Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Reffering

Monrovia, CA

#205100 Jul 27, 2013
Which ban are you refereeing too?

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#205101 Jul 27, 2013
The AssTroll Stopper wrote:
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AssTroll, are you a Dyke or a Fagg@t?
Whoever they are, they are a human being, not a silly label.

Just like you.

Please get help.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#205102 Jul 27, 2013
Inside US, Snowden has at least 66% support when most people call him A HERO AND say it is not constitutional to spy on people.

Outside US, when people are more objective, he has AT LEAST 80% SUPPORT.

NSA is a bad direction by trying to impose as the world police state, which is very wrong and does not make sense in these modern times, but they have no such jurisdiction outside US in policing

If US is the turf of police state AND NSA WERE TO HACK, JUST hack inside US, only.

All they do is to want to know what general public are doing in their private lives by snooping on them.

There are less than 0.00001% terrorists and 2% criminals as they hack all the wrong people wrongly all the time.

So in order to search their objective by randomness, the task is cumbersome to make tedious chaos causing destruction than doing any good.

Terrorists and big criminals have systems that cannot be easily detected as NSA is merely collecting data to expand the database, for that is troubling to world public.

As they don't know and have know-how to catch terrorists and criminals, they hack the universities and many good people and such, which gives a lot of disturbance and harms to people's computers and private lives.

Thus, they can end up acting as criminals to have no such rights to be a world police, while instead, they are so stupid and destructive and hack the wrong people all the time.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#205104 Jul 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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And yet, when a couple maintains their vows, marriage ends up the healthiest and happiest relationship of any.
Thanks, but someone who has been married for 36 years, and in love for 18 of those years isn't exactly the type of individual I'd take advice from.

Troll on, Hunty.

Oh yeah!!! Still married here, and your opinions seem to have been powerless to stop that. Pity.
laughing man

Pulaski, TN

#205105 Jul 27, 2013
Quest wrote:
And gay folks are still legally marrying all over the country, in more states every year, and their marriages are ALL recognized at the federal level.
It's better to simply accept reality.
Plenty of us have accepted that Caligula depends on the lower I.Q. of the Common Man.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#205106 Jul 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Isn't that why you desperately want to hammer a bent rod in a straight hole?
If you knew anything about gay sex, you'd be painfully aware that we're completely avoiding "straight holes".

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#205107 Jul 27, 2013

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205109 Jul 27, 2013
Amy wrote:
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LOL Bigoted Asstroll twirl! Then patting themselves on the back for it! Keep going guys, you're proving to be the old, arrogant pieces of sh*t the I always knew you were.
Too funny, you've done nothing on here but personally assault those you disagree with. The troll is you.

If you don't have a defense for your demands, what are you doing on here? Put up, or shut up honey.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#205110 Jul 27, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Whoever they are, they are a human being, not a silly label.
Just like you.
Please get help.
But you and your angry sidekicks are always screaming "Homophobe!" "Bigot!" "Hater!!"

Whoever they are, they are human beings not a silly label. Just like you.

Please get help.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205112 Jul 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Oh Lord, you must have misread what I wrote. I have never claimed that we invented marriage. We just intend on doing a better job at it.
Like I said, so many of the same-gender couples who are currently getting married have already been together for years. And same-gender couples who adopt children REALLY want them. You should see the hoops they have to jump through in order to qualify. You tend to appreciate things that you have been denied.
You guys have just gotten sloppy is all. But we'll be happy to let you to follow our lead from now on.
So manipulating a contract to establish a counterfeit relationship is going to take ss couples from a horrible track record to the best?

Please don't make me hold my breath...

LOL

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205113 Jul 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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If I remember my history well, and I do, I believe you'll find that interracial couples had to fight for the right to marry. That ban was overturned in 1967 by way of judicial intervention.
As far as your marriage being balanced--hardly. Divorce, domestic violence, child abuse, abortion, parental abandonment... Those things are on YOU.
See, you like to paint the LGBT community with a pretty broad brush, but then freak out if we do the same to you.
I think it's precious when you've bought into your own bullshit rhetoric.
You guys need to take a long, hard look in the mirror. It ain't pretty.
If I remember my history well, and I do,

interracial marriages have existed in every culture in human history.

Ss couples being married? Incredibly rare and marginal instances that were often an aberration in the society.

As to the condition of marriage now? You can thank government for the last time they redefined marriage.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205114 Jul 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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History hasn't been too kind to slaves and women. But look at them now. Even though illegal slavery continues to exist, there isn't a country on the planet that sanctions the enslavement of others. And women have made amazing strides over the past century or so.
That's where we are in this country (and around the world). As I have said numerous times, since the Age of Enlightenment, scientists, political leaders, some religious leaders, and society in general have stopped relying on myths and focus now on scientific knowledge, freedom, and equality.
So there you have it... The LGBT movement is just another step along the way towards a path of equality for all.
Vv, claiming identity with other members of society is simply wishful thinking if you are not honest about your distinctions.

The military is in the middle of problems because they deny gender and orientation distinctions. You demand the denial of orientation distinctions in marriage.

Dishonesty and denial creates a wicked bitch slap from reality...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205115 Jul 27, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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If you knew anything about gay sex, you'd be painfully aware that we're completely avoiding "straight holes".
Painful being the key word...
Mikey

Fullerton, CA

#205116 Jul 27, 2013
laughing man wrote:
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Plenty of us have accepted that Caligula depends on the lower I.Q. of the Common Man.
You need to go watch your Penthouse movie again laughing boy, as much as you wanted to see it, Male on male sex wasn't depicted in it. AGAIN READ!..Learn some real history! Moron.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205117 Jul 27, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Thanks, but someone who has been married for 36 years, and in love for 18 of those years isn't exactly the type of individual I'd take advice from.
Troll on, Hunty.
Oh yeah!!! Still married here, and your opinions seem to have been powerless to stop that. Pity.
I know, you fell in love.

We call that an accident.

What will you do when you fall out of love? You know accidents can happen both ways.

Just curious, how many committed relationships have you been in?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#205118 Jul 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Painful being the key word...
YUK!YUK!YUK! Good one!

"High five!" (VV hates it when we do that, as if he and his dopey sidekicks don't.)

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#205119 Jul 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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So manipulating a contract to establish a counterfeit relationship is
It's not "counterfeit"; that would require a penis and a vagina. It's a SSM, so there are two of the same gender. That's much more original than it is "counterfeit", unless you're Marcus Bachmann, of course, who IS in a "counterfeit" marriage.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#205120 Jul 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I certainly help the heads-up.
We bet you do fruitcake.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#205121 Jul 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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So manipulating a contract to establish a counterfeit relationship is going to take ss couples from a horrible track record to the best?
Please don't make me hold my breath...
LOL
Yes... I do believe that establishing a legally binding contract will help same-gender relationships.

Were it not for marriage, people would just be hooking up left and right. You've even said so yourself (marriage is a constraint).

And despite no-fault divorces, I still maintain that divorce is emotionally and financially devastating. The negative aspects of divorce from a legal contract help keep couples intact.

Throw in the ceremony; where you stand before God and a group of witnesses--family and friends, and you've got the makings of an actual social structure that encourages couples to remain together.

Marriage will strengthen same-sex couple's relationships. And that can only be good for us and the community.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#205122 Jul 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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If I remember my history well, and I do,
interracial marriages have existed in every culture in human history.
Ss couples being married? Incredibly rare and marginal instances that were often an aberration in the society.
As to the condition of marriage now? You can thank government for the last time they redefined marriage.
Those formal and informal bans on homosexual relationships were clearly established on religious, non-scientific beliefs and understandings about gays and lesbians.

Historical mistreatment of a minority group CANNOT be the basis for continued mistreatment; especially in light of the fact that (now pay particular attention to this) GAYS AND LESBIANS ARE NOT NOW CONISDERED TO BE DISORDERED OR UNNATURAL.

We have collectively learned that the way we viewed homosexuality throughout a great deal of history WAS WRONG!

Other radical shifts in scientific belief include:
--The discovery and acceptance that the world is not flat.
--The discovery and acceptance that the earth is not the center of the universe.
--The discovery and acceptance that illnesses are not related to an invasion of evil spirits or demonic possession.
--The discovery and acceptance that there are core elements that make up the world we live in.
--The discovery of the atom.
--The discovery and acceptance of working within a sterile medical setting to reduce the number of deaths from infections.

I could go on and on, but hopefully, you see my point.

The discovery and acceptance of homosexuality being a natural and normal orientation has been a game-changer in the way that society will forever look at gays and lesbians.

Short of some kind of worldwide, cataclysmic event that destroys all knowledge, we are not going to revisit the issue of homosexuality as being a disorder ever again.

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