Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,038

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185599 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>

...some of the people who post here need to be studied by mental health professional...
Starting with you and Pancake Dan.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185600 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
a sixteen year old gay male, who REALLY REALLY wants to date a man twice his age??
qualifies as a "non-troversy"...
fact is, you cANT keep them apart if they LOve each other!!
It qualifies as a felony. Don't do it.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#185601 Mar 30, 2013
Was Harvey Milk perfect? No... Did anyone think that he would become known worldwide as an outspoken advocate for gay rights? Probably not...

He was unique in that he had a vision of what the world could be like for gays. And he was a product of the times--the sexual revolution--the free love movement.

It's highly unlikely that he would have gone much further in politics other than the city office he briefly held. We'll never know since he was gunned down.

And it was his killing that really galvanized the gay community in San Francisco, which eventually spread across the country.

So, say what you will about Harvey Milk and his personal mistakes, but his life and murder is one of the things that started the modern LGBT movement. Just because you don't agree with the way he lived his early personal life, you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Furthermore, I guarantee there are high ranking politicians who are in office today, who also have skeletons in their closets.

Does that mean that their positive impact on society should be tossed out?

Martin Luther King Jr. is alleged to have been an adulterer. Should that make his powerful movement for civil rights any less of an accomplishment?

John F. Kennedy was also a womanizer. But he did amazing things.

FDR had affairs. Yet he is considered to be one of the greatest presidents our country has ever seen.

Strom Thurmond, who held great political power for many, many years. When he was 23, he had an "affair" with his mother's 15 year old maid. She became pregnant and gave birth to Essie Mae Washington-Williams.

Thurmond was elected Governor of South Carolina in 1947 and stayed in politics as a U.S. senator until 2003.

Obviously, today we look at Thurmond's record regarding racial inequality and think of him as a bigot. But for many, many years, the state of South Carolina heralded him.

I guess what I hope that you take way from this is that people make mistakes in their lives. Some atone for their errors, some don't. But there is a tenet of Christianity regarding "forgiveness".

And I think that in Harvey's situation, as well as other people's lives, we would do well to remember that core, Christian principle.
jose cruze III

AOL

#185602 Mar 30, 2013
the gay marriage agenda is the beginning of a diabolical trend to make the homosexual life style legitimate ,..
it is a plan that envisions the gay life style as totally 'normal' and acceptable through out the American society and eventually the world

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#185603 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
a sixteen year old gay male, who REALLY REALLY wants to date a man twice his age??
qualifies as a "non-troversy"...
fact is, you cANT keep them apart if they LOve each other!!
Maybe you can take a stand for Sandusky.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#185604 Mar 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
Was Harvey Milk perfect? No...
We are not talking about a sin here, he broke the law.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#185605 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
a sixteen year old gay male, who REALLY REALLY wants to date a man twice his age??
qualifies as a "non-troversy"...
fact is, you cANT keep them apart if they LOve each other!!
Respect the laws pervert. Love can wait til the age of 18

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#185606 Mar 30, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not suggesting that it is okay for someone in their 30s to be having sexual relationships with teenagers, but you need to realise that sex with a 16 y.o. doesn't make one a pedophile.
What ever it's called, it's illegal and the fact that milk preyed on boys that age would qualify him for some bad name.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185607 Mar 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
Was Harvey Milk perfect? No... Did anyone think that he would become known worldwide as an outspoken advocate for gay rights? Probably not...
He was unique in that he had a vision of what the world could be like for gays. And he was a product of the times--the sexual revolution--the free love movement.
It's highly unlikely that he would have gone much further in politics other than the city office he briefly held. We'll never know since he was gunned down.
And it was his killing that really galvanized the gay community in San Francisco, which eventually spread across the country.
So, say what you will about Harvey Milk and his personal mistakes, but his life and murder is one of the things that started the modern LGBT movement. Just because you don't agree with the way he lived his early personal life, you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Furthermore, I guarantee there are high ranking politicians who are in office today, who also have skeletons in their closets.
Does that mean that their positive impact on society should be tossed out?
Martin Luther King Jr. is alleged to have been an adulterer. Should that make his powerful movement for civil rights any less of an accomplishment?
John F. Kennedy was also a womanizer. But he did amazing things.
FDR had affairs. Yet he is considered to be one of the greatest presidents our country has ever seen.
Strom Thurmond, who held great political power for many, many years. When he was 23, he had an "affair" with his mother's 15 year old maid. She became pregnant and gave birth to Essie Mae Washington-Williams.
Thurmond was elected Governor of South Carolina in 1947 and stayed in politics as a U.S. senator until 2003.
Obviously, today we look at Thurmond's record regarding racial inequality and think of him as a bigot. But for many, many years, the state of South Carolina heralded him.
I guess what I hope that you take way from this is that people make mistakes in their lives. Some atone for their errors, some don't. But there is a tenet of Christianity regarding "forgiveness".
And I think that in Harvey's situation, as well as other people's lives, we would do well to remember that core, Christian principle.
There is a proposal to name SFO after Harvey Milk. I don't know what's become of it. I have no problem with it, it reflects San Francisco's colorful history and diversity.

And it will make for good jokes from my crude New York relatives when they come to visit! I can hear them now..."We'll be "flying" into Harvey Milk Airport around 'cock'tail hour..."

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#185608 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
HE SEES what he WANTS to see...
he is only in his late 40's, but he might as well belong to his dad's generation.
Or I respect the law, even when I was 18, I never had sex with a girl underage. And when I was 30, I never would think of having any kind of sexual relationship with a 16 year old.
jose cruze III

AOL

#185609 Mar 30, 2013
we have hear about sandusky - to the point of ad nauseam -
but the press is silent ,....when it comes to the set of 'sesame street',it turns out that was a hot bed of male homosexual pedophilia -
the main stream press refuses to touch it
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185610 Mar 30, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Respect the laws pervert. Love can wait til the age of 18
you can spread your message of "love' to the proper parties..

:)
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185611 Mar 30, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Or I respect the law, even when I was 18, I never had sex with a girl underage. And when I was 30, I never would think of having any kind of sexual relationship with a 16 year old.
whatever!

it happens...

deal.

mabey it is a good reason to be Pro-birth control

but i think you are?? right?
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185612 Mar 30, 2013
jose cruze III wrote:
the gay marriage agenda is the beginning of a diabolical trend to make the homosexual life style legitimate ,..
it is a plan that envisions the gay life style as totally 'normal' and acceptable through out the American society and eventually the world
I think that would be a pertainate post if it were 1975...

the world already passed you by...

sorry.

gay marraige being voted on9by states) and accepted, is officially a "nontroversy"..the first one was almost 10 years ago

because the courts are likely going to refer to states rule(the tenth) and let the progressive states approve it, while letting the bigots stew in their hatred, and oppress their gay folks...

congradulations!!
anti gay

Santee, CA

#185613 Mar 30, 2013
They should all burn in hell!!!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#185614 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
you can spread your message of "love' to the proper parties..
:)
both parties support that law, pervert.
jose cruze III

AOL

#185615 Mar 30, 2013
the gay life style can never be legitimate ,...
no matter what the so called modern progressives do to manipulate the truth ,..
the acceptance of such an agenda reflects the dementia of western society
the progressive movement is the bellwether , eventually resulting in the death of western civilization
and ..essentially guaranteeing the Muslims will eventually dominate the earth
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185616 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
whatever!
it happens...
deal.
mabey it is a good reason to be Pro-birth control
but i think you are?? right?
Bet you wouldn't say "whatever! it happens..." if some 30 year old greasy slob was slick-legging your 16 year old daughter tough guy.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#185617 Mar 30, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
The overwhelming tide is to allow gay marriage. I wouldn't worry about those diminishing squinty eyed fools not liking it. Within 10 years it will be a non-issue if Tommy Two Tones wants to marry Slim Jim.
After that it will be a non issue if Kody marries, legally his wives.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#185618 Mar 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a "non-issue" too Pancake.
Atta boy Frankie.... Welcome back paisan.

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