Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 200,985

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#212066 Aug 24, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Give him a little bitch slap for Frankie while you're up there. Tell him I said Hi.
I'll give him your respects...

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“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#212067 Aug 24, 2013
Hey Rock

You might find this interesting.

http://nationalreview.com/article/356220/righ...

Here's an excerpt.

The lack of clarity about polling extends to actual voting behavior as well. In 2010 Patrick Egan, assistant professor of politics and public policy at New York University, compiled ten years of polling data about same-sex marriage in states that had voted on same-sex-marriage ballot initiatives. He found that public-opinion polls consistently underestimated ballot-box opposition to SSM. Egan noted that “the share of voters in pre-election surveys saying they will vote to ban same-sex marriage is typically seven percentage points lower than the actual vote on election day.” Why? Egan doesn’t know.
One might suspect something akin to the Bradley Effect at work in polling on this issue. Los Angeles mayor Tom Bradley, an African American, lost the 1982 California governor’s race despite being consistently ahead in the polls going into the election. Scholarly assessments of why Bradley lost focused on social-desirability bias on the sensitive issue of race. In particular, a minority of white voters was thought to have offered inaccurate polling responses for fear that, if they stated their true preference — which emerged at the ballot box — pollsters would perceive them as racially motivated.

In other words, when sensitive issues are at stake, people may feel pressure to give pollsters answers that sound enlightened, politically correct, or free of any trace of “bigotry”— a term that has reemerged as a club in the debate over same-sex marriage. Egan, however, claims that social-desirability bias is not responsible for the gap between polling and ballot-box results in this case, a gap that remained squarely in place in the May 2012 marriage and civil-union referendum in North Carolina. However, the phenomenon was mostly absent in the four ballot initiatives last November, when the pro-SSM side was likely aided by the ballot initiatives’ being attached to a presidential election.

Other suspects are the words with which survey questions are constructed. When polling organizations include the term “rights” in their question — as do Gallup, USA Today, and CNN/ORC — support for same-sex marriage is elevated: Each found 54 to 55 percent in favor. Survey respondents appear to react positively to words like “rights,”“freedom,” and “benefits,” and negatively to words like “ban.”

Recognizing this, Quinnipiac University’s pollsters stick to a very generic and brief question:“In general, do you support or oppose same-sex marriage?” The last time they asked it, in late April 2013 — about 30 days after the High Court’s twin deliberations — 45 percent of respondents reported support and 47 percent said they opposed. Eight percent were unsure.

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Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#212068 Aug 24, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Perhaps the next a president can be sworn in with his hand on a volcano, or a Big D action figure.
I'm that D will approve of choice B...
"I swear, by the FSM and the D, that I will...."...

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sheesh

Oxon Hill, MD

#212069 Aug 24, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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I'm that D will approve of choice B...
"I swear, by the FSM and the D, that I will...."...
I dunno, FSM looks pretty darn appealing to me:

To outsiders it makes us hard to define, but here are some general things that can be said about our beliefs:
» We believe pirates, the original Pastafarians, were peaceful explorers and it was due to Christian misinformation that they have an image of outcast criminals today
» We are fond of beer
» Every Friday is a Religious Holiday
» We do not take ourselves too seriously
» We embrace contradictions (though in that we are hardly unique)

http://www.venganza.org/about/
Skitters

Monrovia, CA

#212070 Aug 24, 2013
That's skitter to up bub!
Beulah Wangs Retro Punk

Sonoma, CA

#212071 Aug 24, 2013
The Bible say; Turn the page, placed by the Gideons. Yo mama.Do Not Remove from Rom(sic)..then something scribbly I can't make out. Aint that one the whole truth.
Spreading evil

Monrovia, CA

#212072 Aug 24, 2013
The following exhibits the same defective hateful, racist mentality that continues to run the city of Glendora, California.

"You selfishly put your kid outside every day and let him be nothing but a nuisance and a problem to everyone else with that noise polluting whaling he constantly makes

He is a hindrance to everyone and will always be that way!

Who the hell is going to care for him?

No employer will hire him, no normal girl is going to marry/love him and you are not going to live forever!

Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate it to science."

The letter ends with a suggestion, do the right thing and move or euthanize him.

The same hateful mentality that this letter contains is also alive in Glendora, California with it's evil spreading.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#212073 Aug 24, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Oh no, I prefer a free county where any and all religions are equal in the eyes of the law, where Islam, and Scientology, and Christianity, and FSM and Volcano worship and VooDoo are all free and equal, with none above any other.
Like I said, the old USSR was your perfect country. Because here in USA ALL religions are equal in the eyes of the law. What you want is the freedom to brainwash all students that we all came from the puddle of crud and all of a sudden intelligent life came from those chemicals. Now that takes faith.
Gustavo

Harbor City, CA

#212074 Aug 24, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I am a vet as well, and your line has been crossed, it is legal, in more and more states every year, freedom, equality and justice prevailed, America is winning and you are losing.
I understand that you homos have won your battle with part of the government, you don't seem to understand what I am saying to you. The homo cult will suffer in more ways than one as they contiune to win their demands, the heteros won't tollerate taking a piss in public school urinals next to trannies, mark my words! I'm just telling it like it is. It has already become a problem in some schools. Be careful what you wish for
Gustavo

Harbor City, CA

#212075 Aug 24, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Right.
Like the world will end if we allow boys who identify themselves as female to use the girls restrooms.
Fuuck the idea you pay taxes by the way. We all do dumbass. I and many others no doubt pay more than you idiot. As it is I too don't get it but it's not our world to control. If we have a viable population that identifies themselves as being born as the wrong sex then we as a society need to answer to it in a responsible way. You have no clue to this given your ignorant response so kindly piss off punk.
You would gladly pay the taxes because it is benefiting your cause you homo, it's a win win for you. You homos should pay out out of your own wishing well for tranny/homo restroom, why whould an already existing hetero culture who paid our own way pay for yours. Oh bright one ... how much do I pay i taxes FKtard? lol

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#212076 Aug 24, 2013
This tread is just as boring as always.

YAWN

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Gustavo

Harbor City, CA

#212077 Aug 24, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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No one choose to be gay or straight. Your genetic make up is determined at the moment of conception.
I call Bull Shit ... the only thing determined is the sex, after that the individual makes a choice.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#212078 Aug 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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A gender disorder is not a sexual disorder?
Denial gets kind of awkward doesn't it?
Too funny!
I see you are happy to see trans-gendered people eliminated from the earth too!
Priceless!
These are some of the bitch slaps of reality I've been warning you about.
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LOL,
I KNEW the queen twirl would put on a show!
Now you want to separate sexuality from gender? Here we go with the denial quandary. Just like where you had to dumb marriage down to a contract.
But the topper is we both talked only about medical procedures. Only YOU judged mine as murderous. Now you excuse it?
Hypocrite.
When you talk about murdering (your words) gays and lesbians, you are talking about ending a life--making someone disappear.

When I talk about someone who is VOLUNTARILY transitioning (via dress or surgery), no life is lost. A person who WISHES to change their gender so that it equates how they feel inside is completely different from you wishing that homosexuals would be wiped off the face of the planet or that they be involuntarily "cured".

You can't really be this stupid, can you?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#212079 Aug 24, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
This tread is just as boring as always.
YAWN
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Not even Frankie can liven up these dopey jackasses! I do try. They get mad.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#212080 Aug 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I'm just saying, YOU know those dangerous fundies!
Yeah... I'm familiar with a few. Seems like I heard a story about some preacher getting overly involved in one of his parishioner's marriage.

What about you, Kim? Do you have the jewels to come down to Knoxville and do as you believe God commands you to do? It's right there in Leviticus after all. Isn't it your responsibility to go on a so-called Christian jihad against us gays?

Are you man enough to get a little gay blood on your hands?
No Flag

Monrovia, CA

#212081 Aug 24, 2013
Glendora Churches changing bylaws after gay marriage ruling.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#212083 Aug 24, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Yeah... I'm familiar with a few. Seems like I heard a story about some preacher getting overly involved in one of his parishioner's marriage.
What about you, Kim? Do you have the jewels to come down to Knoxville and do as you believe God commands you to do? It's right there in Leviticus after all. Isn't it your responsibility to go on a so-called Christian jihad against us gays?
Are you man enough to get a little gay blood on your hands?
Calm down fruitloops.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#212084 Aug 25, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Perhaps the next a president can be sworn in with his hand on a volcano, or a Big D action figure.
That is a choice, not a regulation

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#212085 Aug 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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A gender disorder is not a sexual disorder?
Denial gets kind of awkward doesn't it?
Too funny!
I see you are happy to see trans-gendered people eliminated from the earth too!
Priceless!
These are some of the bitch slaps of reality I've been warning you about.
<quoted text>
LOL,
I KNEW the queen twirl would put on a show!
Now you want to separate sexuality from gender? Here we go with the denial quandary. Just like where you had to dumb marriage down to a contract.
But the topper is we both talked only about medical procedures. Only YOU judged mine as murderous. Now you excuse it?
Hypocrite.
veryvermilion wrote:
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When you talk about murdering (your words) gays and lesbians, you are talking about ending a life--making someone disappear.
When I talk about someone who is VOLUNTARILY transitioning (via dress or surgery), no life is lost. A person who WISHES to change their gender so that it equates how they feel inside is completely different from you wishing that homosexuals would be wiped off the face of the planet or that they be involuntarily "cured".
You can't really be this stupid, can you?
There you go again with the slander and lies.

Nowhere did I ever advocate murdering GLBT's or involuntarily wiping them off the face of the planet.

In fact, what I did say was that Christians would be the only hope of gays and lesbians!

You really are a shameless liar.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#212087 Aug 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Ah, can't miss inserting another slanderous lie, can you?
Clearly you are unafraid what I might physically do to you. On the other hand, I sincerely hesitate seeing you.
Besides, if I killed you, how could I continue to enjoy sinking the knife of reality into the belly of denial and twisting it with a smirk???
So, you have weighed the option of killing me and decided that you'd rather "continue to enjoy sinking the knife..."

I love it when you show your sociopath side.

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