beach, FL

#21 Apr 2, 2013
.http://www.newsherald.com/new s/update-child-injured-in-dog- mauling-1.120902?tc=cr

The animals need to be put down, NOW. The owners need to turn over all there property and assets to the victim and go to jail for a minimum of 5 years. People need to eliminate these beasts if they are in their neighborhood, if you walk your dog carry a weapon and do not hesitate to use it.
Bra_educated

Panama City, FL

#22 Apr 2, 2013
oh wow so those dogs that have reportedly been attacking other people attacked again.. and what did the gentleman say in the article that those dogs were not raised right. just stop posting all of your arguments are invalid. Corry El is spot on thank god their is someone with a head screwed in correctly. seenitbefore those dogs have chased and attacked before it wasnt one of those never would hurt a flea dog.. soo your argument once again is invalid. and i promise you if i ever come across one of you and you intend to pull a weapon on my dog, you'll be in gods graces if i let you live.
Scott

Panama City, FL

#23 Apr 3, 2013
Who is the owner of these bull dogs and have they come forward to pay for health care for that child.Bet they don't have a dime to there name,but got a damn bull dog ,pure trash
SeenItBefore

Panama City, FL

#24 Apr 3, 2013
Bra_educated wrote:
oh wow so those dogs that have reportedly been attacking other people attacked again.. and what did the gentleman say in the article that those dogs were not raised right. just stop posting all of your arguments are invalid. Corry El is spot on thank god their is someone with a head screwed in correctly. seenitbefore those dogs have chased and attacked before it wasnt one of those never would hurt a flea dog.. soo your argument once again is invalid. and i promise you if i ever come across one of you and you intend to pull a weapon on my dog, you'll be in gods graces if i let you live.
You might try...you'd lose but, go ahead if you feel lucky.
Truth

Panama City, FL

#25 Apr 3, 2013
All dogs have teeth and can bite. PERIOD. There are several breeds of pitbulls. Most people lump them together as one type. Demonizing all breeds of pits because of fear is ignorant. Do you know the background of the animal that bit someone? Do you know if it was encouraged to fight and bite? Do you know if it was sick? Do you know how the owner treated the animal? Do you know if the owner responsibly socialized the dog? Taught it how to behave on and off a leash? Around other people?

Day before yesterday I was walking along the sidewalk when a Labrador retriever rushed me, snarling and barking. There was no fence between us. That dog could have attacked me. I've owned many breeds of dogs throughout my life, and I'm a lover of labs. I was shocked that this dog rushed me, but even moreso I was shocked that the owner of the dog was sitting on his front porch and never called the dog off! Not to mention didn't have the dog on a leash! I don't care if the dog was in its own yard or not...there was nothing to prevent that dog from attacking me.

Yesterday I witnessed a man and boy walking their large dog (on a leash) when another man's smaller dog (that WASN'T on a leash) ran towards the man, boy, and leashed dog barking and snarling. The owner of the smaller dog called and called for his dog, but the smaller dog didn't respond. Someone hollered, "Oh, he's nice! Don't worry!" but that does nothing had the stars aligned just right and the dogs tied up fighting or if the smaller dog had attacked the man and boy.

My point is that all dogs, regardless of size, age, and PERCEIVED temperment, should be adequately trained and socialized. They should receive proper, regular inspections with a trusted, respected, professional vet, and in addition, all dogs should be on a leash when outside of the home. Within their own home, keep the dog inside or keep it within some kind of adequately fenced area.

Failures to do so could result in serious accidents and injury. EVERYONE SHOULD know that, but oftentimes we are too lazy and fail the animal that RELIES on us.
SeenItBefore

Panama City, FL

#26 Apr 3, 2013
Temporize all you wish. A Pit Bull tore a 7 year old child apart yesterday. Your anecdotal evidence fails the smell test at its lowest level. Kill'em all.
LOL

Panama City, FL

#27 Apr 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
Temporize all you wish. A Pit Bull tore a 7 year old child apart yesterday. Your anecdotal evidence fails the smell test at its lowest level. Kill'em all.
Wow. And your comment shows your intelligence at its lowest level, too.
Anonymous

Panama City, FL

#29 Apr 3, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah right! Big talk. We walk in a public park that is clearly posted that all, all, A L L dogs must be on a leash at all times but people still let their dogs loose to "romp". I carry DOG STOP and a pistol,not that I want to but I'm not going to sit by and let any dog attack me or my family. I've only had to mace one dog that wouldn't stop on the owner's command and got too close for comfort. Keep your animal under complete control in public and you won't have to make your petty threats.
trust it wasnt a threat i never once said that my dog was off leash.. and my dogs dont bark or growl. so you can do what you want to protect yourself but the way you and seenit talk your more of a threat then the dogs are.
On a Mission

Panama City, FL

#31 Apr 4, 2013
http://home.knology.net/news/read.php...

Oh yeah no problem here.
A pittbull owner

Marianna, FL

#32 Apr 4, 2013
Let me first start off by saying everyone has the right to an opinion. So let me tell you all I have bred Pitbulls for 13 years and have raised them around my children and grandchildren. I have never had one that was not loveable, loyal and smart! It is not the breed it is the owners so I don't think you should be on here putting everyone else's dog down! Cause let me tell you something what if we speak of your children? I would never have anything other then a pitbull! So you trouble making nosy old people need to go bark up another tree! Don't hate on the ones that do love their animals!

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