Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Thanks, but someone who has been married for 36 years, and in love for 18 of those years isn't exactly the type of individual I'd take advice from.
Troll on, Hunty.
Oh yeah!!! Still married here, and your opinions seem to have been powerless to stop that. Pity.
I know, you fell in love.

We call that an accident.

What will you do when you fall out of love? You know accidents can happen both ways.

Just curious, how many committed relationships have you been in?
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KiMare wrote:
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Painful being the key word...
YUK!YUK!YUK! Good one!

"High five!" (VV hates it when we do that, as if he and his dopey sidekicks don't.)

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KiMare wrote:
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So manipulating a contract to establish a counterfeit relationship is
It's not "counterfeit"; that would require a penis and a vagina. It's a SSM, so there are two of the same gender. That's much more original than it is "counterfeit", unless you're Marcus Bachmann, of course, who IS in a "counterfeit" marriage.
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I certainly help the heads-up.
We bet you do fruitcake.

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So manipulating a contract to establish a counterfeit relationship is going to take ss couples from a horrible track record to the best?
Please don't make me hold my breath...
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Yes... I do believe that establishing a legally binding contract will help same-gender relationships.

Were it not for marriage, people would just be hooking up left and right. You've even said so yourself (marriage is a constraint).

And despite no-fault divorces, I still maintain that divorce is emotionally and financially devastating. The negative aspects of divorce from a legal contract help keep couples intact.

Throw in the ceremony; where you stand before God and a group of witnesses--family and friends, and you've got the makings of an actual social structure that encourages couples to remain together.

Marriage will strengthen same-sex couple's relationships. And that can only be good for us and the community.

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If I remember my history well, and I do,
interracial marriages have existed in every culture in human history.
Ss couples being married? Incredibly rare and marginal instances that were often an aberration in the society.
As to the condition of marriage now? You can thank government for the last time they redefined marriage.
Those formal and informal bans on homosexual relationships were clearly established on religious, non-scientific beliefs and understandings about gays and lesbians.

Historical mistreatment of a minority group CANNOT be the basis for continued mistreatment; especially in light of the fact that (now pay particular attention to this) GAYS AND LESBIANS ARE NOT NOW CONISDERED TO BE DISORDERED OR UNNATURAL.

We have collectively learned that the way we viewed homosexuality throughout a great deal of history WAS WRONG!

Other radical shifts in scientific belief include:
--The discovery and acceptance that the world is not flat.
--The discovery and acceptance that the earth is not the center of the universe.
--The discovery and acceptance that illnesses are not related to an invasion of evil spirits or demonic possession.
--The discovery and acceptance that there are core elements that make up the world we live in.
--The discovery of the atom.
--The discovery and acceptance of working within a sterile medical setting to reduce the number of deaths from infections.

I could go on and on, but hopefully, you see my point.

The discovery and acceptance of homosexuality being a natural and normal orientation has been a game-changer in the way that society will forever look at gays and lesbians.

Short of some kind of worldwide, cataclysmic event that destroys all knowledge, we are not going to revisit the issue of homosexuality as being a disorder ever again.

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...Marriage will strengthen same-sex couple's relationships. And that can only be good for us and the community.
Same goes for polygamy. Marriage is good for society. All marriage, even ones you don't like.

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Oh Lord, you must have misread what I wrote. I have never claimed that we invented marriage. We just intend on doing a better job at it.
How? By rejecting half the marital relationship, the wife or the husband?

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Like I said, so many of the same-gender couples who are currently getting married have already been together for years.
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That seems to be the trend.
And same-gender couples who adopt children REALLY want them. You should see the hoops they have to jump through in order to qualify. You tend to appreciate things that you have been denied.
So opposite sex couples who adopt don't REALLY want the children they adopt?
You guys have just gotten sloppy is all. But we'll be happy to let you to follow our lead from now on.
Lead to do what? Husbands reject their wives, and vice versa?
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You need to go watch your Penthouse movie again laughing boy, as much as you wanted to see it, Male on male sex wasn't depicted in it. AGAIN READ!..Learn some real history! Moron.
As always, you're a clueless imbecile unable to read between the lines.

But I don't expect you or any other intestinal groupie to have the basic intelligence of a toddler.

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Vv, claiming identity with other members of society is simply wishful thinking if you are not honest about your distinctions.
The military is in the middle of problems because they deny gender and orientation distinctions. You demand the denial of orientation distinctions in marriage.
Dishonesty and denial creates a wicked bitch slap from reality...
When it comes to denial's wicked bitch slap, you could write a book. You always seem to be right in the middle of it.

Here are the facts...

-- About 14,000 men have reported some kind of male/male unwanted harassment in the U.S. Armed forces. There are some 1.2 million men serving in the U.S. military. This means that just a tad over 1% of the men serving in the military have experienced unwanted male/male harassment.

--There are about 200,000 women serving in the military. Of that number, 12,000 have reported unwanted male/female harassment. That's a full 6% of women who have experienced harassment.

--Based on the figures above, we can pretty much determine that (a) unwanted harassment is a minor problem; especially involving male/male and (b) some men can be real dogs.

--Keep in mind that not all male/male harassment complaints come from heterosexual soldiers. Some of them obviously come from homosexual soldiers who believe they are being sexually harassed by a bunch of homophobic, mouth breathing, knuckle draggers.

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With only 1% male/male sexual harassment charges (some of them being from gay men), there is no major problem.

I'm guessing that the Department of Defense is working to reduce those numbers to as close to zero as possible.

But for some reason, sex and war has gone together for eons. I guess there's something about throwing a bunch of men and women together in highly stressful situations that bring out the worst in them. Not knowing whether you're going to be alive from one day to the next tends to make people rowdy. Politeness goes out the door.

If our country is going insist on going to war, as it has done for the majority of the past century, it's just going to have to learn to live with the fact that their warriors are not angels.

And finally, did you honestly think you could get away with comparing war and marriage? That's like comparing bicycles to bumble bees. They have no connection whatsoever.

Consider your denial bitch slapped...

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How? By rejecting half the marital relationship, the wife or the husband?
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That seems to be the trend.
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So opposite sex couples who adopt don't REALLY want the children they adopt?
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Lead to do what? Husbands reject their wives, and vice versa?
I was comparing same-gender couples who want and seek to adopt children to those heterosexual couples who abort their fetuses, abuse their children, neglect them, and create chaotic and broken homes.

I'm just saying that since gays don't go around making babies that seem to be inconveniences for some straight couples, we're more likely to be better parents.
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I was comparing same-gender couples who want and seek to adopt children to those heterosexual couples who abort their fetuses, abuse their children, neglect them, and create chaotic and broken homes.
I'm just saying that since gays don't go around making babies that seem to be inconveniences for some straight couples, we're more likely to be better parents.
Most bigoted post of the day so far. Congratulations! Nice!

Gay parents GOOD!

Straight parents VERY BAD! They abort. Abuse. Neglect. Create chaos and broken homes.
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The horrific stupidity of the sphincter cruisers...

Rosie O' Stain: Christians are racist, sexist, homophobic, gun-toting, bigoted religious fanatics.

Rational Person: But you support Muslims who are racist, sexist, homophobic, gun-toting, bigoted religious fanatics.

Rosie O' Stain: That's their culture, you have no right to judge them.

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When it comes to denial's wicked bitch slap, you could write a book. You always seem to be right in the middle of it.
Here are the facts...

Consider your denial bitch slapped...
Facts confuse Kimare. Facts are irrelevant to Kimare. It's too hard to troll if you admit that facts define "reality".
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And you are just a moron.
Smile
From an infant like you, your pompous and facile post is amusing...
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Your brain is literally "unintelligent" if you think your posts make any sense.
His intelligence is light years away from yours... You are as an ameoba compared to KiMare...
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Call yourself Frankie and act like a troll - TROLL!
....You don't even rate a mention. How sad for you...
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Apparently I have struck a nerve? Umadbro? LOL, what a trollette.
Apparently, you think that any response means that you are omnipotent. Funny and a little sad. You've struck no nerves, but feel free to make believe, sonnie....
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You are a troll who acts like a 12 year old. I hope that answers your question. Smile.
My question wasn't about you giving a self-appraisal. As I've told you, you're an infant. Find your own schtick, you dweeb.
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So after your little speech about freedom of speech, you tell another poster to "clam up"? What a hypocrite. Typical troll behavior.
Nothing hypocritical about telling a poster to clam up with his "1st Amendment suppression" bullshit. You would know that, if you were a bit more grown-up.

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