Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#186089 Apr 1, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd like to vote for Jesus "Tap-Dancing" Christ. He's always a crowd-pleaser. The way He busts out those old soft-shoe renditions, mannnn..... When He starts to lay down the old "Bethlehem Hustle", the crowd always goes wild.
Yeah but Buddha is always smiling at the crowd

and donít rule out Shiva, a true multitasker

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#186090 Apr 1, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
My point is that in this country we DON'T make laws based on religion!! Get that through your thick skull!!!
Why is Christmas a federal holiday?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186091 Apr 1, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>Truth be known we'll never know until we die! Unfortunately for most of you, you will be proven wrong and have to spend eternity being reminded of it. But how about we all start getting ready for the war that's about to happen! How much is your self righteous gay pride going to mean to you, when you are being overrun and slaughtered by slant eyed zipper heads?!
and my not be known even then

First off, I am not gay, I am married, a father and grandfather.

I am for equal rights as an American for my fellow Americans even if they may be different than myself. I consider my support of same sex marriage as a patriotic duty, and I am proud of my patriotism. I think right should be done, even if I didnít approve of them. Which doesnít happen to be the case here just making a point. Although the same sex marriage debate will not affect me or anyone in my immediate family ( that I am aware of ) it makes no difference, as an American I fight for freedom, justice and equality.

I really donít know what your "slant eyed zipperheads" comment is about, but I am not a racist, I take each individual as they come, anyone that judges by a racial grouping is ignorant by definition.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186092 Apr 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
and my not be known even then
First off, I am not gay, I am married, a father and grandfather.
I am for equal rights as an American for my fellow Americans even if they may be different than myself. I consider my support of same sex marriage as a patriotic duty, and I am proud of my patriotism. I think right should be done, even if I didnít approve of them. Which doesnít happen to be the case here just making a point. Although the same sex marriage debate will not affect me or anyone in my immediate family ( that I am aware of ) it makes no difference, as an American I fight for freedom, justice and equality.
I really donít know what your "slant eyed zipperheads" comment is about, but I am not a racist, I take each individual as they come, anyone that judges by a racial grouping is ignorant by definition.
Oy. Spare us.
Stogies

Covina, CA

#186093 Apr 1, 2013
P P Hood could have save us all from Mit Romney and his kind, butt they intermarried cousins sisters etc..

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#186094 Apr 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Ss couples are a direct failure of the primary goal of evolution.

Government interest in the sole safe birthplace of societies members was to protect and provide for the wife and offspring.

Man up Jared, you don't need to deplete resources from women and children!

Smile.
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
Believe me I have paid my fair share of taxes in my life, most of which goes to education of which I don't have children so as far as that goes I and every other gay person without children are the ones paying into society's costs without reaping the benefits. Maybe you should worry about the unwed mothers that keep popping out kids to get bigger food stamp checks and all of the other fee crap we give people. They are the ones depleting our resources yes the mothers and children.
What does taxes that we all pay have to do with the most basic essence of marriage? You have no basis of equating ss couples with marriage, so you ignore the very basis for claiming equality? Is that all you've got???

My taxes pay for the consequences of AIDS, primarily the result of homosexual behavior. There are countless things I could list. But out of all of them, supporting children and marriage deserves societies' highest care. You disagree (now that you've been taken care of...)?

Moreover, you list the devastating result of easy divorce as a excuse to undefine marriage even more! Really!? That's your logic???

You are a perfect example of why ss couples don't qualify and shouldn't.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#186096 Apr 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>Jarboy, your ignorance is showing. You are confusing Christianity and Judaism to start with.

You also are confusing different types of Judaic law (Ceremonial, health and identity), at the expense of ignoring the profound distinction those Laws had on a single culture.

All of this to justify a evolutionary defect that seeks to equate the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex with natural, normal sex.

Do you see how stupid your denial has made you???

Smirk.
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
Anal sex really you went there? Over 70% of heterosexuals have tried anal sex so don't limit your hate toward gays.
You get called on a dumb ass (pun intended) desecration of TWO major religions, and you simply ignore it? Have you NO shame???

If you are going to make idiotic claims, man up and answer for them!

Moreover, your defense is that if heterosexuals engage in inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning behavior (your stat is a gay twirl BS lie by the way), that excuses gays??? Do you really think you should be on a debate site???

Like I said, do you see how stupid your denial has made you?

Unbelievable.

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#186097 Apr 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>If you want a contract, go get a lawyer, you don't need to dumb down marriage to do that.

Snicker.
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think you need the gays help to dumb down or ruin the sanctity of marriage. I'm pretty sure the heteros are doing a good enough job of that themselves.
Snicker
The last time the government messed with marriage, it resulted in the most drastic drop in children's social healthy our nation has ever seen.

Which still has nothing to do with the contract you demand. Go get one and leave marriage alone. You clearly have no basis to claim marriage.

Snicker.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#186098 Apr 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>So racism and gender abuse is a result of Christianity?

Do you see the hateful, ignorant bigotry in that 'logic'???

In 8000 years of human history, every single culture has had marriage.

In 8000 years of human history, not ONE SINGLE culture has embraced calling ss couples married from the start of the culture to end. Nowhere has that perversion established itself and spread.

In the extremely rare places where it did appear, it quickly disappeared.

Things don't look real good for you historically Jarboy...

Snicker.
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
Historically things evolve. I know you religious freaks don't like the theory of evolution that is based on science not some fictional story. Really an ark that held 2 of every animal for how long? Mathematically impossible for a boat to have been that large. Women had no rights at one time nor did blacks. So historically evolving as a society looks pretty damn good for me I would say. It's bigots and people that speak hatred like you that need to let others live their lives how they want not how you want them to. I could care less what you do sexually and with who so why are you so concerned with what I do sexually and with who? Curiosity?
Apparently calling ss couples 'married' hasn't evolved yet. And history doesn't predict that will change.

Now I'm a 'religious freak'? Is that your new line of 'reasoning'? Did you discover that from the content of my post above? Or maybe it is my quote of the basic essence of marriage,'a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior'. Sounds Christian to you? Really???

AND you got 'hatred' from that too!? A historical fact and a scientific reality means I'm hateful... Jarboy, Jarboy... Are you sure this is the site for you?

Just a heads up. I'm a redeemed cynic who remains barbarian. I delight in sinking the knife of reality to the hilt into the belly of denial and twisting it with a smirk.

You keep saying 'ouch' followed by really stupid, idiotic responses.

Smile.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#186099 Apr 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah but Buddha is always smiling at the crowd
and donít rule out Shiva, a true multitasker
Don't forget Mr. Rogers, Big D, he loves you just the way u are. Even from heaven.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#186100 Apr 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

The only prevailing interest a government has in marriage is to protect and support the sole safe birthplace of society's members.

The government has no prevailing interest in selectively supporting friendships.

Bazinga!
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
So in your theory couples that never bear children aren't really married? If its just for mating and reproduction?
First of all, it's not my theory, it is the prevailing theory of life. You don't believe in evolution?

Second, where did I ever indicate that childless couples are not really married. To my knowledge, that has never been questioned by anyone, or a problem for anyone, until totally desolate, barren redumbant gendered couples wanted to claim marriage.

Third, what prevailing interest does the government have in selectively supporting friendships? Once again, you are trying to avoid the real issue.

Do you ever have ANY real defense of the points being made?

Snicker smile.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#186101 Apr 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong

USA law is based on English law which was based on Roman law which was largely borrowed from Greek law which origin outdates any current religion today.
Thank you. You beat me to dismissing his argument.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#186102 Apr 1, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>Why is Christmas a federal holiday?
Come on government workers would take off any extra day with pay if they could. Yes it's a holiday widely celebrated in this country. Just remember its told to be a fat man that lives at the North Pole. Just more lies that religion shoves down children's throats.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#186103 Apr 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>and my not be known even then

First off, I am not gay, I am married, a father and grandfather.

I am for equal rights as an American for my fellow Americans even if they may be different than myself. I consider my support of same sex marriage as a patriotic duty, and I am proud of my patriotism. I think right should be done, even if I didn’t approve of them. Which doesn’t happen to be the case here just making a point. Although the same sex marriage debate will not affect me or anyone in my immediate family ( that I am aware of ) it makes no difference, as an American I fight for freedom, justice and equality.

I really don’t know what your "slant eyed zipperheads" comment is about, but I am not a racist, I take each individual as they come, anyone that judges by a racial grouping is ignorant by definition.
Thank you for being a married man that supports me trying to have the same rights as you when I get married. More people need to be like you. You are confident in your sexuality and beliefs but don't impose them upon others. We can all have our beliefs and thinks we think are right or wrong but if the law allows something that you don't like or agree with get over it and don't do it. If you don't like porn don't watch it. If you don't agree with abortion don't have one. If you don't like guns don't buy one. It you don't like spiders well you are screwed they are everywhere. My point is not everyone has the same likes and beliefs. In this country we can all believe and Iike what we want but don't make others conform with your ideas or beliefs.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#186104 Apr 1, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
Come on government workers would take off any extra day with pay if they could. Yes it's a holiday widely celebrated in this country. Just remember its told to be a fat man that lives at the North Pole. Just more lies that religion shoves down children's throats.
Christ mass

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#186105 Apr 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Ss couples are a direct failure of the primary goal of evolution.

Government interest in the sole safe birthplace of societies members was to protect and provide for the wife and offspring.

Man up Jared, you don't need to deplete resources from women and children!

Smile.

What does taxes that we all pay have to do with the most basic essence of marriage? You have no basis of equating ss couples with marriage, so you ignore the very basis for claiming equality? Is that all you've got???

My taxes pay for the consequences of AIDS, primarily the result of homosexual behavior. There are countless things I could list. But out of all of them, supporting children and marriage deserves societies' highest care. You disagree (now that you've been taken care of...)?

Moreover, you list the devastating result of easy divorce as a excuse to undefine marriage even more! Really!? That's your logic???

You are a perfect example of why ss couples don't qualify and shouldn't.

Smile.
Cut and paste the same thing. Have your own thoughts and more than one you keep using over and over.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#186106 Apr 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>Jarboy, your ignorance is showing. You are confusing Christianity and Judaism to start with.

You also are confusing different types of Judaic law (Ceremonial, health and identity), at the expense of ignoring the profound distinction those Laws had on a single culture.

All of this to justify a evolutionary defect that seeks to equate the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex with natural, normal sex.

Do you see how stupid your denial has made you???

Smirk.

You get called on a dumb ass (pun intended) desecration of TWO major religions, and you simply ignore it? Have you NO shame???

If you are going to make idiotic claims, man up and answer for them!

Moreover, your defense is that if heterosexuals engage in inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning behavior (your stat is a gay twirl BS lie by the way), that excuses gays??? Do you really think you should be on a debate site???

Like I said, do you see how stupid your denial has made you?

Unbelievable.

Smirk.
What does your comment about confusing religions have to do with anal sex?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#186107 Apr 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
and my not be known even then
First off, I am not gay, I am married, a father and grandfather.
I am for equal rights as an American for my fellow Americans even if they may be different than myself. I consider my support of same sex marriage as a patriotic duty, and I am proud of my patriotism. I think right should be done, even if I didnít approve of them. Which doesnít happen to be the case here just making a point. Although the same sex marriage debate will not affect me or anyone in my immediate family ( that I am aware of ) it makes no difference, as an American I fight for freedom, justice and equality.
I really donít know what your "slant eyed zipperheads" comment is about, but I am not a racist, I take each individual as they come, anyone that judges by a racial grouping is ignorant by definition.
"....as an American I fight for freedom, justice and equality."

I bet you wear a cape with a "Big D" on it while doing it too. Don't forget poly rights.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186108 Apr 1, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
"....as an American I fight for freedom, justice and equality."
I bet you wear a cape with a "Big D" on it while doing it too. Don't forget poly rights.
Too funny!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186109 Apr 1, 2013

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