Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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LOL!!! You know who else makes it their business to protect children you old biddy?
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy
American Psychoanalytic Association
National Association of Social Workers
Child Welfare League of America
North American Council on Adoptable Children
Canadian Psychological Association
These EXPERTS all agree that children raised by sexual minority parents with those raised by otherwise comparable heterosexual parents have not found any differences in mental health or social adjustment.
These EXPERTS have stated that differences have not been found in parenting ability between lesbian mothers and heterosexual mothers.
These EXPERTS have stated that gay fathers are fewer in number but aren't any less fit or able as parents than heterosexual men.
So lets see. We have the actual peer reviewed research and testimonials from ten organizations specializing in the health and welfare of children, or we have the made up bunk of a fundamentalist Christian c*nt who has proven repeatedly to be intentionally deceitful, a liar, and a sanctimonious bitch. I wonder which side is right??!!!!!
Smile cur.
EXPERTS = secretly placed subsersives and operatives. Nice mouth. You kiss you daddie with it?
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<quoted text>DUH why do you think Warren Jeffs went to the slammer, he married a 12 year old and a 15 year old girl. Its called polygamy. Have you looked into Islam at all? I have to tell ya putz, they marry em young, 9, 10 years old.
How polygamy affects your wallet
You may or may not agree with polygamist Warren Jeffs' lifestyle, and you may or may not think he is indeed the dangerous criminal the FBI says he is, but would you believe Jeffs and his followers are costing you money?
"Their religious belief is that they'll bleed the beast, meaning the government," said Mark Shurtleff, Utah's attorney general. "They hate the government, so they'll bleed it for everything they can through welfare, tax evasion and fraud."
It makes some sense. Polygamists have multiple wives and dozens of children, but the state only recognizes one marriage. That leaves the rest of the wives to claim themselves as single moms with armies of children to support. Doing that means they can apply for welfare, which they do. And it's all legal.
"More than 65 percent of the people are on welfare ... compared with 6 percent of the people of the general population," Shurtleff said.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.coop...
Why did David Carpenter and Joshua Brown go to the slammer? Gay rape. Next?
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I've got a better idea. You steer me to the part I wrote about Martin being a homophobe. You might want to put the tea on, caffeinated, as you're going to be quite busy in a futile search.
It's called sarcasm, shitferbrains. We all know that you human coffee tables are going to be hypocrites and give de Blacke Mon a pass because he too is listed on The Government protected species list.

Everybody knows he was a homophobe. Chantel or Latisha (or whatever her name is) told the world.

Imbecile.
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<quoted text>DUH why do you think Warren Jeffs went to the slammer, he married a 12 year old and a 15 year old girl. Its called polygamy. Have you looked into Islam at all? I have to tell ya putz, they marry em young, 9, 10 years old.
How polygamy affects your wallet
You may or may not agree with polygamist Warren Jeffs' lifestyle, and you may or may not think he is indeed the dangerous criminal the FBI says he is, but would you believe Jeffs and his followers are costing you money?
"Their religious belief is that they'll bleed the beast, meaning the government," said Mark Shurtleff, Utah's attorney general. "They hate the government, so they'll bleed it for everything they can through welfare, tax evasion and fraud."
It makes some sense. Polygamists have multiple wives and dozens of children, but the state only recognizes one marriage. That leaves the rest of the wives to claim themselves as single moms with armies of children to support. Doing that means they can apply for welfare, which they do. And it's all legal.
"More than 65 percent of the people are on welfare ... compared with 6 percent of the people of the general population," Shurtleff said.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.coop...
why did David Carpenter and Joshua Brown go to the slammer? Gay murder. Next?
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<quoted text>DUH why do you think Warren Jeffs went to the slammer, he married a 12 year old and a 15 year old girl. Its called polygamy. Have you looked into Islam at all? I have to tell ya putz, they marry em young, 9, 10 years old.
How polygamy affects your wallet
You may or may not agree with polygamist Warren Jeffs' lifestyle, and you may or may not think he is indeed the dangerous criminal the FBI says he is, but would you believe Jeffs and his followers are costing you money?
"Their religious belief is that they'll bleed the beast, meaning the government," said Mark Shurtleff, Utah's attorney general. "They hate the government, so they'll bleed it for everything they can through welfare, tax evasion and fraud."
It makes some sense. Polygamists have multiple wives and dozens of children, but the state only recognizes one marriage. That leaves the rest of the wives to claim themselves as single moms with armies of children to support. Doing that means they can apply for welfare, which they do. And it's all legal.
"More than 65 percent of the people are on welfare ... compared with 6 percent of the people of the general population," Shurtleff said.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.coop...
Why did David Carpenter and Joshua Brown go to the slammer? Gay.... you get the idea by now..
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Interesting new thread. Come on over and discuss all things Jizzy! But especially why does he change his socks so often?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/TTC5AE53H...
Because, his socks stink.
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<quoted text>Wow are you stupid, the laws against polygamy and child abuse did not stop Jeffs from marring two children, one 12 and one 15. Why cant you understand that? He broke the laws against polygamy and CHILD abuse, separate laws.
Just as the laws didn't prevent David Carpenter and Joshua Brown from going all ape-shyte on Jesse .. Next?
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<quoted text>Should I start a poll?
Are you really that interested in finding out what a twink you are?
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<quoted text>I am the 1 and only, the original Frankie Rizzo. Stop impersonating me and get a job you worthless bum.
What a sad little fruit-fly you are..
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Frankie Rizzo1 wrote:
<quoted text>Back off buddy, I am the REAL, one and only Frankie Rizzo. Don't let me find you on 42 2nd street, my friends don't like that crap.
Where is 42 2nd St? Is it next to 1/2 Blvd, the home of SSM?
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But only one Jizzy boy!
P.S. You forgot about Philadelphia Frank Rizzo, you know the one you whine about me supposedly impersonating as if it's a crime, Zoro.
Yes, he forgot, just as he forgot which sock he was using, when he posted about being you, with his other tag "Poof"...

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Here is one to start with. There are many more that you could have easily found (maybe you did and just pretended ignorance again...).
Read the first paragraph.
http://www.psy.cmu.edu/~rakison/
bussandschmitt.pdf
The authors of this study are looking at the evolutionary process of determining a mate for the purposes of reproduction.
This is not a study that looks at “marriage”, which is a legal union that ties people together.
Just because the first paragraph mentions “marriage”, it is not a discussion about marriage. In fact, the authors specifically use the words “mating relationships”; which, as we know, not all marriages are “mating relationships”.

Now you may say I’m splitting hairs, but in the opening paragraph, did you happen to notice how the authors define marriages as being “usually” regarded as formal reproductive alliances? Another way of saying this would be “While some marriages are ‘usually regarded as formal reproductive alliances’, NOT ALL marriages are defined in this manner.”
I think this is an important distinction; one that cannot be overlooked.

Next, this article is focused exclusively on heterosexual RELATIONSHPS (not marriage) that are SPECIFICALLY for the purposes of reproducing.
It doesn’t touch on those relationships in which couples make the conscious and mutually agreed upon decision that they will not reproduce.
As I’ve pointed out to you time and again, the numbers of married couples who are choosing NOT to have children has been increasing over the past few decades. This article doesn’t not address it and therefore does not ask or answer the question “why?”

Another problem with this article is that it does not examine homosexual relationships (long-term or short-term) at all.
Obviously same-sex relationships exist. They’ve always existed.
But since this is an article about the evolutionary processes involved with regards to opposite-gender couples in determining who to mate with; and NOT an article about marriage; the authors don’t spend time talking about gays.
Their exclusion of researching same-sex relationships probably has more to do with the specific interests of the authors and the fact that in 1993, the same-sex marriage movement was not as prominent an issue as it is today.
Keep in mind, the first country to legalize same-sex marriage happened seven years after this article was published and who knows how long after the authors began their research.
Regardless of why homosexuality is not discussed by the authors, their exclusion of the subject CANNOT be viewed as an endorsement that marriage MUST BE reserved for opposite-gender relationships only.

Lastly, I did a search on David M. Buss, just to see what he has to say about homosexuality. One of his “theories” is that some men “choose” homosexuality because they are unattractive to women.
We know that homosexuality is not a choice. That’s stupid. Even the most homely straight man could not—would not—“choose” to become gay.
And all that David Schmitt has to say about gay men is that they, like heterosexual men, enjoy having more sexual partners than gay and straight women.

Here’s the bottom line, you total rube; the article you cite is not about marriage. It’s about mating and how it MAY have evolved over the millennia. Since it does not examine heterosexual relationships in which couples consciously decide to forgo having children and since there is no discussion at all about homosexual relationships, you CANNOT conclude that this article in ANY WAY supports the belief that marriage should be confined to opposite-gender couples.

Perhaps you should read beyond the first paragraph of an article before you decide to throw it around as proof-positive for your notions.
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Is that what I said moron? No. I didn't say "I agree that if man has more than one wife, and children by all of his wives they all should be on welfare." Why are you such a lying moron?
I said the reason you perceive welfare abuse is the fault of polygamy being illegal. Only one wife is allowed, any others are single mothers and thus entitled to benefits. I know it's hard for you to understand that because I've said it four times now and you still don't get it. But try.
Anyway, perceived or real, welfare abuse is not a reason to deny equal protection. And cost is certainly not a reason to deny equal protection for SSM or polygamy. Try again.
P.S. You do realize you are arguing against marriage equality I hope.
What's really funny is that he claims that the polygamists are trying to get on welfare, when they can have THEIR OWN BABIES, and work as well... Less likely to go on welfare when 1 spouse can stay at home and watch all the naturally earned babies, while everyone else goes to work. At least they can take care of all of their own business. They don't have to adopt kids, and leave 1/2 the household at home to watch the "Flowers In The Attic"... They are more able to avoid welfare than the SSSB couples...

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Why did Rock Hudson have to change his name? Anyone know?
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Zimmerman had been told, by police, to stand down. If he'd stayed in his car we wouldn't have been discussing this. Martin would have been left to his own devices and his future would have unfolded as it should have. I understand the stand your ground approach. Even as an individual with liberal leanings I don't accept the notion that if some nobhead enters my house to steal stuff I am require to roll over belly up and leave if possible. EF that. Enter my home uninvited at your own risk.
However, Zimmerman wasn't defending his home/car/tent/shoebox, he was on neighborhood watch in his car. His duty, IMHO, is to alert the law to suspicious behavior, which he did. He then, against police directive, stuck his nose in where it didn't belong. What happened next is known only by two people, one is dead. Letting Zimmerman off scot free sends the wrong message. But hey ho, that is Florida law in effect. Maybe they'll have a look at the regs involved in neighborhood watch.
It appears Zimmerman does have a history too. It has also come to light that Zimmerman has three prior arrests that were closed, domestic violence, resisting arrest without violence, and resisting arrest with violence (both actually did involve violence). All closed out with no explanation. His father is a retired judge. Am I jumping to conclusions? Of course I am. But not without experience. We've got a trouble making lad around my parts that has no criminal record. He does, however, have a fair few victims. Like Zimmerman, his pop wears a black robe.
Agreed. He should have remained in his car. Any history of violence should have been relevant, in such a high profile case. Pappy/Judge or not.
Maybe, your "trouble making lad" needs to go for a "ride" down Meadow Lane? Teach him that his dad can keep LEGAL consequences away, but not any other type?
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If Travon Martin didn't tresspass into a gated community he may still be alive today, unless he chose to rob a liquor store, he is a bad little boy with a rap sheet. If you are going to deffend him know the facts so you don't look as stupid as he does or did
Sheesh is pointing out relevant facts, and allowed to make opinions. Stop being churlish and ignorant.
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I see the stupid joto is back. when i was on top of your momomy last night, she told me that you are the one playing on her computer, changing the locations of posters. You can not hide from Gustavo my friend because your mommy tell me everything ... hehe lol pendejo
Dame cabeza, eh?
LOL
Hehe
Pinche punetas ...
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Will the real Frankie Rizzo please bend over! your BF Hudson has something "Rock" Hard for you!!! LOL
Pendej*. Maric*n.
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You conveniently left out the part where hoodie repeatedly slammed Zimmerman's head into the concrete.
They don't like inconvenient truths. It gets in their way...
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If you punch someone in the mouth you might get shot. So don't cry if you do. Don't want to get shot? Don't punch anyone in the mouth. It's a simple concept really. If more people learned it, less people would get shot.
An armed society is a polite society.
He's such an idiot. We have gun laws because babies like him can't be trusted...

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