Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,146

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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hemp for telelgraphs

Anderson, CA

#185004 Mar 27, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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So the Democraps will nominate....?
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Hillarity will steamroll anyone....oh sure
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Nah.....ya might say the wind blew in at just the right time to put Obama back in.
Id say the 47% video had a bit more of an effect on the outcome of the election. mitt was almost tied with Obama before that.....

then he plummeted 10 pts in 10 days...

if you guys didnt get that amercia rejected your ideas??

then double down on stoopid, and ill hand ya the next shovel...

hint: minorities vote on policy just like white people do.

so trying to restrict their voting, might not be seen as the nicest thing you could be doing to court their votes.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#185005 Mar 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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"All but settled"?!? Are you kidding me?!? Show me one scientist who has said this. Bring me one serious, scholarly article that implies this.
Scientists have discussed these issues ON PAPER! They've not even tried to show how this works on lab rats or any other test subjects at this point. No laboratory has started a project to prove it that we know of.
This is a THEORY. It is not FACT. It is not "all but settled".
Good GOD, you REALLY missed out on the scientific method when you were in school.
Here's a refresher's course:
Scientific Method Step 1: Ask a Question (Why are their gay people?)
Scientific Method Step 2: Make Observations and Conduct Background Research (Not all people are gay, there must be a reason for this)
Scientific Method Step 3: Propose a Hypothesis (based on information gathered from reading other research, perhaps epigenetics or some other biological inheritance related process that would explain why people are gay)**by the way, this is as far as scientists have gotten with regards to determining if epigenetics play a role**
Scientific Method Step 4: Design an Experiment to Test the Hypothesis (it's at this point a scientist would design a LABORATORY EXPERIMENT to see if epigenetics do play a role in homosexuality)
Scientific Method Step 5: Test the Hypothesis (scientists would run their experiment and record the results)
Scientific Method Step 6: Accept or Reject the Hypothesis (based on the results of the experiment, the scientists would either accept their hypothesis that epigenetics play a role in homosexuality or they would not)
Sorry to have to publicly school you on basic, grade school science, but your blatant lack of scientific knowledge makes it necessary.
Weve found a story that looks really good, concluded Rice in the U.S. News article.Theres more verification needed, but we point out how we can easily do epigenetic profiles genome-wide. We predict where the epi-marks occur, we just need other studies to look at it empirically. This can be tested and proven within six months. Its easy to test. If its a bad idea, we can throw it away in short order.

http://www.lifebeyondtherapy.com/index.php...
entry-132-researchers-say-they -have-found-genetic-switches-f or-homosexuality/

I wonder if another stage of denial is possible for you?

Smile.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185006 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
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actaully,im pro 2nd amendment rights.
Im for your right to OWN YOUR PEICE..
that post was more about the fact that you had to sign a loyaty plegde JUST to hear what they were pitching.
when you are an activist??
you try to get your message out.
unless you are somehow ashamed of the message you are lecturing on...other wise, you are just going to be preaching to the choir.
background checks make sense, so does an assault rifle ban.
as well as limiting clip size (lets face it, you can have as much ammo as you can carry)
90% of the country supports background checks...
Cool. I think that background checks are good in essence, but useless in practice. Limited clip size and assault rifle bans are wrong, to me, as a criminal may have a bigger clip, and not all shots hit the mark. Also, the purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to allow us to guard against government aggression. I am an activist just about all the time. I currently drive semis and spend a lot of time on my radio, engaging in activism. And I get called a lot of names, some good, some bad. It goes with the territory.
And that loyalty pledge is a bunch of hooey, in my opinion. Anyone should be able to hear what is being said publicly. But there might have been some talk that would have bordered on subjects not in line with Big Brother. Who's to say? "No just government fears an armed population"
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185007 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
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unfortunatley i wont find a copy of such a fine interpretation in any place but the south.
you seem to long for old days, before the thirteeth amendment.
Just for the record, I was born in N.Y. to British parents. Not raised in the South. I long for the days when reason ruled, not debauchery or Bacchanalia...

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#185008 Mar 27, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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tehn you might explain that to the attornies arguing the cases before the judges then. it was referenced even in SCOTUS yesterday.
I don't need to, the court has already explained it. Again if you people would actually do some actual research instead of simply taking everything you read on a liberal blog and repeating it you might actually learn something.
"Plaintiffs' reliance on Loving v Virginia (388 US 1 [1967]) for the proposition that the US Supreme Court has established a fundamental "right to marry the spouse of one's choice" outside the male/female construct is misplaced."..."In its brief due process analysis, the Supreme Court reiterated that marriage is a right "fundamental to our very existence and survival" (id., citing Skinner, 316 US at 541)a clear reference to the link between marriage and procreation. It reasoned: "To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes ... is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law" (id.). Although the Court characterized the right to marry as a "choice," it did not articulate the broad "right to marry the spouse of one's choice" suggested by plaintiffs here. Rather, the Court observed that "[t]he Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discriminations" (id.[emphasis added]).[FN2] Needless to say, a statutory scheme that burdens a fundamental right by making conduct criminal based on the race of the individual who engages in it is inimical to the{**7 NY3d at 372} values embodied in the state and federal Due Process clauses. Far from recognizing a right to marry extending beyond the one woman and one man union,[FN3] it is evident from the Loving decision that the Supreme Court viewed marriage as fundamental precisely because of its relationship to human procreation.[FN4][*13]"- Hernandez v Robles
hemp for telelgraphs

Anderson, CA

#185009 Mar 27, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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No, see, that is what I am telling you. It doesn't matter who they hold up as running, because the results have already been decided. Jeb has announced that he is going to run. his family runs this country. It is a done deal, already. Seriously, google "Bush Crime Family' and read about all that they have done so far. Financed the Third Reich. All kinds of shit. They own us. And, not my party.
I dont know anything about the Bush family financing the third reich?? that seems a bit far fethched and something id hear from within your party, as part of a civil war, in your party.

those were NOt very nice words sarah had for karl at cpac.
now sHE is kinda a nazi.... the new new rethugs.

the Bush family is heavily involved with the saudi royal family because they are both more or less in the same business, energy.

JEb doesnt stand a snowballs chance in the primaries...

or didnt you watch in 12'??

the orthodoxy of your party made the primary season like a clip art web site, for democratic party, general election attack ads on the rethugs.

some of the wacky things that were said!!!! my goodness.

tacking back to the center(to win) from THAT loonacy, would be hard for anyone, even with all the corporate cash in the world.

mitt tried, ill give him that.

but during the primaries, as i recall it was "ANYBODY BUT MITT"
as four candidates from the far reich, made separate runs at the mad Mitt for front runner status....
...including religious zealot rick santorum!! I was impressed and entertained all at once...
santorum came out against college education, condoms and JFK, all in ONE week!

I swear, no one will beat hilly bags if she want the job....

all the political wind in the world is behind her run....

and that includes bush family baggage and how loony your party has become since the last bush left office.

ps; two wars, crashed economy, bad rethuglican, no whitehouse.
Skinned

La Puente, CA

#185010 Mar 27, 2013
Oh shut the prickly par up.

Blow it out your bag pipes.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185011 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
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who would ever take serious you or your party??
you guys think sharia law is invading the us, and hillary clintons aide is with the muslim brotherhood.
not to mention still being lost in birther land.
is obama a kenyan commo-facist?? or a islamo facsist...
could he be both??....ill bet he could, on the glen beck show.
Which party would that be? Islam has declared that it must take over the entire world, that the End of Days will only come when Islam resides in every house. I've lived all over this world, and have known many Muslims. Most are not the fanatics that they are made out to be. But, fundamentalists are dangerous, whichever flag they wave.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185012 Mar 27, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Yes even the economic part also was directly related to slavery.
I dont know if you are implying that there was not an abolitionist movement and that Lincoln was not directly connected to that movement before taking office, if you dont realize that you need to do some more reading in history
His involvement and election was directly involved in the first states succeeding as they know they would not be able to maintain an equal number of slave state with Lincoln as president
Yes, slavery was the target, meant to hit the economic power that the South held.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#185013 Mar 27, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I dont think DOMA can survive the events today
DOMA has been unconstitutional since it was passed. It should not have taken this long for the SCOTUS to hear and toss it as nonsense.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185014 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
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I forgot, rethuglicans dont do polls...
this was obvious when you guys thought you were about to win by a landslaide, last fall.
what rude awakening that must have been!!
the 538(nate silver) polls nailed it......
mabey you should pay attention to him next time, instead of piggy rove, or rush.
I don't pay any of them any attention, to be honest... I distrust any official media anymore.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185015 Mar 27, 2013
Big D wrote:
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No I am telling you something you are ignorant of, a majority of American are in favor of Same sex marriage and that means tremendous support form heterosexuals
Then, why (to risk more laughter from your side), when I am out in the world, and asking just anybody what they think of these issues, do I not find these supporters? Why is it that most people that I am around do not care at all, and of those that do care, most disapprove? Straight up, where are these supporters? I know that the idea of some random guy asking strangers questions might seem odd, but it is the best way I have of performing unbiased testing of these claims. And I do try to be unbiased in testing these claims. Believe that.
Locked Uppers

La Puente, CA

#185016 Mar 27, 2013
Motorist Followed, Then Stabbed at South Hills Park, Glendora, California.

The incident occurred at 8:54 p.m. March 26, 2013 Tuesday night in Glendora, according to some who call themselves authorities.

If this park was locked at sunset as all parks are required in Glendora then this wouldn't happen at all.

Both Chris Jeffers and the GPD are at fault for this and many more problems brewing in Glendora, California.

Both are involved in politics to further their pocket books and political careers.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#185017 Mar 27, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>you may dislike their ruling. you may disagree with their ruling. but the laws will be what they will be.
You may dislike reality. You may disagree with reality. But reality will be what it will be.

Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

ss couples aren't.

Smile.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185019 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
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Im full of shit because i believe some of the commonly accepted things taught in school?
like evolution??
or that the earth revolves around the sun and is not flat??
you guys always remind me of flat earthers....because your always refuting the latest science on "religious grounds"
some of you are really deficiant in the history dept.....ricardo think the tories of the late 18 the century were liberals.
the first paragraph in any mainstream explaination of them calls them "conservative"
as opposed to liberal.
since then, the crown colony has been anything but a bastion of liberalism throught he years(NH, for instance, was one of the last two states to accept MLK's B day, as a federal holiday)
but they voted for Obama this time, so they must be waking up.
unlike you.
I say that because you claim that we are wrong, period. I have lived in the South and the north, and from what i have heard over the years, Both sides of the story, that is what it boils down to, and you call us "Lost Cause believers" as if that summarizes us. I examine issues with open eyes and mind, and that is the best explanation of the War that there is. don't forget that history is written by the victors, but rarely encompasses the entire truth. As someone said, it's always the OTHER side that is wrong...
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185020 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
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Id say the 47% video had a bit more of an effect on the outcome of the election. mitt was almost tied with Obama before that.....
then he plummeted 10 pts in 10 days...
if you guys didnt get that amercia rejected your ideas??
then double down on stoopid, and ill hand ya the next shovel...
hint: minorities vote on policy just like white people do.
so trying to restrict their voting, might not be seen as the nicest thing you could be doing to court their votes.
America made no decisions, sir, the Electoral College did.
Mormon killers

La Puente, CA

#185021 Mar 27, 2013

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Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185022 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
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I dont know anything about the Bush family financing the third reich?? that seems a bit far fethched and something id hear from within your party, as part of a civil war, in your party.
those were NOt very nice words sarah had for karl at cpac.
now sHE is kinda a nazi.... the new new rethugs.
the Bush family is heavily involved with the saudi royal family because they are both more or less in the same business, energy.
JEb doesnt stand a snowballs chance in the primaries...
or didnt you watch in 12'??
the orthodoxy of your party made the primary season like a clip art web site, for democratic party, general election attack ads on the rethugs.
some of the wacky things that were said!!!! my goodness.
tacking back to the center(to win) from THAT loonacy, would be hard for anyone, even with all the corporate cash in the world.
mitt tried, ill give him that.
but during the primaries, as i recall it was "ANYBODY BUT MITT"
as four candidates from the far reich, made separate runs at the mad Mitt for front runner status....
...including religious zealot rick santorum!! I was impressed and entertained all at once...
santorum came out against college education, condoms and JFK, all in ONE week!
I swear, no one will beat hilly bags if she want the job....
all the political wind in the world is behind her run....
and that includes bush family baggage and how loony your party has become since the last bush left office.
ps; two wars, crashed economy, bad rethuglican, no whitehouse.
OK, try it. Google "Bush Crime Family" What can it hurt to try it? I'm not going to talk any more trash, just try it, ok? Tell me what you think? What can it hurt? I have no party affiliation. Call me "Independent" Not a TEA party guy, not a Dem, nor a Repub.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185023 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs

Anderson, CA

#185024 Mar 27, 2013
Rock!!

you are so liberal all of a sudden..

respecively.

you are half right about the civil war, lincoln only used freeing the slaves in 1863... a s away of mustering support for the war.

BUT we were all brought up on "united we stand"

so a separate slave state didnt make that much sense....especially with the worldwide challenges of the 20th century.

you are right about fundamentalists, they travel under all flags and religions..

and background checks as well...

I think responsible gun owners would like to buy a gun that ONLY they can use(palm print recognition)

that is my favorite idea....

and if background check save 2o kids from being shot up with an AR15, then i think I can get behind inconveiencing all these freaks who are buying their 19th gun for afew hours or minutes that it takes to run a check on his or her record...

we dont want felons(who demostrated they can not handle firearms responsibly) to have eASY access to them.

Im with you, it wont save many lives, but a starting with a handful of lives saved, would be helpful.

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