Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D wrote:
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Our founders disagreed with you, and created it as a document that could be changed and has been changed quite a number of times.
Yes it is meant to be difficult and time consuming and I think that is a good thing as well.
There are dramatic changes to that document, ones some of our founders would not have even imagined.
Some were mistakes, and reversed later
There is no question, it is an excellent document, and its power comes from the fact that it is a changeable document over the years.
The founders didn't disagree, they wrote Article V.

The problem is you don't want to use the process, you want to bypass the Amendment process and the States and simply use the court.

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Then why do the D's keep repeating history?
Because they're really no different from the Rs in this respect.
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The Democrats and the birth of American imperialism
I want to take this occasion to say that the United States will never again seek one additional foot of territory by conquest.
—Woodrow Wilson, 19133
Democratic President Woodrow Wilson’s rationale for modern imperialism, in which “the flag follows commerce,” contained no lofty appeals to freedom and democracy:
Since trade ignores national boundaries and the manufacturer insists on having the world as a market, the flag of his nation must follow him, and the doors of the nations which are closed against him must be battered down. Concessions obtained by financiers must be safeguarded by ministers of state, even if the sovereignty of unwilling nations be outraged in the process. Colonies must be obtained or planted, in order that no useful corner of the world may be overlooked or left unused.4
Wilson wrote these words just after the Spanish-American War that began in 1898, which launched the U.S. as an imperial contender. A “splendid little war”—as the New York papers dubbed it—during which Cuba became a sugar colony of the U.S., Puerto Rico began its long history as a U.S.“protectorate,” and 8 million Filipinos were subjected to brutalities beginning the very day that Rudyard Kipling published his poem calling upon the U.S. to “Take up the White Man’s burden.”5
Wilson, the mild-mannered professor from Princeton who opposed women’s suffrage, established a reputation for warmongering and brutality that was to become a hallmark of Democratic Party foreign policy. He intervened in more countries where he stationed troops for longer periods of time than had the previous Republican administrations of Teddy Roosevelt and William Howard Taft combined.
Aside from dispatching troops to Europe in the waning years of the First World War, Wilson’s presidency exercised “gunboat diplomacy,” sending in the marines to Mexico, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Cuba, Panama, the Soviet Union, Honduras, China, and Guatemala. The raid on Haiti, where U.S. troops remained for 19 years, is instructive as to the ways of Democratic methods. When National City Bank in New York insisted that the Haitian customhouses relinquish a hefty amount of the only existing reserves of Haitian capital, they refused. American troops landed at Port au Prince in December 1914 and stole $500,000 that they then loaded onto their gunship and deposited in the vaults of National City Bank. After a series of uprisings that ended in the assassination of the Haitian president, U.S. troops launched a full-blown occupation, killed thousands who resisted, disbanded the Haitian military, trained a puppet force under direct leadership of U.S. officers, and built the infrastructure necessary to turn Haiti into the haven for cheap labor that it remains today. he Nation reported that,“Those who protested or resisted were beaten into submissionÖ.Those attempting to escape were shot.”

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hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
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Im getting the picture....
you like the original version of the constitution the best...
the one without all those pesky additions that came later.
if we left you guys alone on a date with the constitution??
we WOULD NOT get back anything recognizable.
You are a lost cause, and you hardly- "get the picture"

Based on your incoherant posts with all your disconnected thought's I'm not even sure you understand your own position let alone that of another.

You should put the bong down for a bit and let the fog clear.

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hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
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public opinion does indeed drive the court.....
the justices’ voting
behavior is largely a product of their own ideological pref-
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sheesh void of hate wrote:
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Be careful what you say. Our politics swing like a pendulum. Eventually the "other" party takes over. It isn't because the "other" party has come up with a spectacular solution for the problems at hand, it is because the one with the most power has done such a spectactular job of disappointing us.
I agree, they take turns, every 8 years.

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hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
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Im getting the picture....
It's a sad picture of you being taken away again.
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It's about money not marriage. Single people dont't receive financial breaks for being single. It's always about the greenbacks.

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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>But according to hemp head, you are a bigot for comparing gay lifestyles to animals.
Did I ever talk to Hemp Head? I think you're just trying to stir things up. Probably not a good idea.
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RiccardoFire wrote:
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lets be clear....

the attourney argueing FOR DOMA, admitted in open court, that the intent of DOMA was bigoted, with bigotry written in(by way of religion)

didnt you listen to the tapes??

sheesh, and to think i actaully reply to your posts!!
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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I agree, they take turns, every 8 years.
not if the tea turds get their way...

like i said, were eagerly awaiting for you to put forth a 'real conservative" .....then you can see how much america likes that FAR reich wing corporate/soclially oppresive agenda..

you rethugs will be wooped soundly.

but we still need to keep you around(in a petri dish), to show future generations what NOT TO DO.
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Did I ever talk to Hemp Head? I think you're just trying to stir things up. Probably not a good idea.
m not exactly a "hemp head' as hekp and cannabis are two related, but different plants...

I DO have a medical recomendation to use MMj for slipped disks in my back, suffered when i was 15.
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not if the tea turds get their way...
like i said, were eagerly awaiting for you to put forth a 'real conservative" .....then you can see how much america likes that FAR reich wing corporate/soclially oppresive agenda..
you rethugs will be wooped soundly.
but we still need to keep you around(in a petri dish), to show future generations what NOT TO DO.
I wish they finally would run that "real conservative" and get it out of their system

It will be the landslide of the century against them
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The founders didn't disagree, they wrote Article V.
The problem is you don't want to use the process, you want to bypass the Amendment process and the States and simply use the court.
please point to the post where I said I wanted to bypass the process.

or admit you are lying ( or making an ass out of yourself by assuming )

thanks

I think the process is a good one, used quite a number of times successfully ( and even more times unsuccessfully ) as it should be

“Vita e' Bella.”

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Be careful what you say. Our politics swing like a pendulum. Eventually the "other" party takes over. It isn't because the "other" party has come up with a spectacular solution for the problems at hand, it is because the one with the most power has done such a spectactular job of disappointing us.
Remember boys and girls the American Eagle has two wings, a left and a right, both are needed for it to fly. Hempty Dumbty wants to cut off the right wing and keep the eagle grounded.
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we don't need to prove why queers should get the same rights as hetero married coulples. It is proof enough that queers lived in closets for the better part of their lives, that in itself says its wrong.
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What a lovely, yet meaningless metaphor. The right wing is cancerous. Cut it off.
my favorite un-exsupportable metaphor from a right winger??

mike huckabee compared letting gays legally marry to lowering a basket ball hoop from 8 to 6 feet.

another methaphor for gay marraige being LESS THAN equal(in their eyes) to staright marriage.

go figure.
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Bruno wrote:
we don't need to prove why queers should get the same rights as hetero married coulples. It is proof enough that queers lived in closets for the better part of their lives, that in itself says its wrong.
you are a typical example of why education in this nation needs a huge overhaul, and LOTs of money..
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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Remember boys and girls the American Eagle has two wings, a left and a right, both are needed for it to fly. Hempty Dumbty wants to cut off the right wing and keep the eagle grounded.
that is up to your party!!

how irrelevant you become is entirly up to people like you.

if you keep up with the campaign of exclusion...

like voter supression, vaginal probes, union busting, medicare voucherzing?

you guys keep pushing for tax breaks for the wealthy...

the war on Gays is classic!! there are still people on your side talking about a constittuional ban on Same sex marriage.

start by being more inclusive to gays, minorities and women.....

then you might have a chance...

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Rose_NoHo.
That's easy for the Homosexual and non-Homosexual "Blacks" and the lesbians to say, but how long are we dog lovers going to be denied our RIGHT to marry the Honeys of our own choosing? How would YOU like to be a "second class citizen", as well as having to suffer the H8ate of the majority?
Ronald
Sorry, Ronald, dogs eat cat poop out of the box, but they do have some standards. No dog would marry you.

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