Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,794

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184936 Mar 27, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually Rome fell not long after becoming a Christian empire.
You have to go to actual school, not sunday school to learn about history.
Rome was in decline long before becoming a Christian Empire. You, also, appear to need history lessons, old fella...
:-D
Ravianna

Lincoln City, OR

#184937 Mar 27, 2013
This whole debate over 'gay' marriage is a symptom of a much larger problem: people losing what marriage is. Marriage isn't about some piece of paper or some benefit from the government. If gays could really be married they would not care if the government recognized their 'marriage' or not.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184938 Mar 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
The Roman Empire fell for numerous reasons. It's a myth to say that it fell due to an acceptance of homosexuality.
Most historians believe that the Empire fell primarily because it became so large that it could not defend itself, from a monetary standpoint and a lack of manpower.
Regarding "diseases", you have to understand that these illnesses do not care about the orientation of the person when it transmits itself from one person to another. They are opportunistic infections that simply find the easiest way to stay alive and grow.
And if you want to talk about a "deadly disease", let's talk about how you straight people abort 40,000,000 babies each year. In a little over seven and a half years, that's about the number of people who live in the U.S.
You guys cause much more death on the planet than gay men.
And lesbians are less likely than even heterosexuals to develop HIV.
So, your comments about disease and the gay community is just false.
Even the lead, used in their water pipes, contributed. Lead poisoning, subsequent dementia. Allowed them to exhibit all sorts of nasty symptoms, including homsexuality, which they also didn't understand. They did all sorts of wrong things.
hemp for telelgraphs

Anderson, CA

#184939 Mar 27, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't be so stupid! We HAVE legal immigration. We just made provisions for those that didn't want to do it the legal way. We made room for the pushy ones. We moved over for the criminals. We gave them "Operation Amnesty" to accommodate the ones who have no respect for the opinions of "Real Americans". Don't be so stupid! We have legal immigration. We also have The Border Patrol, who are no longer allowed to deport the criminals. Thanks to Obammy.
all the while, border jumping, has fallen WAY off.

yet, we need people to do jobs american wont, like pick fruit in the 110 degree california sun.

I support immigration reform.

including, expanding the guest worker program.
hemp for telelgraphs

Anderson, CA

#184940 Mar 27, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
No, D, you are wrong (again). The Electoral College had already picked our president for us, all that was hoopla, nothing more. Don't you people get this yet? Watch for Jeb in the White House.
If the rethugs were silly enough to give bush the nomination??

he will get steamed rolled BY WHO EVER.

but HIllary, on the other hand, will steamroll ANYONE who runs agianst her.

im hoping you guys make good on your threat to nominate a "TRUE"
conservative, like santorum, palin or bachmann...

so you can see what it was like to be barry goldwater..

you thought 2012 was close?

mitt lost by 3 million votes...

because his campaign effort, s&&cked.

and your party's values stink badly.
hemp for telelgraphs

Anderson, CA

#184941 Mar 27, 2013
Prop hate will likey stand, as the conservatives on the court dont want to hear it...

if they vote, it will end up 6-3.

the libs on the court, arnt states rights arbitrators by nature.

so they will agree with conservattives if they dont want to deal with prop hate.

prop hate is done either way.

if the gay marraige ban is put back on the ballot, it will fail.
hemp for telelgraphs

Anderson, CA

#184942 Mar 27, 2013
I meant the lower courts decision will stand
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184944 Mar 27, 2013
endocannabanoid system wrote:
<quoted text>
100 years from now they will look at YOU like we look at the southern slave master, who didnt want to change and step into a new reality....sound familiar??...
we look back in SHAME at the bigots who were against interracial marraige, just 50 years ago....
things change quickly.
in 1996, only 23 % of the people supported GAy and lESBIAN marriage.
now that number is around 60%
social progress is social progress.....
100 years ago women could not vote....
ill bet if we gave you fools the chance, youd repeal that too.
in other words, you all profess to be great constitutionalists..
but if we left you alone with that document.....
we wouldnt recognize the document we got back from you.
1) Speak for yourself, don't be so presumptious, as to speak for all of us.
2) That 60% number is a flat-out lie.
3) We already don't recognize the document that you are attempting to re-interpret, in your favor, of course. That's the document that states that the States decide marriage law, not the Fed.
Shit, son, by the time you get done fiddling with it, we'll all be gay, if you get your way. We already know what you want.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184945 Mar 27, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Drinking your hater aid with your bong hit this morning?
He is claiming to be a great psychologist, and a psychiatrist to boot, now. He knows more than Freud or Jung, now.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184946 Mar 27, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
Sweet Baby Jesus, the haterosexuals are spinning out of control today.
Reality IS a bitch, eh Kuntmary?
Speaking of K*nts, here's one, spewing more insults, to substitute for an argument...
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184947 Mar 27, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
...and your qualifications are.....?
And your qualifications for asking him "and your qualifications are" are?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184948 Mar 27, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I never hear of anyone that spits hate at those that were against the civil rights of Blacks. People are smart enough to realize that times change, most slave owners were not the evil beaters that hollywood makes them out to be. Most people realize religion never saved anyone, it's your relationship with God.
And no-one ever points out how much money the Negroes made, selling their brethren into slavery. It's all about "hate the white man", all that that is. Remember the cry "Pharaoh, let my people go?"? The ancient Egyptians were a black race. Owning the lighter skinned Jews.$$, wherever you look.
MadeMafia

La Puente, CA

#184949 Mar 27, 2013
Those idiots running Glendora, California city hall and local government don't know a hill of beans of how to run an honest "open government" lies and cover up's are the norm.

Just like a Mafia Organization on the west coast.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184950 Mar 27, 2013
endocannabanoid system wrote:
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right!!! in 1860,
the slave owners were like "yeah well give up those slaves"
the south tried to secede because they wanted to remain a slave using republic.
we fought a HUGE CIVIL war over slavery....
i guess they didnt teach that at your school.
OMG, you really are stupid. Don't you know that we didn't fight that war to free the slaves? Ever wonder why it was called "The War Of Northern Aggression"? It was because the South was making so much $$ from the trade it had, with other countries, that the North ordered it to sell them raw, unfinished goods and products, at a drastic loss, and then buy back finished goods and products, at rapish profits, that the South said "no". It was then that the North moved on the South, with blockades of all ports that the South used for exportation. THAT was what the Civil War was all about. Lincoln owned slaves. Lincoln said that if he could save the union, without freeing one slave, he would do so. The abolishment of slavery was a strike at the workforce that the South used, to make its profits. You dumb-ass. Don't post when you don't know what you are talking about. Damn.... You're welcome for the history lesson.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184951 Mar 27, 2013
endocannabanoid system wrote:
along those same lines as the redding tea party situation??
a 2nd amendment rights meeting in hayfork ca.
was restricted only to people who would sign a
"2nd amendment rights protection promise"
(they had little arm bands too, just kidding, but they might as well have)
and local reporters were told to go f%%K off.
they appartently are ashamed of their message...
anyone who wanted to broadly enter pro 2nd amendment activism, would try to publicize their cause??
wouldnt they??
their official manifesto sounds very much like Bush's "you either with us or you are against us"
So, you also disagree with those of us that own guns, eh? Giving up all that made us strong. Traitor. You can go and be an uneducated sheep, but not me.
hemp for telelgraphs

Anderson, CA

#184952 Mar 27, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
1) Speak for yourself, don't be so presumptious, as to speak for all of us.
2) That 60% number is a flat-out lie.
3) We already don't recognize the document that you are attempting to re-interpret, in your favor, of course. That's the document that states that the States decide marriage law, not the Fed.
Shit, son, by the time you get done fiddling with it, we'll all be gay, if you get your way. We already know what you want.
how is that??

im not gay, but im a crusader against ALL bigotry.

there is your answer.

the poll from ABC news was at 58% favorablity for gay marraige.

what polls do YOU have to show us ??

the arguements the right are offereing, are being picked apart this week by the scotus justices, just like they were picked apart in the lower courts...

youve been making them as well i see.

so let me see if i get this straight??

you are pro-federal law/ when it suits your cause?/

AND you are pro- states rights also, when it serves your cause?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184953 Mar 27, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I don't belong to any organization that has hatred for gay people. I am not Mormon. I have never seen a history book list names of people that were not for the civil rights of blacks other then a few groups like the kkk. I really could care less on the gay marriage issue, it won't affect me. You liberals seem to have fun saying that line of crap about being on the wrong side of history. LOL.
It makes them feel better, it contributes to the air of superiority that they have assumed, as our moral compasses.
Slipping

La Puente, CA

#184954 Mar 27, 2013
The RNC GOP Republican and Tea Party Screwed the American public so much that the CDC has announced that there are now: 110,197,000 VENEREAL INFECTIONS IN USA.

61% of voting Americans are sick and tired of the John Boehner and other grand standing blow hards.

Looks like the SS RNC GOP Republican and Tea Party is going down and under the waves.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184955 Mar 27, 2013
Big D wrote:
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A “Lost Cause” supporter LOL
I didn’t know there were any left alive
The "Lost Cause" was an effort by the south to re-write history, and what the war was actually about, and to vilify and make heroic certain figures.
If you actually knew anything... anything at all about American history, you would know that every cause of the war was linked to slavery.
Economically, politically, in every sense and every cause, slavery was at the bottom of it.
They withdrew from the union because of the fact that with Lincoln as president they would not be able to maintain an equal number of slave states to non-slave states, which would eventually be the end of slavery, so they succeeded from the union
Here you go, this is elementary schools stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_A...
I hate to do this, but I am saying it plainly. You are full of shit, there. That war was about economics, not humanitarianism. Slavery was a common practice. Lincoln's letter to Greely was a lie, eh? You were there and know that he didn't write it, yes? Liar. I had a lot of respect for you, but you just lost some of it, not that it matters. And, the word is "seceded". Not "succeeded".
hemp for telelgraphs

Anderson, CA

#184956 Mar 27, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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So, you also disagree with those of us that own guns, eh? Giving up all that made us strong. Traitor. You can go and be an uneducated sheep, but not me.
actaully,im pro 2nd amendment rights.

Im for your right to OWN YOUR PEICE..

that post was more about the fact that you had to sign a loyaty plegde JUST to hear what they were pitching.

when you are an activist??

you try to get your message out.

unless you are somehow ashamed of the message you are lecturing on...other wise, you are just going to be preaching to the choir.

background checks make sense, so does an assault rifle ban.

as well as limiting clip size (lets face it, you can have as much ammo as you can carry)

90% of the country supports background checks...

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