the Defeat of Home Rule in BI

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happy in BI

Chicago, IL

#1 Nov 4, 2010
Don,

The reason home rule failed is because the voters saw it for what it was: A scheme by your administration to pick their pockets. This referendum had nothing to do with "crime free housing" or "self determination" or even the efforts of Carmine Bilotto.
It had everything to do with you wanting to raise taxes without the consent of the voters and the people of BI seeing right through it.

In today's SouthTown Star:

BY STEVE METSCH
Blue Island Mayor Don Peloquin sighed deeply when asked about Tuesday's election returns.

"We got killed," he said.

City officials had placed a referendum question on the ballot seeking home rule powers, but it was soundly defeated. Residents voted against the measure 3,050 to 1,328, according to unofficial totals from the Cook County clerk's office.

Home rule allows municipalities a broader range of powers, such as being able to sell bonds or increase taxes without voters' approval. It could have been a vehicle to create extra income for the city, the mayor said.

"It's back to Square One. We'll keep plugging along, keep looking at other ways to do things," Peloquin said.

At this point, he's not sure how the city will find the money it needs.

Tardy payments of tax money from the state and county have not helped, but Peloquin said the city will meet its payroll. Last month, the city had to arrange to short all employees' paychecks by 50 percent for one payroll period and promise to cover the shortage by the end of the year.

Peloquin hopes a South Suburban Mayors and Managers Association plan to help communities borrow money at low interest rates will offer help soon.

When Blue Island last sought to gain home rule powers, in 2005, it lost by a much smaller margin: about 300 votes.

In hindsight, Peloquin said the city perhaps should have worked harder this time.

"It's a situation of we didn't put the effort in we should have to educate the people, but even if we had, with what's going on (Tuesday) throughout the country ... " Peloquin said. "The margin (of defeat) surprised me at first, but now, as I look at what's going on, I'm not surprised any more. There's just mass negativity out there."

Communities need home rule, he said, "to control their own destiny."

He was not pleased to see anti-home rule literature being distributed Tuesday by some opponents. Peloquin said city Treasurer Carmine Bilotto campaigned against home rule, a charge strongly denied by Bilotto on Wednesday.

"I was standing in front of my precinct. I've been a Democratic captain for 25 or 30 years, and people asked my opinion.'Hey, Carm, what do you think?' I never told anyone how to vote. That's a personal thing," Bilotto said. "It's up to the person. I may have my own personal thing, but I sit (in city government) with Mr. Peloquin, I ran (for election) with Mr. Peloquin."

However, Bilotto said, "Home rule won't solve everything," noting other cities with home rule need financial assistance.

"What I'm hoping for is the state and county to open their eyes and pay the money they owe the city," he said.
straight talk

Girard, OH

#2 Nov 4, 2010
I will campaign my ass off come next april to defeat every single incumbant alderperson that had vote yes signs in their yards!
Plasma Arc

Niles, MI

#3 Nov 4, 2010
straight talk wrote:
I will campaign my ass off come next april to defeat every single incumbant alderperson that had vote yes signs in their yards!
I'm with you.
Haha

Chicago, IL

#4 Nov 4, 2010
Straight talk who the fu** are u to think u ould run for a elected position? Gary z is this u?
fiftyone

Chicago, IL

#5 Nov 4, 2010
Haha wrote:
Straight talk who the fu** are u to think u ould run for a elected position? Gary z is this u?
Who are you to say that he couldnt???
sour grapes? if you could talk about our mayor on his MERITS,
we would not be having this discussion.
last time i checked we live in the United States of America.
not peloquinville.
how dare thee knock, you must not enter?
most folks in blue island ARE disgusted by current city management.
and why wouldnt we??? with werner, and the incenerator and team peloquins inability to speak truthfully about ANY issue.

my friend strait made a big difference and has integrity.
this IS obviously a huge leap from current governance.

at the minimum he understands that elected officials SHOULD ALWAYS BE CUSTODIANS of those who place trust with a vote.
somthing team peloquin FAILS to remember.

he has the intelligence, some real positive ideas and the work ethic to help this city in ANY capacity he chooses.

i look forward to working in the effort to make BLUE ISLAND the great town it can be, a place we can once again be proud to call HOME.

ask me how. id love to tell you.
fiftyone

Chicago, IL

#6 Nov 4, 2010
happy in BI wrote:
Don,
The reason home rule failed is because the voters saw it for what it was: A scheme by your administration to pick their pockets. This referendum had nothing to do with "crime free housing" or "self determination" or even the efforts of Carmine Bilotto.
It had everything to do with you wanting to raise taxes without the consent of the voters and the people of BI seeing right through it.
In today's SouthTown Star:
BY STEVE METSCH
Blue Island Mayor Don Peloquin sighed deeply when asked about Tuesday's election returns.
"We got killed," he said.
City officials had placed a referendum question on the ballot seeking home rule powers, but it was soundly defeated. Residents voted against the measure 3,050 to 1,328, according to unofficial totals from the Cook County clerk's office.
Home rule allows municipalities a broader range of powers, such as being able to sell bonds or increase taxes without voters' approval. It could have been a vehicle to create extra income for the city, the mayor said.
"It's back to Square One. We'll keep plugging along, keep looking at other ways to do things," Peloquin said.
At this point, he's not sure how the city will find the money it needs.
Tardy payments of tax money from the state and county have not helped, but Peloquin said the city will meet its payroll. Last month, the city had to arrange to short all employees' paychecks by 50 percent for one payroll period and promise to cover the shortage by the end of the year.
Peloquin hopes a South Suburban Mayors and Managers Association plan to help communities borrow money at low interest rates will offer help soon.
When Blue Island last sought to gain home rule powers, in 2005, it lost by a much smaller margin: about 300 votes.
In hindsight, Peloquin said the city perhaps should have worked harder this time.
"It's a situation of we didn't put the effort in we should have to educate the people, but even if we had, with what's going on (Tuesday) throughout the country ... " Peloquin said. "The margin (of defeat) surprised me at first, but now, as I look at what's going on, I'm not surprised any more. There's just mass negativity out there."
Communities need home rule, he said, "to control their own destiny."
He was not pleased to see anti-home rule literature being distributed Tuesday by some opponents. Peloquin said city Treasurer Carmine Bilotto campaigned against home rule, a charge strongly denied by Bilotto on Wednesday.
"I was standing in front of my precinct. I've been a Democratic captain for 25 or 30 years, and people asked my opinion.'Hey, Carm, what do you think?' I never told anyone how to vote. That's a personal thing," Bilotto said. "It's up to the person. I may have my own personal thing, but I sit (in city government) with Mr. Peloquin, I ran (for election) with Mr. Peloquin."
However, Bilotto said, "Home rule won't solve everything," noting other cities with home rule need financial assistance.
"What I'm hoping for is the state and county to open their eyes and pay the money they owe the city," he said.
thank you steve for putting the truth out there.
straight talk

Girard, OH

#7 Nov 4, 2010
Haha wrote:
Straight talk who the fu** are u to think u ould run for a elected position? Gary z is this u?
Straight is not interested in an elected position. Straight just wants the Peloquin puppets out. Like you!
in BI

Chicago, IL

#8 Nov 4, 2010
Next spring will be the time make those aldermen who supported home rule to fight for their political lives.
iheartBI

Romeoville, IL

#9 Nov 4, 2010
How?
fiftyone wrote:
<quoted text>
Who are you to say that he couldnt???
sour grapes? if you could talk about our mayor on his MERITS,
we would not be having this discussion.
last time i checked we live in the United States of America.
not peloquinville.
how dare thee knock, you must not enter?
most folks in blue island ARE disgusted by current city management.
and why wouldnt we??? with werner, and the incenerator and team peloquins inability to speak truthfully about ANY issue.
my friend strait made a big difference and has integrity.
this IS obviously a huge leap from current governance.
at the minimum he understands that elected officials SHOULD ALWAYS BE CUSTODIANS of those who place trust with a vote.
somthing team peloquin FAILS to remember.
he has the intelligence, some real positive ideas and the work ethic to help this city in ANY capacity he chooses.
i look forward to working in the effort to make BLUE ISLAND the great town it can be, a place we can once again be proud to call HOME.
ask me how. id love to tell you.
Carol

Saint Joseph, MI

#10 Nov 4, 2010
Reverse mortgaging low to moderate income municipalities like Blue Island only makes sense when you want to destroy them.

Blue Island should not be stripped of all assets by any mayor!
fiftyone

Chicago, IL

#11 Nov 4, 2010
iheartBI wrote:
How?
<quoted text>
a good start would be to rescind werners contract.

the idea that werner be paid one salary to preform 2 jobs should be expounded upon...only with empolyees who have 40 plus hours available to work.

department employees could be made to crossfunction, where they would handle a need in another department.

trim fire department heads, cut down to 1 chief who would also act as a responder.

switch back to a residentcy requirement for all B.I. city employees.
this would alleviate some of the empty houses in town,
increase the tax base and promote city growth.
residentcy requirement would enable the city to make necessary lay-offs to allow B.I. to make payroll.
having all fire responders living in town, B.I. would be more able to switch responders to some higher level of 'on call' status.
residentcy requirement would give city employees an invested interest in their community.

we could achieve this by putting it forth for vote on the next election.
Carol

AOL

#12 Nov 4, 2010
Blue Island has always had a spending problem; not a revenue problem.
LARAZA

Chicago, IL

#13 Nov 5, 2010
Carol wrote:
Blue Island has always had a spending problem; not a revenue problem.
It also has problems with certain citizens who have an agenda against the Hispanic population and some of it's most prominent oldest families. Right Carol? We Hispanics will fight tooth & nail if ever disrespect is aimed at one of our own again. Comprende? This has NOTHING to do with Peloquin...but with certain so-called activists who have consistently shown us disregard. We know who they are & we Mexican's do not forget or forgive. We have sat back & watched the 3 ring Circus between the activists & Peloquin. Now we will make our move. It will be silent & slow and may take a little time but it will happen.
nope

Chicago, IL

#14 Nov 5, 2010
LARAZA wrote:
<quoted text>
It also has problems with certain citizens who have an agenda against the Hispanic population and some of it's most prominent oldest families. Right Carol? We Hispanics will fight tooth & nail if ever disrespect is aimed at one of our own again. Comprende? This has NOTHING to do with Peloquin...but with certain so-called activists who have consistently shown us disregard. We know who they are & we Mexican's do not forget or forgive. We have sat back & watched the 3 ring Circus between the activists & Peloquin. Now we will make our move. It will be silent & slow and may take a little time but it will happen.
Speaking of disrespect, didn't Domingo Vargas support home rule? It's nice to know that we have a "proud Hispanic" who is who willing to kiss the white mayor's butt.
Plasma Arc

Niles, MI

#15 Nov 5, 2010
nope wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of disrespect, didn't Domingo Vargas support home rule? It's nice to know that we have a "proud Hispanic" who is who willing to kiss the white mayor's butt.
He also supports the plasma push which if ever built wouldn't be good for his singing voice.

The divisiveness expressed by La Raza will do nothing for BI. Come together people this isn't an Hispanic, white, or black thing, this is a Blue island thing. From my perspective, if you want to be divided along racial lines the council people representing you are doing a poor job; unless you think that a new mural is enough.

What have the 'hispanic' council people done to rid BI of its problem police officers?

Don't buy into the racial nonsense, it only serves to divide us.
Nope

Alsip, IL

#16 Nov 5, 2010
LARAZA wrote:
<quoted text>
It also has problems with certain citizens who have an agenda against the Hispanic population and some of it's most prominent oldest families. Right Carol? We Hispanics will fight tooth & nail if ever disrespect is aimed at one of our own again. Comprende? This has NOTHING to do with Peloquin...but with certain so-called activists who have consistently shown us disregard. We know who they are & we Mexican's do not forget or forgive. We have sat back & watched the 3 ring Circus between the activists & Peloquin. Now we will make our move. It will be silent & slow and may take a little time but it will happen.
Why don't you start with the Beautiful Mexican Mural at Western avenue and Broadway. You have been given a message and what do you do, you ignore it.
Carol

AOL

#17 Nov 5, 2010
LARAZA wrote:
<quoted text>
It also has problems with certain citizens who have an agenda against the Hispanic population and some of it's most prominent oldest families. Right Carol? We Hispanics will fight tooth & nail if ever disrespect is aimed at one of our own again. Comprende? This has NOTHING to do with Peloquin...but with certain so-called activists who have consistently shown us disregard. We know who they are & we Mexican's do not forget or forgive. We have sat back & watched the 3 ring Circus between the activists & Peloquin. Now we will make our move. It will be silent & slow and may take a little time but it will happen.
Why is it I never see you at any of the proud Hispanic gatherings in and around Blue Island; are you not invited or do you refuse to participate? I would love to see you get involved.
concerned

United States

#18 Nov 8, 2010
Home rule only works in certain aspects Like for instance if the people who are supposed to enforce the ordinances do.....all I keep hearing is how home rule let's those who enforce ordinances prosecute....it doesn't happen now why do you need another set of rules for people to do their jobs?

Also, after the incident at the pool this summer does anyone trust any city employee elected or hired to make smart rational decisions? A man found dead in a pool and the pool is open within 2 hours???? Nobody still to my knowledge knows the truth about the incidents that occurred that night. an 85 page police report issued but a possible crime scene searched within two hours?

I find that when people trust their government they are then more likely to give that government more power. Maybe more informed voters in the next aldermanic and mayoral elections are needed. Not to mention a plausible candidate this time to run agsinst peloquin.
BI Love

Gary, IN

#19 Nov 9, 2010
Thank God it was defeated!!
fiftyone

Chicago, IL

#20 Nov 9, 2010
fiftyone wrote:
<quoted text>
a good start would be to rescind werners contract.
the idea that werner be paid one salary to preform 2 jobs should be expounded upon...only with empolyees who have 40 plus hours available to work.
department employees could be made to crossfunction, where they would handle a need in another department.
trim fire department heads, cut down to 1 chief who would also act as a responder.
switch back to a residentcy requirement for all B.I. city employees.
this would alleviate some of the empty houses in town,
increase the tax base and promote city growth.
residentcy requirement would enable the city to make necessary lay-offs to allow B.I. to make payroll.
having all fire responders living in town, B.I. would be more able to switch responders to some higher level of 'on call' status.
residentcy requirement would give city employees an invested interest in their community.
we could achieve this by putting it forth for vote on the next election.
police would know and care about what was going on in THEIR neighborhood. residentcy requirement could curb gang activity as evidenced in mt. greenwood neighborhood.

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