Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Rock Hudson

Wooster, OH

#190526 Apr 29, 2013
All in accordance with the principles discovered by this author, principles which are designed to teach our children only enough skills to render service to the state. Not enough for our children to succeed.

http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs...
All going on, while the nation wrestles with the question of whether or not SSM should occur. What a way to keep our eyes off the ball...
Rock Hudson

Wooster, OH

#190527 Apr 29, 2013
Clever, isn't it?
Peeps

Covina, CA

#190528 Apr 29, 2013
There hasn't been request or authorization for anyone to peep in on this.

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#190529 Apr 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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I'm aware there are a number of fake, imposter, sterile, duplicate half of marriage pretendies, but no such thing as a 'ss marriage'.
Smile.
<quoted text>
It's clear you have no argument with the defunct stance of ss couples with marriage.
However, I've never proclaimed myself as half of anything. A genetic chimera has the full DNA of two people, and no epi-marker mistakes like homosexuals. We are however both sexual mutations. You however are in denial about it.
Smile.
So, by your proclamation you have a Lesbian trapped inside of you. If that’s the case then you have an epi-marker mistake, true?
Peeps

Covina, CA

#190530 Apr 29, 2013
There hasn't been request or authorization for anyone to peep in on this subject, the floor is closed.

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#190531 Apr 29, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go! Complete puppetry now. Resorting using Chongo-esque insults. Completely lost, since all you have is insults, and not even your own ones. Another Cicero quote: "When you have no argument, abuse the plaintiff". I knew that you were empty, now you have proven it.
Relax, Hater.

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#190532 Apr 29, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
What's also clear is that he/she has no grasp of logic, or original thought. I'm sure that you noticed the absolute reliance on a Chongo-type insult? This one's a small fry, playing at being an adult..
You sure do have a fragile ego. Is your tantrum over now?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190533 Apr 29, 2013
Marram wrote:
<quoted text>
Relax, Hater.
Shuddup Fruitcake. Get your own schtick.
Peeps

Covina, CA

#190534 Apr 29, 2013
The order is in effect.

There hasn't been request or authorization for anyone to peep in on this subject, the floor is closed.
chauncey

Los Angeles, CA

#190535 Apr 29, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
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That's sad, man. That's the best that Little Diddums can come up with? Oh hell...he's not even worth noticing. We can get shyte like that from Chongo..
:-D
Easy there, phaggoid. You're getting ahead of yourself. You're not ready to wear big boy pants.
Alibaba

Covina, CA

#190536 Apr 29, 2013
Alibaba, what a waste of food and water on these people who are quick to kill a non believer and allow a believer to murder one or their entire family for the name of some profit or pervert as the story goes and his 14 year old wife?

Kind of sounds like what Mormons do, but they finally caught one of them and he is in prison, crazy old coot.

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#190537 Apr 29, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Shuddup Fruitcake. Get your own schtick.
Don't get you panties in a twist, Hater. Just Relax.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#190538 Apr 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
We are however both sexual mutations. You however are in denial about it.
Smile.
Opinion, not scientific fact.

Secret Smile, Kuntmary.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#190540 Apr 29, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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Only 7 more State buddy..
BTW, that was a Congressional attempt at an Amendment, add 7 States and there is no need for Congress.
I suggest you read Article V of the US Constitution.
There are 9 states and the District of Columbia that recognize same sex marriage. Six of those states have passed laws in the past 4 years. So it seems like the momentum is to pass laws that allow same-sex marriage, rather than to deny them.

For example, every Republican law maker in the state of Rhode Island supports gay marriage.

Republicans are supporting gay marriage at a rate unseen in the past.

I doubt that a Constitutional Amendment is going to happen at this point.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#190541 Apr 29, 2013
akpilot wrote:
Opps!!
"Lesbian Activist’s Surprisingly Candid Speech: Gay Marriage Fight Is a ‘Lie’ to Destroy Marriage"
http://news.yahoo.com/lesbian-activist-surpri...
-“Gay marriage is a lie.”
-“Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we’re going to do with marriage when we get there.”
-“It’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist.”
-“I don’t see why they (her children) shouldn’t have five parents legally. I don’t see why we should choose two of those parents and make them a sanctioned couple.”
Do all straight people speak for you? Are there differing opinions re: same-sex marriage within the straight community? Why would you think that all gay people speak with a unified voice?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190542 Apr 29, 2013
Marram wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't get you panties in a twist, Hater. Just Relax.
Imitation is the sincerest from of flattery, hater.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#190543 Apr 29, 2013
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know if it is so much of a race, as a guarantee. I think if given enough time a majority of the States will adopt a form of same sex union, be it Marriage, or a Civil Union with the same benefits.
Now, the other side of the coin is that the SCOTUS makes another sweeping decision forcing all states into compliance, forcing the adoption of same sex marriage. This will cause 31 States which have adopted Constitutional Amendments to strictly define marriage as one man and one woman to feel disenfranchised, at a time when many feel that was as it is. A majority of the country is quite ticked off at Washington DC, and there is a push towards State right's and returning to the republican form of government our founders gave us. This could just be the straw that breaks the proverbial camels back.
My guess is that some of these states will attempt to pass nullification laws--claiming that the Supreme Court has overstepped its boundaries. But to my knowledge, no state has ever successfully been able to maintain a nullification law to override the Supreme Court.

The lawmakers here in TN are trying to pass a law that would allow local and state police to arrest and charge federal agents who might attempt to enforce any gun laws that TN lawmakers believes violates the Constitution. I say, "good luck with that".

I don't think you'll see a rush by all states to fight a sweeping Supreme Court decision.

Like I said earlier; too many states are headed towards legalizing same-sex marriage. Lawmakers in many of these states will take it as a welcome opportunity to have the decision made by someone else. They don't want to piss off those who support same-sex marriage and they don't want to piss off those who don't support it. So they'll just shrug their shoulders and say to their constituents, "It's out of our hands."

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#190544 Apr 29, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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There are 9 states and the District of Columbia that recognize same sex marriage. Six of those states have passed laws in the past 4 years. So it seems like the momentum is to pass laws that allow same-sex marriage, rather than to deny them.
Considering that only 1 State- Maine- has passed same sex marriage by popular vote I would hardly call it a "trend change."

But I do agree that public opinion is slowing changing, what you underestimate is the backlash should this change be forced by the SCOTUS. Think about it, Prop 8 was just such a backlash from a decision. So historically this is true. I honestly think had Prop 22 been allowed to stand in California, and Prop 8 was introduced with the only difference being to repeal prop 22, this wouldn't be in the judiciary at the moment. I am certain there were people that really had no interest in the issue that simply voted for Prop 8 to say f-u to the court, as well as this feeling- real or imagined- that this issue is being shoved down their throats.

The same is being seen with the resistance States are giving to "Obama Care." The American public can be very spiteful.
veryvermilion wrote:
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For example, every Republican law maker in the state of Rhode Island supports gay marriage.
You mean all 5 of them?

Seriously, this is more an exercise in politics. They are in a VERY liberal State, and to vote otherwise would surely ensure their demise.

That would be like a Democrat running as a mouth piece for gun control in Alaska and thinking they stood a chance at being elected.

It seems sometimes you really don't think things through.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#190545 Apr 29, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Do all straight people speak for you? Are there differing opinions re: same-sex marriage within the straight community? Why would you think that all gay people speak with a unified voice?
Like she said, you have to hide behind lies...

BTW, generally it is assumed that homosexuals make up about 4% of the population, straight 96%. So with only 4% you have a limited pool to pull from, I suggest you choose your spokespeople a little more carefully. BTW, her comments were met with HUGE applause, so I would say at least a size-able portion agree with her.

But in all honesty I don't give a damn about the agenda, I just find it funny how quickly you guys will throw someone under the bus.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#190546 Apr 29, 2013
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Considering that only 1 State- Maine- has passed same sex marriage by popular vote I would hardly call it a "trend change."
But I do agree that public opinion is slowing changing, what you underestimate is the backlash should this change be forced by the SCOTUS. Think about it, Prop 8 was just such a backlash from a decision. So historically this is true. I honestly think had Prop 22 been allowed to stand in California, and Prop 8 was introduced with the only difference being to repeal prop 22, this wouldn't be in the judiciary at the moment. I am certain there were people that really had no interest in the issue that simply voted for Prop 8 to say f-u to the court, as well as this feeling- real or imagined- that this issue is being shoved down their throats.
The same is being seen with the resistance States are giving to "Obama Care." The American public can be very spiteful.
<quoted text>
You mean all 5 of them?
Seriously, this is more an exercise in politics. They are in a VERY liberal State, and to vote otherwise would surely ensure their demise.
That would be like a Democrat running as a mouth piece for gun control in Alaska and thinking they stood a chance at being elected.
It seems sometimes you really don't think things through.
Well, it would be up to the lawmakers in those states to try to pass an Amendment to the Constitution--not the voters. So, I'm not so concerned about what individual voters might or might not do.

And you seem to forget that Proposition 8 will be five years old come November. And the backlash to that backlash has been the overwhelming support of CA voters who would not likely vote for such a ballot today.

Times have changed considerably. Republican lawmakers at all levels have changed their personal views re: same-sex marriage. And many of these lawmakers DO NOT want to be forced to stand against same-sex marriage. They would welcome the Supreme Court's ability to make a sweeping decision.

I stand by my predictions.

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