Elections Have Consequences, Or So I've Heard

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John Sanchez

Addison, IL

#1 Nov 27, 2012
Elections have consequences, but Republicans believe that the consequences are to suffer the losers’ policies that were opposed by the electorate. In demonstrating that their hubris and contempt for the voters’ intelligence remain undiminished, they have proposed that if Democrats give Republicans what they want in terms of destroying Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare, Republicans will give Democrats what Republicans want in terms of tax revenue, which is the elimination of tax deductions and exemptions available to the middle class and low income workers. Breathtaking, isn’t it?

Republicans clearly believe that the voters that they thought were stupid enough to vote for them, but weren’t, are, nevertheless, stupid enough to have it put over on them that Republicans are bargaining in good faith in the matter of the “fiscal cliff”. But when measuring the intelligence levels on either side of the equation, we must conclude that it is these Republican lawmakers who are entirely bereft of intellect, since an intelligent person could not possibly utter their imbecilities and resist snickering up his sleeve.

The only course available to sensible people is to forge ahead with what voters approved on November 6. That is to restore the Clinton era marginal income tax rates on upper income taxpayers and to make reasonable spending cuts, including to the Pentagon that aren’t so severe as to throw the country back into recession. Entitlements, or more accurately, earned benefit programs, must be off the table since they never added a dime to deficits or the national debt.

If Republicans can lather themselves into enough of a froth to oppose such reasonable measures, they can be put out of our misery in the 2014 midterm elections. Perhaps then we will have a government that is responsible enough to seriously conduct the people’s business.
mokena

Mokena, IL

#2 Nov 28, 2012
John Sanchez wrote:
Elections have consequences, but Republicans believe that the consequences are to suffer the losers’ policies that were opposed by the electorate. In demonstrating that their hubris and contempt for the voters’ intelligence remain undiminished, they have proposed that if Democrats give Republicans what they want in terms of destroying Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare, Republicans will give Democrats what Republicans want in terms of tax revenue, which is the elimination of tax deductions and exemptions available to the middle class and low income workers. Breathtaking, isn’t it?
Republicans clearly believe that the voters that they thought were stupid enough to vote for them, but weren’t, are, nevertheless, stupid enough to have it put over on them that Republicans are bargaining in good faith in the matter of the “fiscal cliff”. But when measuring the intelligence levels on either side of the equation, we must conclude that it is these Republican lawmakers who are entirely bereft of intellect, since an intelligent person could not possibly utter their imbecilities and resist snickering up his sleeve.
The only course available to sensible people is to forge ahead with what voters approved on November 6. That is to restore the Clinton era marginal income tax rates on upper income taxpayers and to make reasonable spending cuts, including to the Pentagon that aren’t so severe as to throw the country back into recession. Entitlements, or more accurately, earned benefit programs, must be off the table since they never added a dime to deficits or the national debt.
If Republicans can lather themselves into enough of a froth to oppose such reasonable measures, they can be put out of our misery in the 2014 midterm elections. Perhaps then we will have a government that is responsible enough to seriously conduct the people’s business.
quo vadis?
John Sanchez

Addison, IL

#3 Nov 28, 2012
mokena wrote:
<quoted text> quo vadis?
Where I am going, you may follow. You need only to love your country.
Well said

New Lenox, IL

#4 Nov 28, 2012
I love it. Glad to see some Democrats in Mokena. Lets go off the fiscal cliff. Then lets set the middle class taxes and bring back the tax rates just post WWII. In fact, bring them back to Reagan's first year in office. That'll do.
John Sanchez

Wheaton, IL

#5 Dec 3, 2012
John Boehner amd Mitch McConnell are still pushing the Romney economic plan, which is the Ryan budget that was repudiated by Americans on November 6, and supposing that this is a reasonable proposal to avoid sequestration on January 1. Clearly they need something to reconnect them with the real world.

My recommendation is for the Democratic caucus in the Congress to put something more on the table in the sequestration negotiations. That would be to tax capital gains as regular income.

We may recall that "regular income" is the kind that people go out and earn with their skills, their ingenuity, their labor. People who spend a day earning "regular income" generally come home tired, looking forward to recharging themselves so that they may go out the next day to do it again. Capital gains are generally "earned" by virtue of someone else's labor.

I know that the rationalization for lower capital gains taxes, not the reason, the rationalization, is to provide an incentive for all of these captains of industry to invest in more innovation, more production and more jobs. But these are the very things that we have missed since the tremendous advantages conferred by lower capital gains rates. At least we have missed them domestically.

The reality of capital gains is a reward for no more of an investment of effort than to make a savings account deposit at the local bank. Why should that be held up as more valuable than the hard work that earns "regular income"?

A situation where we offer the incentive over decades and fail to reap the expected rewards must be considered to be, at best, a mistake. The mortgage interest deduction for the top one percent averages around $34,000 dollars. Taking that away from them pales to insignificance when compared to their capital gains income which averages hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Put that offer on the table. If it is enacted, it would be a fair measure that helps to pull us out of our debt crisis, be it manufactured or not. Even if not enacted, it could serve to move the Republicans off the dime by having the threat of such a measure offer them an incentive to save their capital gains privilege by acting reasonably in other areas.
John Sanchez

Wheaton, IL

#6 Dec 4, 2012
Republicans under John Boehner and Mitch McConnell are also proposing that the age of eligibility for Medicare coverage be raised. In their zeal to attack earned benefit programs, they are making this proposal knowing fully well that many people will also be unable to get their Social Security retirement. The reason for this is that if they retire at age 65, but cannot obtain Medicare coverage, they will find health insurance to be unaffordable on Social Security. As a consequence, these people will have to remain in the work force to maintain their health insurance coverage.

This result will also have consequences regarding unemployment which will remain at stubbornly high levels, at least for several years, due to jobs not being opened up by retiring workers.
irondale guy

Mokena, IL

#7 Dec 4, 2012
John Sanchez can out Write just about anybody.Bravo John keep up the good work.

You raise the bar on this blog.
irondale guy

Mokena, IL

#8 Dec 7, 2012
The mokena messenger is running a poll on line on the vehicle sticker issue.It's not as popular as the powers that be thought it would be.
It might come back to bite them in the rear end.
No to Mayor

New Lenox, IL

#9 Dec 8, 2012
The Powers that be think they can dictate to us regardless of our thoughts or ideas that's why they don't included items they feel may have contrary opinions from the residents ! Example's include : French Market , Sticker Elimination and until Labriola forced them to hold meeting the Electrical Aggregation ! They do to much behind the scene's and I'm sure they think that's fine ? Also how do they use our TAX DOLLARS to promote WERNERS PRIVATE CHARITY ? It's ridiculous they do this using Employees,phones,cable and on Village ( out time )! WERNER then gets up at OUR VILLAGE BOARD MEETING and makes a BIG SHOW out of giving out HIS checks to local Charities ( they are excellent charities and its not their fault )! WERNER uses OUR TAX MONEY to promote himself and that's WRONG ! Then look at the comfortable arrangement he has with a Village Employees dad and WERNERS EMPLOYER ( Blue Island ) who allows him to drive HIS PERSONAL TRUCK which has no Blue Island Markings to work and that WERNER has his own business just outside Blue Island ( WOW ) and WERNER is often seen during work hours here in Mokena ( WOW ), he says he does it to save Blue Island money ? Hey WERNER instead of Eliminating the Stickers to save money you should allow our Village Employees to drive their personal vehicles ( without Mokena Markings ) to save us Money ! It really STINKS WERNER ! STINKS BAD
wake up

Calumet City, IL

#10 Dec 8, 2012
No to Mayor wrote:
The Powers that be think they can dictate to us regardless of our thoughts or ideas that's why they don't included items they feel may have contrary opinions from the residents ! Example's include : French Market , Sticker Elimination and until Labriola forced them to hold meeting the Electrical Aggregation ! They do to much behind the scene's and I'm sure they think that's fine ? Also how do they use our TAX DOLLARS to promote WERNERS PRIVATE CHARITY ? It's ridiculous they do this using Employees,phones,cable and on Village ( out time )! WERNER then gets up at OUR VILLAGE BOARD MEETING and makes a BIG SHOW out of giving out HIS checks to local Charities ( they are excellent charities and its not their fault )! WERNER uses OUR TAX MONEY to promote himself and that's WRONG ! Then look at the comfortable arrangement he has with a Village Employees dad and WERNERS EMPLOYER ( Blue Island ) who allows him to drive HIS PERSONAL TRUCK which has no Blue Island Markings to work and that WERNER has his own business just outside Blue Island ( WOW ) and WERNER is often seen during work hours here in Mokena ( WOW ), he says he does it to save Blue Island money ? Hey WERNER instead of Eliminating the Stickers to save money you should allow our Village Employees to drive their personal vehicles ( without Mokena Markings ) to save us Money ! It really STINKS WERNER ! STINKS BAD
one guy runs the village and it's not werner. werner is nothing more than a tie-breaker and figurehead. get with it!
No to Mayor

New Lenox, IL

#11 Dec 8, 2012
I know exactly what your saying ! TIME AND PLACE , TIME AND PLACE. There's much to discuss and expose , it's coming ! Thanks
Curious

Calumet City, IL

#12 Dec 8, 2012
wake up wrote:
<quoted text>one guy runs the village and it's not werner. werner is nothing more than a tie-breaker and figurehead. get with it!
Who runs the village, if not Werner?
No to Mayor

New Lenox, IL

#13 Dec 8, 2012
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Who runs the village, if not Werner?
The guys with " THE GOLDEN PARACHUTE " Down's !
Election Ploy Blocker

New Lenox, IL

#14 Dec 10, 2012
irondale guy wrote:
The mokena messenger is running a poll on line on the vehicle sticker issue.It's not as popular as the powers that be thought it would be.
It might come back to bite them in the rear end.
You are so correct with your assessment , with our miserable economic development situation the $125,000 they threw away could have been kept in a rainy day fund if things don't get better. It's like a kid who found some money on the sidewalk and can't wait to spend it !
Conservative Fiscal Policy ? No ELECTION PLOY !
Election Ploy Blocker

New Lenox, IL

#15 Dec 10, 2012
irondale guy wrote:
John Sanchez can out Write just about anybody.Bravo John keep up the good work.
You raise the bar on this blog.
Sanchez does make sense and presents it so eloquently !
John Sanchez

Naperville, IL

#16 Dec 15, 2012
The tragedy in Connecticut shows us what we may expect to see if we allow crazy people to have guns, and we are beginning to see it on an almost weekly basis.

This incident, however, should cut it, at long last. When a heart that is cold enough to quench the hell it deserves senselessly slaughters so many children who were barely old enough to be in school, the excuses are way past run out. If, after this unspeakably cruel massacre of innocents, politicians cannot steel their spines to do what is required, they are of no use to a civil society. These deaths are not an acceptable price to be paid for freedom. Measures to prevent them are the much less onerous price to be paid for freedom.

Further, if the fascist rot that has been eating away the brains of Wayne LaPierre, Chris Cox, and the thirty percent of like minded NRA membership had not already completed its work, the NRA leadership would be serving its members by proposing legislation to prevent these terror incidents, and working with organizations like the Brady campaign rather than thwarting them. Instead, the NRA promotes the placement of brain-damaged morons like Ted Nugent to serve on their board of directors. The developments following this terror crime should finally illustrate in stark terms that what they have been doing is to work against the interests of the seventy percent of NRA members who support sensible gun regulation.

We must also see to it that legislation like the insane "stand your ground" laws promoted by the American Legislative Exchange Council, and supported by concealed carry laws in so many states are reversed, and the blame for them is clearly placed on their right wing and corporate supporters who wish to see American society torn down to be remade in a fascist image.

The "gun show exception" that allows forty percent of weapons sales to pass without background checks must end. Thorough background checks are a necessity, not an encumbrance. It is those people who need to have quick access to firearms that we should be most concerned about. The solution is to ban gun sales at these shows, and replace them with gun exchanges, conducted by licensed dealers, where private parties wishing to sell a gun can offer it for sale on the exchange, where the dealer can make the sale and arrange to conduct the required background checks for a nominal fee that is added to the seller's price.

These incidents are not something that we have been living with since the Second Amendment was written. These are the modern result of perversions of the view of "freedom" which are clearly meant as a freedom to be murdered as much as anything else. If we cannot return to the good sense regulation, concerning guns, and in many other areas of our social and commercial life, and reject the nonsensical concepts of libertarian "freedom", this experiment in governing a society will have ended in failure.
No to Mayor

New Lenox, IL

#17 Dec 15, 2012
Wrong time to talk about this Mr Sanchez ! Not now , God Bless those Poor Families !
No to Mayor

New Lenox, IL

#18 Dec 15, 2012
As a Father I cannot imagine the Pain these families are experiencing and I carry a very heavy Heart !
reader

Calumet City, IL

#19 Dec 16, 2012
John Sanchez wrote:
The tragedy in Connecticut shows us what we may expect to see if we allow crazy people to have guns, and we are beginning to see it on an almost weekly basis.
This incident, however, should cut it, at long last. When a heart that is cold enough to quench the hell it deserves senselessly slaughters so many children who were barely old enough to be in school, the excuses are way past run out. If, after this unspeakably cruel massacre of innocents, politicians cannot steel their spines to do what is required, they are of no use to a civil society. These deaths are not an acceptable price to be paid for freedom. Measures to prevent them are the much less onerous price to be paid for freedom.
Further, if the fascist rot that has been eating away the brains of Wayne LaPierre, Chris Cox, and the thirty percent of like minded NRA membership had not already completed its work, the NRA leadership would be serving its members by proposing legislation to prevent these terror incidents, and working with organizations like the Brady campaign rather than thwarting them. Instead, the NRA promotes the placement of brain-damaged morons like Ted Nugent to serve on their board of directors. The developments following this terror crime should finally illustrate in stark terms that what they have been doing is to work against the interests of the seventy percent of NRA members who support sensible gun regulation.
We must also see to it that legislation like the insane "stand your ground" laws promoted by the American Legislative Exchange Council, and supported by concealed carry laws in so many states are reversed, and the blame for them is clearly placed on their right wing and corporate supporters who wish to see American society torn down to be remade in a fascist image.
The "gun show exception" that allows forty percent of weapons sales to pass without background checks must end. Thorough background checks are a necessity, not an encumbrance. It is those people who need to have quick access to firearms that we should be most concerned about. The solution is to ban gun sales at these shows, and replace them with gun exchanges, conducted by licensed dealers, where private parties wishing to sell a gun can offer it for sale on the exchange, where the dealer can make the sale and arrange to conduct the required background checks for a nominal fee that is added to the seller's price.
These incidents are not something that we have been living with since the Second Amendment was written. These are the modern result of perversions of the view of "freedom" which are clearly meant as a freedom to be murdered as much as anything else. If we cannot return to the good sense regulation, concerning guns, and in many other areas of our social and commercial life, and reject the nonsensical concepts of libertarian "freedom", this experiment in governing a society will have ended in failure.
sanchez, do you ever stop babbling? this is a tragedy in our country. give us all a break.
John Sanchez

Naperville, IL

#20 Dec 17, 2012
reader wrote:
<quoted text>sanchez, do you ever stop babbling? this is a tragedy in our country. give us all a break.
No, I never stop babbling, especially to those folks who believe that simply covering their eyes, or burying their head in the sand will make it all go away. Those are the people who have much too high a tolerance for these sorts of events, since by now, they have to understand that meekly avoiding any preventive action does nothing to avoid their next opportunity to cover their eyes, or bury their heads in the sand.

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