Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201887 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#193815 May 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
"So let’s fight for marriage equality until it extends to every same-sex couple in the United States—and then let’s keep fighting. We’re not done yet." -Jillian Keenan.
Of course we're not done yet. We still have to battle job discrimination, housing discrimination, bullying issues, and other anti-LGBT discrimination issues.

At Vanderbilt University, a gay man attempted to join a Baptist Student organization. He was denied entry based on his sexual orientation.

This organization is funded not only by student fees and private donations, but also by state and federal dollars that are given to the University by way of student loan money, scholarships, and grants.

You couldn't deny entry to such an organization based on religion, race, gender, or handicap. So why is it OK for them to deny entry based on sexual orientation? There are many gay Baptists out there. This student should be given the same rights as all other applicants.

Did you think that same-sex marriage is the only issue that the LGBT community is interested in?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#193816 May 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Pedophiles are pedophiles... It doesn't matter if they are gay or straight. There are no legal codes in any state or jurisdiction that separates "gay pedophiles" from "straight pedophiles" or "bisexual pedophiles".
Furthermore, in medicine and psychiatry, there is only a diagnosis of "pedophilia". There are no specifications for "gay pedophile", "straight pedophile" or "bisexual pedophile".
There isn't even a designation for "Baptist pedophile", "Catholic pedophile" or "Atheist pedophile".
That you keep trying to paint gays as pedophiles is a blatant lie. You have nothing else to throw at the gays other than another one of your ignorant, hate-inciting, concocted terms.
You are a pastor who should know better than to do this. But you don't.
You stopped being a man of God long ago. Now you're just a little, insignificant, shit-stain of a human being.
How do you distinguish pedophiles who molest only boys from those who molest only girls?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#193817 May 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
A law and a piece of paper is all that counts when it comes to being legally married.
Maybe for SS couples, but not for real marriage.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#193818 May 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you are WRONG!
It wasn't the Prop. 8 decision, nor was it DOMA that kept polygamy from being legalized.
It was Reynolds v. United States (1878). "Chief Justice Morrison R. Waite, writing for a unanimous court, held that the statute can punish criminal activity without regard to religious belief. The First Amendment protected religious belief, but it did not protect religious practices that were judged to be criminal such as bigamy. Those who practice polygamy could no more be exempt from the law than those who may wish to practice human sacrifice as part of their religious belief."
So you see, bigamy determined to be illegal well over a century before DOMA or Prop. 8 came along.
What don't you understand about "a man and a woman"? It's a very simple concept really, in addition to preventing same sex marriage prop 8 also prevents poly marriage.

Sure there are other laws against poly, same as there are or have been against same sex. But we're talking prop 8 here as you jackasses like to rudely remind me every time you're at a loss for an effective argument which is always.

Prop 8 discriminates against poly marriage as surely as it does against SSM. Don't hog all the victimhood.
smacked OUT

San Dimas, CA

#193819 May 30, 2013
WE SHOULD ADD A FEW MORE PSOTRS NAMES TO THE TESTING LIST.

Drug tests are needed to bring back confidence in the American justice system.

May 2013 a Illinois Judge Michael Cook is charged with possessing heroin and having a gun while illegally using controlled substances.

This includes everyone who works in a court house etc.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#193820 May 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course we're not done yet. We still have to battle job discrimination, housing discrimination, bullying issues, and other anti-LGBT discrimination issues.
At Vanderbilt University, a gay man attempted to join a Baptist Student organization. He was denied entry based on his sexual orientation.
This organization is funded not only by student fees and private donations, but also by state and federal dollars that are given to the University by way of student loan money, scholarships, and grants.
You couldn't deny entry to such an organization based on religion, race, gender, or handicap. So why is it OK for them to deny entry based on sexual orientation? There are many gay Baptists out there. This student should be given the same rights as all other applicants.
Did you think that same-sex marriage is the only issue that the LGBT community is interested in?
But none of that stuff for polygamists in VV la la land?

Imagine if MLK was like you. Equality for his race only. All other races need not climb that mountain.

Life in VV La La Land sucks for unapproved groups. Let em eat cake.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#193821 May 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you distinguish pedophiles who molest only boys from those who molest only girls?
Pedophiles, whether they molest boys only or girls only, or both are straight. Says so in the rainbow handbook.

For example Jerry Sandusky, who raped only boys ("horsing around") is straight. If unbeknownst to him a boy he was raping turned 18 before Jerry came, then Jerry would turn gay.

Easy! Glad you asked.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#193822 May 30, 2013
smacked OUT wrote:
WE SHOULD ADD A FEW MORE PSOTRS NAMES TO THE TESTING LIST.
Drug tests are needed to bring back confidence in the American justice system.
May 2013 a Illinois Judge Michael Cook is charged with possessing heroin and having a gun while illegally using controlled substances.
This includes everyone who works in a court house etc.
You need testing.
Anonymous

Vallejo, CA

#193823 May 30, 2013
Nigeria lawmakers pass anti-gay marriage bill - Lawmakers in Nigeria passed a bill Thursday banning gay marriage and outlawing anyone from forming organizations supporting gay rights, setting prison terms of up to 14 years for offenders.
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22457196/nigeria...
Vall Ejo

San Dimas, CA

#193824 May 30, 2013
The California measure or bill/law calls for revoking the tax-exempt status of youth groups that discriminate against participants on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identification.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#193825 May 30, 2013
The Boy Scouts of America discriminates against children who believe membership should be limited to boys who are morally straight. The Government should repeal the BSA tax exempt status.

Ronald

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#193826 May 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
No need to make assumptions, your hostility towards polygamy is obvious.
As if you didn't pull any assumptions about me out of your ass.
And now you're lying.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#193827 May 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Those two statements are perfect evidence that ss couples do not equate to natural parents. It even puts into doubt their ability to care for children.
The rest of your post is pure denial and gay twirl.
So you make an unsubstantiated claim and then quit. Brilliant.

Dismissed.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#193828 May 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you'll refer us to proof of even one of my alleged lies.
You are lying when you say I have been caught in any lies and you know it. It's your M.O. When cornered, you lie.
Five posts ago:

"your hostility towards polygamy is obvious."

Lie.

Next.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#193829 May 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
What does marriage equality for one group mean to marriage equality for another group? Are you stupid?
No, you are. You think any "change" means anything goes. That's stupid and simplistic.

Your frame of reference is so skewed because your starting point is 1 man/1 woman marriage. Guess what - if you have ANY marriage, then the door is open, dumbass. It doesn't only open when you change something.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#193830 May 30, 2013
Tony C wrote:
<quoted text>
And now you're lying.
I am not lying, but maybe I am mistaking hostility towards me with hostility towards polygamy.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#193831 May 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a simple concept really. When many states have decided heterosexuality is no longer relevant to marriage, why is monogamy still relevant?
Ask for help. Sound it out. Remember, there are no dumb posts! Only dumbass posters like yourself.
Why is it you struggle with that question and I don't?

Your statement is nonsensical on its face. There is no logical correlation. You might as well pick any other "then" statement:

If heterosexuality is no longer relevant to marriage, why is the welfare of children still relevant? Why is (anything) still relevant? What a stupid position.

And what is the purpose of monogamy? Faithfulness? I think polygamous families would argue they are faithful to each other.

You're out of your league.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#193832 May 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:<quoted text>
Thank you for a great example;
Society for too long denied that Blacks were people because of their skin color.
Now we are attempting to deny that moms/dads are unique and significant roles.
Every person in existence has only ever one real mother and father. Never two, and always both.
You want to make them meaningless. A zero. Must make your mom and dad proud..
<quoted text>
I wasn't even trying. I don't need to.
Every person has only ONE mother and father. That is simple reality. Equating anyone else to that place is a default at the most. Claiming one is unnecessary is simply insanity.
You fail with marriage and family.
Honey that must suck.
So you don't accept adoption as society accepts adoption. Adoptive parents are not parents in your world. They are less than. Be sure to tell that to Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#193833 May 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
"So let’s fight for marriage equality until it extends to every same-sex couple in the United States—and then let’s keep fighting. We’re not done yet." -Jillian Keenan.
Why do you keep repeating this as if it is some big smoking gun or something?

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#193834 May 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
Here is the disappointing reality of all this gay twirl.
A ss couple will only ever be only a duplicated HALF of marriage.
Nothing can change that.
You can't force people to deny that reality.
A law or a piece of paper cannot change it.
The result can ONLY be another fruitless gay encounter.
Ha ha! You're a riot.

You don't get to decide "reality."

I am married. We are both husbands. Nothing you can say can ever matter to those facts.

But I kind of enjoy that it bothers you so much.

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