Palin likens global warming studies t...

Palin likens global warming studies to 'snake oil'

There are 363 comments on the Sacramento Bee Newspaper story from Feb 9, 2010, titled Palin likens global warming studies to 'snake oil'. In it, Sacramento Bee Newspaper reports that:

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called studies supporting global climate change a "bunch of snake oil science" Monday during a rare appearance in California, a state that has been at the forefront of environmental regulations.

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PHD

Cibolo, TX

#250 Jan 23, 2013
More endless cut and paste scientific science fiction babble. Will it ever end?
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#251 Jan 23, 2013
phud fetid feces face fiend wrote:
babble. Will it ever end?
"phud fetid feces face fiend" continues to spell 'babble' correctly, one of the few words he can spell properly.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#252 Jan 23, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
"phud fetid feces face fiend" continues to spell 'babble' correctly, one of the few words he can spell properly.
And you think topix doesn’t know what you publish? Attacks on me won't delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#253 Jan 23, 2013
[QUOTE who='phud fetid feces face fiend']And you think topix.....[/QUOTE]

bobbotize it.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#254 Jan 23, 2013
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#255 Jan 23, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
As 'phud fetid feces face fiend' would say,'Follow the fetid feces money'.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#256 Jan 24, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
As 'phud fetid feces face fiend' would say,'Follow the fetid feces money'.
And you think topix doesn’t know what you publish? Attacks on me won't delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#257 Jan 25, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
The American Association for the Advancement of Science is for people interested in science. Obviously a topic you know or care nothing about.
<quoted text>
Actually NASA and all the other climatology agencies, and also all the collegial studies at MIT, Harvard, and the like.
<quoted text>
The only SCAM is "Climategate" - every single investigation has cleared the scientists.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/08...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/30/tec...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm... -
cleared-in-inquiry-again
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/ju...
<quoted text>
Looks like **YOU** are a fan of right wing ideological clap trap.
Ever considered reading a science or mainstream source, instead of staying in your right wing bubble?
Then why are they spending most of their time chatting away with Congressman and Senators instead of doing science.

As for Climategate the only investigation you seem to be quoting was more of a whitewash given how many liberals and labour party members were on it. All your links on the subject refer to the same 14 member panel which was for one day.

What this is really about is that hearing the truth upsets you. Hearing that climate change is and always has been natural is upsetting to your world view. You want it, need it to be the result of man and that if man left it alone the climate would not change. The fact that it has never in the entire history of the universe is upsetting to you.

As for the comment about, "Ever considered reading a science or mainstream source, instead of staying in your right wing bubble?" Have you ever considered reading the actual science instead of the left wing sources like Wikipedia entries from Connonelly or the failed physics major at skepticalscience. A source based on sceince instead of politics. Try EBSCO or Gale although there are others. Not a two page article in a magazine like Scientific America or Popular Science but actual studies.

Also there are many studies by NASA, MIT, and others that disagree with man made climate change.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#258 Jan 25, 2013
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why are they spending most of their time chatting away with Congressman and Senators instead of doing science.
Proof?
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>

As for Climategate the only investigation you seem to be quoting was more of a whitewash given how many liberals and labour party members were on it. All your links on the subject refer to the same 14 member panel which was for one day.
Surely you've seen where I've put out the rebuttals showing how the right wing took sentences out of context to distort their meaning.

Let's see, you always ran off. Need to see some examples again?
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>

What this is really about is that hearing the truth upsets you.
/[QUOTE]

Actually, lying is what upsets me. You've proven you are not honest.

[QUOTE who="tina anne"]<quoted text>
Hearing that climate change is and always has been natural is upsetting to your world view. You want it, need it to be the result of man and that if man left it alone the climate would not change. The fact that it has never in the entire history of the universe is upsetting to you.
One example of a lie of yours, is when I asked you to explain why NASA
was "wrong" in their site of evidence.

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence

You wouldn't reply to the substance, you simply put out a fat lie that there must be other NASA sites that said the opposite.

You put out some bad articles I proved were rebutted and CHALLENGED you to find me a NASA website, with their authentic logo that showed they didn't hold global warming was their official views.

You ran off, and keep playing these little games with words.

Telling, no????
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
As for the comment about, "Ever considered reading a science or mainstream source, instead of staying in your right wing bubble?" Have you ever considered reading the actual science instead of the left wing sources like Wikipedia entries from Connonelly or the failed physics major at skepticalscience. A source based on sceince instead of politics. Try EBSCO or Gale although there are others. Not a two page article in a magazine like Scientific America or Popular Science but actual studies.
I give reputable science links all the time. Let's start with that NASA link above.

As for actual studies. I gave you a whole page of those once on CO2 warming. Care to see them again?
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Also there are many studies by NASA, MIT, and others that disagree with man made climate change.
CHALLENGE: HA HA. Then show them. I've debated this on another forum, and know all about this. Lindzen is from MIT, and was strongly rebutted... from NASA.

Spencer was a satellite satellite from NASA, also was disproven from the official NASA climatologists.

Nice try, dearie. You were demure about being paid by the denialists industry. I usually don't go there. But it would explain your lame posts.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#259 Jan 26, 2013
There you have it again folks the dictator wallop10 said I gave you. So the wallop10 dictator’s info is the only stuff out there that is correct. See why the wallop10 post scientific science fiction?

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#260 Jan 26, 2013
Tina says there is ANOTHER NASA site out there that says the opposite as this one -- but runs off when I challenge her where...

Evidence: Climate change: How do we know?

The Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 650,000 years there have been seven cycles of glacial advance and retreat, with the abrupt end of the last ice age about 7,000 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is very likely human-induced and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented in the past 1,300 years.1

Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. Studying these climate data collected over many years reveal the signals of a changing climate.
Certain facts about Earth's climate are not in dispute:

The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century.2Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many JPL-designed instruments, such as AIRS. Increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response.

Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that the Earth’s climate responds to changes in solar output, in the Earth’s orbit, and in greenhouse gas levels. They also show that in the past, large changes in climate have happened very quickly, geologically-speaking: in tens of years, not in millions or even thousands.3
The evidence for rapid climate change is compelling:

• Sea level rise
Global sea level rose about 17 centimeters (6.7 inches) in the last century. The rate in the last decade, however, is nearly double that of the last century.4

• Global temperature rise
All three major global surface temperature reconstructions show that Earth has warmed since 1880.5 Most of this warming has occurred since the 1970s, with the 20 warmest years having occurred since 1981 and with all 10 of the warmest years occurring in the past 12 years.6 Even though the 2000s witnessed a solar output decline resulting in an unusually deep solar minimum in 2007-2009, surface temperatures continue to increase.7

• Warming oceans
The oceans have absorbed much of this increased heat, with the top 700 meters (about 2,300 feet) of ocean showing warming of 0.302 degrees Fahrenheit since 1969.8

• Shrinking ice sheets
The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets have decreased in mass. Data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment show Greenland lost 150 to 250 cubic kilometers (36 to 60 cubic miles) of ice per year between 2002 and 2006, while Antarctica lost about 152 cubic kilometers (36 cubic miles) of ice between 2002 and 2005.

• Declining Arctic sea ice
Both the extent and thickness of Arctic sea ice has declined rapidly over the last several decades.9

• Glacial retreat
Glaciers are retreating almost everywhere around the world — including in the Alps, Himalayas, Andes, Rockies, Alaska and Africa.

• Extreme events
The number of record high temperature events in the United States has been increasing, while the number of record low temperature events has been decreasing, since 1950.

• Ocean acidification
Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the acidity of surface ocean waters has increased by about 30 percent.12,13 This increase is the result of humans emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and hence more being absorbed into the oceans. The amount of carbon dioxide absorbed by the upper layer of the oceans is increasing by about 2 billion tons per year.14,15

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#261 Jan 26, 2013
[QUOTE who="phud fetid feces face fiend."]......you think[/QUOTE]

& "phud fetid feces face fiend" doesn't think, but copies.

"phud fetid feces face fiend",'large lying language', dirtling, & 'brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' are all slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigs. In addition, "phud fetid feces face fiend",'large lying language', & 'brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' are alleged & proud threateners.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#262 Jan 26, 2013
**Organizations that say AGW is a FACT**
U.S. Agency for International Development
United States Department of Agriculture
National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration
National Institute of Standards and Technology
United States Department of Defense
United States Department of Energy
National Institutes of Health
United States Department of State
United States Department of Transportation
U.S. Geological Survey
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Aeronautics & Space Administration
National Science Foundation
Smithsonian Institution
International Arctic Science Committee
Arctic Council
African Academy of Sciences
Australian Academy of Sciences
Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences
and the Arts
Academia Brasileira de Ciéncias
Cameroon Academy of Sciences
Royal Society of Canada
Caribbean Academy of Sciences
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Académie des Sciences, France
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina
of Germany
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Royal Irish Academy
Accademia nazionale delle scienze of Italy
Indian National Science Academy
Science Council of Japan
Kenya National Academy of Sciences
Madagascar's National Academy of Arts,
Letters and Sciences
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
Royal Society of New Zealand
Polish Academy of Sciences
Russian Academy of Sciences
l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques
du Sénégal
Academy of Science of South Africa
Sudan Academy of Sciences
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Tanzania Academy of Sciences
Turkish Academy of Sciences
Uganda National Academy of Sciences
The Royal Society of the United Kingdom
National Academy of Sciences, United States
Zambia Academy of Sciences
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Association for the Advancement
of Science
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American College of Preventive Medicine
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Physics
American Medical Association
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
American Public Health Association
American Quaternary Association
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Society of Agronomy
American Society for Microbiology
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
Botanical Society of America
Crop Science Society of America
Ecological Society of America
Federation of American Scientists
Geological Society of America
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
Natural Science Collections Alliance
Organization of Biological Field Stations
Society of American Foresters
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of Systematic Biologists
Soil Science Society of America
Australian Coral Reef Society
Australian Medical Association
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Engineers Australia
Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies
Geological Society of Australia
British Antarctic Survey
Institute of Biology, UK
Royal Meteorological Society, UK
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
European Science Foundation
International Association for Great Lakes Research
International Union for Quaternary Research
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
World Federation of Public Health Associations
World Health Organization
World Meteorological Organization

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#263 Jan 26, 2013
**Organizations that say AGW is a FRAUD**

American Petroleum Institute
US Chamber of Commerce
National Association of Manufacturers
Competitive Enterprise Institute
Industrial Minerals Association
National Cattlemen's Beef Association
Great Northern Project Development
Rosebud Mining
Massey Energy
Alpha Natural Resources
Southeastern Legal Foundation
Georgia Agribusiness Council
Georgia Motor Trucking Association
Corn Refiners Association
National Association of Home Builders
National Oilseed Processors Association
National Petrochemical and Refiners Association
Western States Petroleum Association
National Agnotology Producers Association
The Astroturfing Consortium

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2013/01/global-w...
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#264 Jan 28, 2013
More useless cut and paste scientific science fiction from the walloped10.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#265 Jan 28, 2013
PHD wrote:
More useless cut and paste scientific science fiction from the walloped10.
LoL. More useless trash from... Penny isn't it. The P stands for Penny...
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#266 Jan 29, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
LoL. More useless trash from... Penny isn't it. The P stands for Penny...
Well it is learned behavior and you are the best at teaching mindless slogans. Thanks. We know you don't get out very often you only believe in scientific science fiction.
Flailer

Placerville, CA

#268 Jan 29, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Well it is learned behavior and you are the best at teaching mindless slogans. Thanks. We know you don't get out very often you only believe in scientific science fiction.
Unless you are going to go around the world every day to check temps and do your own atmospheric research,you will need to quote or "cut and paste"data from other researchers.There is nothing wrong with cut and paste as long as you are not purposely using false information to post or information from questionable sources.You seem to have attacked those on both sides of this debate.You call almost every post "cut and paste"even when it is not.You attack both Tina Anne and Wallop and anyone else with out offering up any counter point at all.You don't offer up your own point of view,instead you opt to childishly attack anyone with an opinion.So....let's hear what your opinion is.Do you have one?Or do you just like to spout off while giving no thought as to what you are trying to get across?
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#269 Jan 29, 2013
Flailer wrote:
<quoted text>Unless you are going to go around the world every day to check temps and do your own atmospheric research,you will need to quote or "cut and paste"data from other researchers.There is nothing wrong with cut and paste as long as you are not purposely using false information to post or information from questionable sources.You seem to have attacked those on both sides of this debate.You call almost every post "cut and paste"even when it is not.You attack both Tina Anne and Wallop and anyone else with out offering up any counter point at all.You don't offer up your own point of view,instead you opt to childishly attack anyone with an opinion.So....let's hear what your opinion is.Do you have one?Or do you just like to spout off while giving no thought as to what you are trying to get across?
No, I said cut and paste useless babble scientific science fiction. Well Tina doesn't agree with that scientific science fiction method as I do. Giving no thought much like you taking an attack without knowing the real facts. As you say they give opinions no facts. I'm not interested in the cut and paste scientific science fiction. The point follow the money trail, all it does is generate money by the scare tactic commonly know as scientific science fiction.
Flailer

United States

#270 Jan 29, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>No, I said cut and paste useless babble scientific science fiction. Well Tina doesn't agree with that scientific science fiction method as I do. Giving no thought much like you taking an attack without knowing the real facts. As you say they give opinions no facts. I'm not interested in the cut and paste scientific science fiction. The point follow the money trail, all it does is generate money by the scare tactic commonly know as scientific science fiction.
Since there are obviously two money trails to follow,which one do you?There are also people claiming to have scientific proof(scientific science fiction) on both sides.Are you as dumb as a box of rocks?Please tell us oh mighty one,which "facts" should we believe?Maybe you could cut and paste some for us.A link is always helpful when fact checking sources.

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