Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,167

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184964 Mar 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
Has anyone heard from Kimare this afternoon? Was he called before the Supreme Court to offer his "brilliant" comments about male anal sex, cross-cultural constraint crapola and his deep understanding of "epigentics mistake"?
Gosh, having read the arguments presented and questions asked by the justices and I don't believe any of these notions were raised by either side.
LOSER!!!
Weren't you?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184965 Mar 27, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>...and that is the ONLY accepted legal definition, is it? How very odd..... Gay couples cannot consummate their marriages, yet they get married every day.... strange.
Someone is out of touch with reality.
Yes. And, clearly, that someone is you.
hemp for telelgraphs

Anderson, CA

#184966 Mar 27, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
And no-one ever points out how much money the Negroes made, selling their brethren into slavery. It's all about "hate the white man", all that that is. Remember the cry "Pharaoh, let my people go?"? The ancient Egyptians were a black race. Owning the lighter skinned Jews.$$, wherever you look.
who would ever take serious you or your party??

you guys think sharia law is invading the us, and hillary clintons aide is with the muslim brotherhood.

not to mention still being lost in birther land.

is obama a kenyan commo-facist?? or a islamo facsist...

could he be both??....ill bet he could, on the glen beck show.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184967 Mar 27, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
For economic warfare, not due to bleeding hearts, as you implied.
Yes even the economic part also was directly related to slavery.

I don’t know if you are implying that there was not an abolitionist movement and that Lincoln was not directly connected to that movement before taking office, if you don’t realize that you need to do some more reading in history

His involvement and election was directly involved in the first states succeeding as they know they would not be able to maintain an equal number of slave state with Lincoln as president
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184968 Mar 27, 2013
William P wrote:
Please investigate the city of Glendora, CA the same way the city of Bell, CA was investigated.
This city is in serious jeopardy ever since a certain element took over and declared themselves KING,
I created a petition to Governor Jerry Brown and President Barack Obama which says:
"Please sign my petition to President Obama and Governor Jerry Brown asking them to order a thorough investigation of the city of Glendora, California the same way the city of Bell, California was investigated."
Will you sign this petition? Click here:
http://signon.org/sign/please-investigate-the ...
I would have, but it said this: "
Petition Not Available

This petition has been taken down.

Go to SignOn.org Home"
I'd sign any petition that comes from the people, asking for the government to look into grievances raised by it's citizens. but we both know that that will not happen.
Fair Game

La Puente, CA

#184969 Mar 27, 2013
As reported some time ago, all efforts by the insiders deep in Glendora, California - city hall have backfired.

They have promoted people from the inside and out side city hall even hired through false pretenses and even she is failing, the single reason she was hired, she failed at that too! So they promoted her, what a waste.

The long and tall of it is that Chris Jeffers and Jeff Kugel are running Glendora, lets not leave out the cronies like Douglas Tessitor, Terry Kent, Gene Murabito, Judy Nelson, Gary Clifford, Joseph Santoro, D. Wayne Leech and Karen Davis.

They are running businesses out of Glendora at record pace.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184970 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
<quoted text>
there is really no use in talking history with someone who didnt read it from the same taxt books as you and I did.
think of it as a texas school board of education, style curiculum....
ricardo is a bit weak on history and science(esp)
texas tea.
You're as much full of shit as D is.
Fair Game

La Puente, CA

#184971 Mar 27, 2013
Says a simple mantra: “It’s better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission.”
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184973 Mar 27, 2013
Sparkle wrote:
<quoted text>Stfu bigot
What's the matter, don't like the truth, razzle-dazzle?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#184974 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
<quoted text>
If the rethugs were silly enough to give bush the nomination??
he will get steamed rolled BY WHO EVER.
So the Democraps will nominate....?
but HIllary, on the other hand, will steamroll ANYONE who runs agianst her.
Hillarity will steamroll anyone....oh sure
im hoping you guys make good on your threat to nominate a "TRUE"
conservative, like santorum, palin or bachmann...
so you can see what it was like to be barry goldwater..
you thought 2012 was close?
mitt lost by 3 million votes...
because his campaign effort, s&&cked.
and your party's values stink badly.
Nah.....ya might say the wind blew in at just the right time to put Obama back in.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#184975 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
<quoted text>
how is that??
im not gay, but im a crusader against ALL bigotry.
Even bigotry from the left? Are you a caped crusader?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184976 Mar 27, 2013
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Not far from true.
Lincoln quotes you never saw in the history books:
""I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."
"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause."
"Do the people of the south really entertain fears that a Republican administration would, directly or indirectly, interfere with their slaves, or with them, about their slaves? If they do, I wish to assure you, as once a friend, and still, I hope, not an enemy, there is no cause for such fears."- Letter to Alexander Stephens
Other little Lincoln tid-bits you didn't hear about in school:
- July 1861- General Freeman declares martial law in Missouri, declares all slaves held by owners whom oppose the Union are free. Lincoln cancels the order. As a result Congress passes the Confiscation Act.
-May 1862, General David Hunter issued an order declaring all slaves in Georgia, Florida and South Carolina to be free. Lincoln again revokes the order. Congress again responds by passing the SECOND Confiscation Act.
They also won't tell you that Lincoln felt that the freed slaves should be COLONIZED elsewhere. Yup, he was looking to send the black out of the US. Congress even passed a bill to spend $100,000 to :
"to be expended under the direction of the President of the United States, to aid in the colonization and settlement of such free persons of African descent now residing in said District, including those to be liberated by this act, as may desire to emigrate to the Republic of Haiti or Liberia, or such other country beyond the limits of the United States as the President may determine."
Yeah, Lincoln the "great emancipator".
Excellent work, sir, I am humbled. I only gave a generalized account of the War, You provided hard facts. Salute.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184977 Mar 27, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
So the Democraps will nominate....?
<quoted text>
Hillarity will steamroll anyone....oh sure
<quoted text>
Nah.....ya might say the wind blew in at just the right time to put Obama back in.
as the landscape looks right now, yeah steamroll anyone

Obama's second term was the change to defeat a democrat, but Romney had to dance to the right to get the nomination and so lost the general.

A lot can change between now and then, but the snapshot now… Hillary would win in a walk
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184978 Mar 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
The definitions that I've seen say nothing about man and woman. They have simply said "spouses".
That's because, in the Age Of Reason, when reason prevailed, "spouses" was understood to mean man and woman. Anything else?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184979 Mar 27, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
the supreme court does, and did, I am glad they agreed with me
No, you agreed with them, they did not consult with you first. Therefore, they did not agree with you. They're not even aware of you.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184980 Mar 27, 2013
hemp for telelgraphs wrote:
<quoted text>
as far as i an see??
you are just a bigot...
Then, buy some glasses, the Constitution allows for us to have differing opinions, else it would have mandated that those of us do not toe the party line be branded as "bigots". Funny, last time I read the old Document, it didn't order us to agree. Dumb-ass. You're the bigot, looking down your nose at someone for disagreeing with you. You're the bigot.
what freaks

AOL

#184981 Mar 27, 2013
if the supreme court had any balls ,....
they would say OK to gay marriage ,..but at the same time declare it unconstitutional for the government to give benefits to spouses of state and federal employees ,...

the nation is broke ,...
we can not afford this madness any more -
the private sector no longer can afford to dish out lavish benefits to its employees,... the U.S. government should be forced to stop also ,..

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#184982 Mar 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
1.) First off you try to equate the terms "sexual intercourse" and "coitus". They are not the same words.
"Sexual intercourse" takes place between two people of any gender. Do you deny that same-gender couples have sexual intercourse? I don't think you do.
"Coitus" very specifically refers to the "sexual union between a male and a female involving insertion of the penis into the vagina." (from the on line dictionary "Farflex" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/coitus ).
You may think I'm splitting hairs. But it's important for you to understand that there is a very distinct difference.
2.) Marriage licenses in states that recognize same-gender marriage have removed gender and replaced it with "person" or "applicant".
3.) You don't have to explain all of the various sexual acts. We're all adults.
4.) I'm in no way trying to be disrespectful. I just wanted to paint the picture of the police busting down a couple's door and forcing them into divorce court, because word had gotten out that they had never consummated their marriage.
"Sexual intercourse, also known as copulation or coitus, is the insertion and thrusting of a male's penis into a female's vagina for the purposes of sexual pleasure or reproduction."

Any other sexual act is DADT.

Smile.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184983 Mar 27, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
Say.... you like definitions. What's the definition of bigot? someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred, contempt, and intolerance on the basis of a person's race, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, religion, language, socioeconomic status, or other status.
If the shoe fits...
But, you twist again. We are not treating anyone with "hatred, contempt, and intolerance", we are merely drawing a line in the sand and declaring that SSC's do not fit the accepted roles needed for a true marriage.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184984 Mar 27, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
tehn you might explain that to the attornies arguing the cases before the judges then. it was referenced even in SCOTUS yesterday.
They can read. They are as eager as you to pound a square peg into a round hole.

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