So we (Midlothian) own the Chrysler property

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“26 year Midlo resident”

Since: Feb 09

Wichita, Kansas

#1 Feb 21, 2013
Or at least in a day or so we will. I heard last nite we (the mayor) will be signing on the dotted line although are they still dotted?

Now other than a water tower I have not heard any realistic plans for this property. I hope there is. My worry is it has been empty for over 4 years. So now say it sits empty for a few more we are paying the taxes. By the looks of my tax bill it should be a fair amount.

So I hope something happens there. But we know what hope has gotten us so far.
Randi

Memphis, TN

#2 Feb 21, 2013
I feel ya, Midlo resident.

Is this really the best location for a water tower? I'm new to the area, but seems the location is prime for a business to one day bring revenue back into the community. A water tower destroys that potential... not to mention the desire for anyone to ever inhabit and pay taxes on the increasingly vacant homes located behind it. Lose, lose, no? An eye sore as is, but this decision seems far worse, ultimately.
just me

United States

#3 Feb 21, 2013
Will the water tower say link card accepted here
Fed Up

Chicago, IL

#4 Feb 21, 2013
Right on, Randi. A water tower on prime commercial real estate is the dumbest idea. As far as I know, a water tower does not generate tax revenue (then again, neither does a vacant lot). If Midlothian really wants or needs a water tower, why don't they find some land on Clair Blvd next to the I294 and advertise there? Cicero is the only real potential commercial corridor we have as 147th is mainly residential. What about the area on Pulaski North of KFC that should still be visible from 294?
Tommy

Midlothian, IL

#5 Feb 22, 2013
That location is logical for a water tower because it's the highest point in the village. This means that the water would flow using gravity and would not require electricity to pump the water (like they use now.) Now, if the pumps fail, Midlothian would have a boil order because backflow could cause contamination.

Regarding revenue, water towers are often used to advertise, or to house antennae of varying types for radio or internet connectivity. Some are even used as cell towers. Any of those would generate revenue for the village. It might not be as much as a business (depending on the business, I guess) but it's not wasted money. There would be ROI in the lack of electricity to drive the pumps alone; anything else would be gravy.

Lastly, putting the water tower on that lot only requires a small segment of the land on that corner. The rest of it could still be used for business.

Anyway, I heard that somewhere.

Since: Apr 09

Midlothian, IL

#6 Feb 22, 2013
I've heard the same as Tommy. It won't take up a lot of space, and it is a good spot logistically. Plus as Tommy said, it will pressurize the system and prevent boil orders in the event a pump fails.
Informed Poster

Midlothian, IL

#7 Mar 12, 2013
Once the property is owned by the village the property is taken off the tax roles. The village will make a final property tax payment, and that money is in a separate account, and was received as a credit at the time of the close on the property.

If you come to the village board or committee meetings you would know that Culvers has signed a letter of intent to purchase a parcel of property of the 9 acres. Part of the south property will be used as a home for the water tower, there will be a second out lot, and another local business wants to purchase the back parcel of property north of 145th st. The purchase prices of the two parcels cover over 1/2 of the price paid for the property.

Also on the north half, there will be a detention pond. This is mainly for the south half of the property where the larger strip mall would go, with the major anchor, along with two to three out-lots.

The property is going to be put into a TIFF district so the Village can recoup the cost of the property and the water tower, when the main development occurs on the south property. The village can use the south property to negotiate a deal to get the old arrow property and part of the north parcel to a developer to put a larger store (hence the retention pond on the north of 145th property).

This is all public knowledge. If you ask the village manager, the mayor, the village attorney, or any of the trustees about this, or GASP come to a village board or committee meeting, you would actually know these things. They have been openly discussed for the public to know about, and to learn about.

As for the highest point in the village, it's actually not. It is about only 10 feet lower than the ground the country club had. BTW the country club wanted over 300K for a 100X100 parcel of land, the nine acres of land on Cicero cost 950K. Chrysler was marketing the property for 4.25M.

The water tower will evenly distribute pressure to the system, eliminating the need for the pumps to be running all of the time.

Also with the TIFF, any revenue received will go back to the water bond fund, so we can repair more 65 year old water main's.

I don't know, a free water tower (eventually), the village with the power now to bring a development to 147th and Cicero faster because of this property, sounds like a no-brainer to me.
Randi

Memphis, TN

#8 Mar 13, 2013
Fed Up and I attended the 2/27 meeting - we posted prior to that meeting. Thanks. Hope all goes as planned!

Wasn't it mentioned that the Country Club gave Midlo land for the water tower, but Midlo failed to develop in the allotted time frame?... so any monies spent on that effort = wasted errr added to our 950k debt. BUMMER.

Side note: I'd like to see village board meetings posted to the Midlothian website Events Calendar. Luncheons and holidays (like the TWO village hall vacation days for Presidents Day... Sweet!) are displayed, but never board meetings. I think more would be in attendance if information on when and where to glean further information was posted.

“26 year Midlo resident”

Since: Feb 09

Wichita, Kansas

#9 Mar 14, 2013
I do not have a problem with the water tower. Seems it is needed. And if someday there is development there. I emphasize someday it would actually be necessary.

I do wonder why the committee and board meeting are not listed on the calendar. I think I well send an email to Allen since it seems I have heard he is involved with the web site.
Randi

Memphis, TN

#10 Mar 14, 2013
Cool, Midlo. Seems a simple task that would encourage community involvement. As a new resident, I looked to the website and only found past meetings (minutes) - not upcoming, when and where.
Randi

Memphis, TN

#11 Apr 15, 2013
Midlo, I'll assume you made it happen - committee and board meetings are now posted on the Midlothian website calendar :)

“26 year Midlo resident”

Since: Feb 09

Wichita, Kansas

#12 Apr 15, 2013
Yes I sent an email to Alan Moskal and he said he would look into it. I saw both are now listed. I should send him a thank you.

“26 year Midlo resident”

Since: Feb 09

Wichita, Kansas

#13 Apr 15, 2013
Just sent him one.

Since: Mar 11

Midlothian, IL

#14 Apr 15, 2013
Thanks for following up on getting the meetings posted on the website. I had also contacted Allen Moskal a couple of months ago regarding a concern I had and he took care of it pretty quickly. I hope you remember that he responded to your concern promptly as well.

Since: Mar 09

midlothian

#15 Apr 21, 2013
Tommy wrote:
That location is logical for a water tower because it's the highest point in the village. This means that the water would flow using gravity and would not require electricity to pump the water (like they use now.) Now, if the pumps fail, Midlothian would have a boil order because backflow could cause contamination.
Regarding revenue, water towers are often used to advertise, or to house antennae of varying types for radio or internet connectivity. Some are even used as cell towers. Any of those would generate revenue for the village. It might not be as much as a business (depending on the business, I guess) but it's not wasted money. There would be ROI in the lack of electricity to drive the pumps alone; anything else would be gravy.
Lastly, putting the water tower on that lot only requires a small segment of the land on that corner. The rest of it could still be used for business.
Anyway, I heard that somewhere.
Tommy not to disprove your point on it being the highest point in town just look south on Cicero that's a hill you're looking up look at the west side of the lot it's higher that the east
That the same argument Raday used about placement of the Cable antenna on property he owned at A J Smith
149th is about 30 higher that 147th on ciero
More of Terry's B.S.
Remember 4 years ago the water tower was to be place on the north side of the country club
Remember the discussion was about pressure being lost if there was a fire - until the truth came out - different systems for fire protection
Now no boil you still need power to pump the water up into the tower - gravity will bring it down but it till has to get up
Alsip Lover

Chicago, IL

#16 Apr 21, 2013
Water Tower is not such a bad idea.... I mean now everyone passing through will be reassured that the scums running your town are no longer selling contaminated water to its beloved residents.

Crestwood and Robbins had an un wanted love child and they named it Midlothian

“26 year Midlo resident”

Since: Feb 09

Wichita, Kansas

#17 Apr 22, 2013
Alsip Lover wrote:
Water Tower is not such a bad idea.... I mean now everyone passing through will be reassured that the scums running your town are no longer selling contaminated water to its beloved residents.
Crestwood and Robbins had an un wanted love child and they named it Midlothian
Could respond to this but it so out there what would be the point.
Alsip Love

Rockford, IL

#18 Apr 22, 2013
Midlo resident wrote:
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Could respond to this but it so out there what would be the point.
That was a response douche
RTE249

Blue Island, IL

#19 Apr 22, 2013
pnt_man, Have to disagree with your last point. There is no separate system for fire suppression. All the water comes from the same line. As a former Firefighter I can vouch for the pressure drop when you get to the Central Av area. When we tested the hydrants in that area, if we opened 1 water would hardly come out the second, and if someone in one of the houses was using water they would lose it.

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