Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,181

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#190547 Apr 29, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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Like she said, you have to hide behind lies...
BTW, generally it is assumed that homosexuals make up about 4% of the population, straight 96%. So with only 4% you have a limited pool to pull from, I suggest you choose your spokespeople a little more carefully. BTW, her comments were met with HUGE applause, so I would say at least a size-able portion agree with her.
But in all honesty I don't give a damn about the agenda, I just find it funny how quickly you guys will throw someone under the bus.
Oh, I see you guys throwing straight supporters of same-sex marriage under the bus all the time. It's hardly gruesome.

And nobody knows exactly how many gay people there are in this country.

Not everyone who participates in homosexual activity thinks of his/herself as gay. Many closeted gays would admit to being gay, even though they have attractions to members of the same gender.

So you're probably not going to get an accurate count anytime soon.

Nevertheless, you can rest assured that most in the LGBT community AND our heterosexual allies do, in fact, support same-sex marriage.

Since: Mar 13

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#190548 Apr 29, 2013
wohoooo....i like this news
Frankie Rizzo

Los Angeles, CA

#190549 Apr 29, 2013
John-Albert wrote:
wohoooo....i like this news
Welcome to the thread, queer-o. You swallow or just spit?
Some Never Came Home

Beacon, NY

#190550 Apr 29, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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Considering that only 1 State- Maine- has passed same sex marriage by popular vote I would hardly call it a "trend change."
But I do agree that public opinion is slowing changing, what you underestimate is the backlash should this change be forced by the SCOTUS. Think about it, Prop 8 was just such a backlash from a decision. So historically this is true. I honestly think had Prop 22 been allowed to stand in California, and Prop 8 was introduced with the only difference being to repeal prop 22, this wouldn't be in the judiciary at the moment. I am certain there were people that really had no interest in the issue that simply voted for Prop 8 to say f-u to the court, as well as this feeling- real or imagined- that this issue is being shoved down their throats.
The same is being seen with the resistance States are giving to "Obama Care." The American public can be very spiteful.
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You mean all 5 of them?
Seriously, this is more an exercise in politics. They are in a VERY liberal State, and to vote otherwise would surely ensure their demise.
That would be like a Democrat running as a mouth piece for gun control in Alaska and thinking they stood a chance at being elected.
It seems sometimes you really don't think things through.
Yes,it seems sometimes you really don't think things through! Sorry OH great one but there have now been 3 states that have passed Marriage equality by popular vote! Now,are you lying or was it an honest mistake on the part of your ignorance? Geez,and we all thought you knew it all! Care to try again?

3 states by popular vote,Maine,Maryland and Washington state!

www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-usa-cam...

Since: Aug 12

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#190551 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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I'm aware there are a number of fake, imposter, sterile, duplicate half of marriage pretendies, but no such thing as a 'ss marriage'.
Smile.
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However, I've never proclaimed myself as half of anything. A genetic chimera has the full DNA of two people, and no epi-marker mistakes like homosexuals. We are however both sexual mutations.
Smile.
Oh look KiMare you have a 'pretendie' marriage. It's not generally legal for a three person union.
SSM cannot be fake, imposter, duplicate as marriage is what the law says it is... yes that's the reality. When the law says two people are legally married and have a marriage license then they are married... not faking or pretending. Marriage is defined by law and laws are constantly redefined... it's called progress. Unless of course you are referencing marriage to 'God's law' and the Bible, are you? In which case marriage is two-fold, the civil/legal and the religious side. The former is what we're talking about with regards to SSM; the latter is a matter of a person's faith and up to that person's church, not up to general laws.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#190552 Apr 30, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
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What's also clear is that he/she has no grasp of logic, or original thought. I'm sure that you noticed the absolute reliance on a Chongo-type insult? This one's a small fry, playing at being an adult..
Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190553 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm aware there are a number of fake, imposter, sterile, duplicate half of marriage pretendies, but no such thing as a 'ss marriage'.
Smile.
<quoted text>
It's clear you have no argument with the defunct stance of ss couples with marriage.
However, I've never proclaimed myself as half of anything. A genetic chimera has the full DNA of two people, and no epi-marker mistakes like homosexuals. We are however both sexual mutations. You however are in denial about it.
Smile.
Marram wrote:
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So, by your proclamation you have a Lesbian trapped inside of you. If that’s the case then you have an epi-marker mistake, true?
You lied about my last 'proclamation', now you are showing your ignorance by your next claimed 'proclamation' by me.

Look up the difference between a genetic chimera and epi-genetics.

You are by default, admitting you are a sexual defect. Come out. Facing reality bravely is the first step to real life. Admit it.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190554 Apr 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Oh, I see you guys throwing straight supporters of same-sex marriage under the bus all the time. It's hardly gruesome.
And nobody knows exactly how many gay people there are in this country.
Not everyone who participates in homosexual activity thinks of his/herself as gay. Many closeted gays would admit to being gay, even though they have attractions to members of the same gender.
So you're probably not going to get an accurate count anytime soon.
Nevertheless, you can rest assured that most in the LGBT community AND our heterosexual allies do, in fact, support same-sex marriage.
The fact remains, that one of your own has admitted the inherent harm and perverse goals of this farce. All the things you deny.

SMirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190555 Apr 30, 2013
Stocking wrote:
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Oh look KiMare you have a 'pretendie' marriage. It's not generally legal for a three person union.
SSM cannot be fake, imposter, duplicate as marriage is what the law says it is... yes that's the reality. When the law says two people are legally married and have a marriage license then they are married... not faking or pretending. Marriage is defined by law and laws are constantly redefined... it's called progress. Unless of course you are referencing marriage to 'God's law' and the Bible, are you? In which case marriage is two-fold, the civil/legal and the religious side. The former is what we're talking about with regards to SSM; the latter is a matter of a person's faith and up to that person's church, not up to general laws.
Nice try socks.

The slut lesbian is not on the marriage license. In fact, I have to cover her one eye when I'm with my wife.

Marriage existed long before any laws of society. The sole purpose of law is to protect the birthplace of society's children. Mating behavior has the strongest impact on marriage. Culture and religion would be next.

At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Ss couples are a defective failure of mating behavior. A sterile duplicated half of marriage. It is an insult to intelligence to equate the two.

Smile.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190556 Apr 30, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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Counting on? I am not counting on anything, I merely point out a fact. But we know you don't deal in reality.
BTW, those States I am "counting on", would those be the same states which have already adopted Constitutional Amendments which would mimic that of a US Constitutional Amendment? Those are the ones that would do what they have already done?
Oh, and these 31 States, they are going to come much harder to the SSM crowd. If the SCOTUS does not make a sweeping decision, it will take another vote of the people to once again Amend their Constitution, it will not be as simple as blasting the court or the State Legislature with lobbyist's.
Did you point out the fact that California should NOT be counted as one of your 31 of which you only need 7 more than? It would never ever get past California’s legislature?

Did you point out the fact it would not get Nevada either? That one is going to be overturned

Oregon is no also on the path to having their ban overturned too

You ignore facts like the plague

You would need to conjure up a lot more than 7

It isn’t going to happen, you can’t stop freedom and justice that easily

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#190558 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The fact remains, that one of your own has admitted the inherent harm and perverse goals of this farce. All the things you deny.
SMirk.
"One of my own..."? Who am I, the Grand Duchess of the LGBT Community?

If the figures are correct, some 21,000,000 straight allies of the gay community support same-sex marriage.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190559 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try socks.
The slut lesbian is not on the marriage license. In fact, I have to cover her one eye when I'm with my wife.
Marriage existed long before any laws of society. The sole purpose of law is to protect the birthplace of society's children. Mating behavior has the strongest impact on marriage. Culture and religion would be next.
At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Ss couples are a defective failure of mating behavior. A sterile duplicated half of marriage. It is an insult to intelligence to equate the two.
Smile.
Slut, is that the term you use for someone’s spouse now?

I know you are a follower of the golden rule, you treat others the way you want to be treated. I will remember to always refer to your wife as a slut from this point forward to make you happy.

Whether you understand it or not, whether you like it or not, there are same sex marriages, legal same sex marriages, as legal as yours or mine.

It doesn’t matter whether you comprehend it or not, it doesn’t matter whether you like it or not.

There are

And I will treat your marriage exactly how you treat theirs.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190560 Apr 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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"One of my own..."? Who am I, the Grand Duchess of the LGBT Community?
If the figures are correct, some 21,000,000 straight allies of the gay community support same-sex marriage.
I am glad you mentioned that, Same sex marriage would not be advancing without the support of heterosexuals.

I think there are more heterosexual supporters of same sex marriage, then there are homosexual... think about that.

More voters in the US today support same sex marrage than oppose it

You are not alone

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#190561 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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....I have to cover her one eye when I'm with my wife.

Smile.
You need not bother; your wife has to cover both eyes in order to be with you. It's easier to imagine the lesbian that way.
uncle

Anonymous Proxy

#190562 Apr 30, 2013
hi
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190563 Apr 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
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...I think there are more heterosexual supporters of same sex marriage, then there are homosexual...
Of course there are dummy.(Duh). But no thanks to you. Your angry condescending nonsense is counterproductive.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190564 Apr 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190565 Apr 30, 2013
Just like heterosexual marriage is no better or worse than homosexual marriage, marriage between two consenting adults is not inherently more or less “correct” than marriage among three consenting adults.

Though polygamists are a minority—a tiny minority, in fact—freedom has no value unless it extends to even the smallest and most marginalized groups among us. So let’s fight for marriage equality until it extends to every same-sex couple in the United States—and then let’s keep fighting. We’re not done yet.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190566 Apr 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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"One of my own..."? Who am I, the Grand Duchess of the LGBT Community?
If the figures are correct, some 21,000,000 straight allies of the gay community support same-sex marriage.
Not sure how to address you properly

what is the correct term for a Grand Duchess?

Not your Majesty, even Your Highness sounds like way too much.

( chuckle )
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190567 Apr 30, 2013
Some Never Came Home wrote:
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Yes,it seems sometimes you really don't think things through! Sorry OH great one but there have now been 3 states that have passed Marriage equality by popular vote! Now,are you lying or was it an honest mistake on the part of your ignorance? Geez,and we all thought you knew it all! Care to try again?
3 states by popular vote,Maine,Maryland and Washington state!
www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-usa-cam...
Bill, posting a picture of a tombstone with my name on it is PYSCHOTIC. It is a death threat. Do you really want to kill me you big dopey galoot psycho?

Try and relax Fruitcake. Perhaps some thorazine?

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