Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

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Bruno wrote:
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As long as it's not California, the sane state. I don't see queers running to these states to get married!!
I would not make a wager on California being the next state, another state may slip in under the wire before Prop 8 goes down the tubes

But California already has same sex marriage, some 18,000 same sex couples are legally married and recognized in California today. The equal rights questions over prop 8 are why some same sex couples are already legally married and others cannot, that is a slam dunk argument in the courts, it is why everyone is expecting Prop 8 to fail, the equal rights issue is obvious.
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What's up Bruno you silly jackass?
Wanna gay marry me after prop 8 goes down?
R u on drugs or just stupid, you know I'm against SSM you moron. Ask that tranny Ho Negro ... lol and before you ask, NO I will not attend your weding
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Stealing lines from "Animal House"?
It's funny what Jizzy thinks witty. That's why I love the silly jackass!
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"just the facts" is the latest sock of "Jazybird58". I call the silly jackass "Jizzy", or Jizzybird.
He's a real dope. Very angry too.
Okay.
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<quoted text>why you mad Frank? Flat tire on your chair? Tell us the one how you where a War hero when the Nazi's bombed Pearl Harbor
The Nazis never bombed Pearl Harbor you big dope.

Too funny!
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R u on drugs or just stupid, you know I'm against SSM you moron. Ask that tranny Ho Negro ... lol and before you ask, NO I will not attend your weding
Too funny!

Relax power ranger.
Big D

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The idea of SSM only appeals to the cult itself, odd balls and is out of alingment and compliance to science.
Your religious cult has no basis in US law, Same Sex marriage is a reality in the US, over 120,000 legally married same sex couples are in the us today, and 18,000 of them where married in California and legally recognized here.

Science has proven over and over that homosexuality is a common and normal occurrence in mammalian species

so far you got zip

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I have not heard one yet
The procreation argument was dead on arrival
The history/tradition argument was dead before arrival
There is no religious argument that applies to US law
I have not heard a single argument that was anything more than laughing stock.
Don't forget the voters, they too were dead, or at least their wiil, was, on arrival . Oh wait I forgot, your patriotism isn't invoked for the voters.

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Your religious cult has no basis in US law,
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Nor, apparently, the will of the voters.

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Same Sex marriage is a reality in the US, over 120,000 legally married same sex couples are in the us today,
Okaaaaaaay.....
and 18,000 of them where married in California and legally recognized here.
Against the will of the people.....twice.
Science has proven over and over that homosexuality is a common and normal occurrence in mammalian species
so far you got zip
But they don't wear rainbow stickers on their butts.
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IOW, you can't come up with a rational argument against gay marriage, so you just lie and claim you have one I won't except.(Why not just post the actual argument? Oh, yeah, you don't have one!)
And then you called me names.
Then you had to look up the term "non sequitur" because you didn't know what it means. And it's clear you still don't.
Must suck to high heaven to be you!
In very plain words, you ignore all the rational arguments that have been delivered. Then you act as if you haven't heard any. Then you attempt (pitifully) to imply that I don't know what "non sequitur" means, and you've made that claim several times before, so your memory is also lacking, as is the rest of your act. Tell me, do you sing and tap dance, too, or is that your whole act? Your whole act sucks. And you know it. those other rooms and forums? They say the same things as I do, so you know that wherever you go, you'll get mocked for playing the same tired old routines. "Yawn"..
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What kind of horseshit are they making up about you now? These losers are SO desperate.
...Yeah....Keep talking....Not that any of it's true, but.....Keep talking....
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Okaaaaaaay.....
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Against the will of the people.....twice.
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But they don't wear rainbow stickers on their butts.
How many times do I need to explain to you that we are not an Athenian style democracy, it is not the rule of the mob here.

Donít worry, if the Supremes get it wrong, that vote will come up again, and every poll shows Prop 8 crashing and burning, and good luck with the court case challenging that ( chuckle )

It was much easier front the other perspective because bias and injustice were easily shown, and no harm whatsoever was shown by the opposition. That is why they have crashed and burned in front of every court so far.
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Don't forget the voters, they too were dead, or at least their wiil, was, on arrival . Oh wait I forgot, your patriotism isn't invoked for the voters.
Welcome to the United States, you are confusing it with ancient Athens that was a pure democracy, we are also a republic

Perhaps you should go to elementary school, or better go to an immigration center that has classes on citizenship and learn just a little bit about your new country here before making more foolish posts.

In this country, a majority cannot decide to remove rights from a minority over bias, and when ther is no harm to the majority. This is a very different land than ancient athens.

I hope you enjoy your stay and decide to actually become a citicezn of our great nation.
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Then what is your personal objection to gays and lesbians?
I have no personal objection to them, but my official stance is that marriage is for 1 man/1 woman. And I object to the use of the govermental mandates and the misappropriation of traditional roles. Some things should just be left as they were. As per your personal relationships, have at it. Knock your socks off. It's not my place to tell you where you may sleep at night. I'll be the first one to say enjoy what you will. But I do not accept the definition of SSC's as "married". Sorry. Marriage is a contract that is intended to benefit 1 man and 1 woman having their own children. Adopted kids can fit into that, but when we start to change too many of the ingredients in a "marriage", it's not that, anymore.
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Name one special right.
Ooops, looks like you are going to have to STFU!
No, it doesn't look like that, at all. Are you on the dope again?
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Don't forget the voters, they too were dead, or at least their wiil, was, on arrival . Oh wait I forgot, your patriotism isn't invoked for the voters.
Patriotism? Doesn't that involve knowing how the system actually WORKS???????? Judicial review is part of what makes America great. You don't like it? TOUGH!
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I have no personal objection to them, but my official stance is that marriage is for 1 man/1 woman.
Wait a minute..... all that whining you did about polygamy was because.......?
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There used to be a thing (at least in UK law) called 'common law' marriage where a couple weren't 'married' but were regarded as such because of the nature of their relationship. One thing this meant was they could use it to back up, say, any claim on a Will.
A great many families are either single parent families or those where both partners are not living at the family home. The amount of abuse by (hetero) step parents is very common, as is murder of children by them. From people (Ok, not stats) sharing their experience many site divorce and living with a (hetero) couple who are at odds with one another as deeply disturbing and something which must have effected them strongly enough for them to still be talking about long into adulthood. This is the nature of relationships. It has been said by some sociologists that the family unit although theoretically is the ideal (according to most psychologists) is in fact inherently damaging and dysfunctional to many - ie. it cuts both ways. I might suggest One reason children from SSM are less well adjusted is because of the bigotry their parents face; and beneath the surface is the thought that their family is not to be considered normal. Do you have the same issue with, say a mother and daughter raising that daughter's child, or where the father is in the mother role of housekeeper and primary caregiver because the wife is the one that has a career. Studies (no, I can't reference them, it's been a while since college) I recall conclude that it doesn't directly matter who (or how many) the bond parent or primary care giver is as long as the child does bond and is able to then feel secure enough to become (attach then detach) an independent individual within the family or whatever social setting they are being brought up in.
I would say most couples having children has some basis in narcissism.
I don't see how you can equate the natural biological function with a personality flaw. How can you even propose that?
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I have no personal objection to them, but my official stance is that marriage is for 1 man/1 woman. And I object to the use of the govermental mandates and the misappropriation of traditional roles. Some things should just be left as they were. As per your personal relationships, have at it. Knock your socks off. It's not my place to tell you where you may sleep at night. I'll be the first one to say enjoy what you will. But I do not accept the definition of SSC's as "married". Sorry. Marriage is a contract that is intended to benefit 1 man and 1 woman having their own children. Adopted kids can fit into that, but when we start to change too many of the ingredients in a "marriage", it's not that, anymore.
I am opposed to you BIG government types, the ones that want to get into our personal lives and tell us who we can marry and who we cant.
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Rock Hudson wrote:
Marriage is a contract that is intended to benefit 1 man and 1 woman having their own children. Adopted kids can fit into that, but when we start to change too many of the ingredients in a "marriage", it's not that, anymore.
Now where have I heard that before? History books? Yep.... it's the same ol' bitter whine....

You are SO afraid of change..... why does it scare you so much? If you can't change your mind, are you sure you still have one?

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