Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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The Roman Empire fell for numerous reasons. It's a myth to say that it fell due to an acceptance of homosexuality.
Most historians believe that the Empire fell primarily because it became so large that it could not defend itself, from a monetary standpoint and a lack of manpower.
Regarding "diseases", you have to understand that these illnesses do not care about the orientation of the person when it transmits itself from one person to another. They are opportunistic infections that simply find the easiest way to stay alive and grow.
And if you want to talk about a "deadly disease", let's talk about how you straight people abort 40,000,000 babies each year. In a little over seven and a half years, that's about the number of people who live in the U.S.
You guys cause much more death on the planet than gay men.
And lesbians are less likely than even heterosexuals to develop HIV.
So, your comments about disease and the gay community is just false.
The problem is they are learning about history in Sunday school

Rome was a Christian empire when it fell, had been for 150 years. are they saying that Christians used to accept homosexuality and then changed their minds?

They donít like to remember the Rome fell as a Christian empire, so they just leave that part out.

Now I am not saying that their being a Christian empire is the why they fell, but it was another drop in the bucket.

The empire had sustained itself through conquest, and plunder of the surrounding kingdoms, once that conquest slowed, even stopped, it started collapsing on itself.

That and the fact that after Augustus, the line of rulers got pretty bad pretty fast.

The religious conflicts over time also added to it, Constantine finally gave up and converted to Christianity to quell the violent Christian riots. Before long Christianity was THE religion of Rome, there is a reason the head of the church was and is in Rome but they donít like to remember why.

Rome was a Christian empire as it fell, and they really donít like to be reminded of that.
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Grover Norquist is and always sounded like a "muslim brotherhood" member, since his wife are Muslim's.

Grover Norquist has called for the destruction of America, time for this nasty, filthy piece of trash to be arrested deported to a muslim country of his choice.

He of course is the darling and leader of the Tea Party aka; muslim brotherhood (USA branch).. Beware of him and his tea party members.
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Sorry the truth hurts. And yet another failed attemp to lie and read things to your own selfish needs to try and make others believe your lies.
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It is interesting to think, that a hundred years from today, and beyond, they will be talking about today.

This is a landmark day in American history

As will the day in June when the decision is released.
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Rome was a Roman Catholic empire and not hardly what most would consider a Christian as the church was as greedy as the government. Sounds kinda familiar huh. The truth hurts but the truth is the truth.
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Big D wrote:
It is interesting to think, that a hundred years from today, and beyond, they will be talking about today.
This is a landmark day in American history
As will the day in June when the decision is released.
Not let's Korea will be teaching us all about it. If not them another country. You all are sorry in the eyes of all men women and children. You are the valley of death and that can't not see will be damned with you.
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"Muhammad" Grover Norquist is and always sounded like a "muslim brotherhood" member, since his wife are Muslim's.

Grover Norquist has called for the destruction of America, time for this nasty, filthy piece of trash to be arrested deported to a muslim country of his choice.

He of course is the darling and leader of the Tea Party aka; muslim brotherhood (USA branch).. Beware of him and his tea party members.

Must be on some kind of religious war rant or something.
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Rome was a Roman Catholic empire and not hardly what most would consider a Christian as the church was as greedy as the government. Sounds kinda familiar huh. The truth hurts but the truth is the truth.
ROFLMAO... now you are saying that the majority of Christians in history... weíre not Christians, that the original Christians from Christ all the way to the reformation were not Christians

That THE Church that the Apostle Paul founded, was not Christian

Do you know anything of history at all?

This is hilarious

Rome was beset by competing religions, the Christians were violent, they burned the library at Alexandria setting human knowledge back a thousand years. The only way out was for the emperor Constantine to convert, that calmed things down, and the roman empire became a Christian empire, 150 before it fell, it was Christian.

Your ignorance of the fact, does not change the fact.
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Well today is the big day, finally. I have faith that SCOTUS will do the right thing. It would be interesting to get SCOTUS' reaction to some of the hateful, putrid posts written by Prop 8 supporters.
Same here, although you realize we will not hear any kind of decision until likely June

This is a day that will go down in American history, they will be talking about this day for a hundred years or more.

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Ronald wrote:
Lately, the Government licensed "news" has been promoting - in unison - the notion that, now, "everyone" supports the idea that two persons of the same SEX should have the "right" to "marry" each other. It must be true. After all, we can always believe the Government propaganda mill. Yeah. Right.
exactly ronald! And since voting didn't work for them. It's like the Government licensed scientists that tell us we all need a flu shot, even babies and pregnant women.

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Same here, although you realize we will not hear any kind of decision until likely June
This is a day that will go down in American history, they will be talking about this day for a hundred years or more.
i think most of us will move on and not talk about it in a 100 years from now. By that time marriage won't mean anything any more.
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Oh please, Kim... You are on about 10 (or more) of these gay themed forums. You've posted hundreds (thousands?) of comments over the past 3 years.
And you've most recently taken to outright LYING about epigenetics. You claim that science has reached the conclusion that an epigenetic marker "mistake" has been located. You say that there is no doubt. And you KNOW this is not true.
When you come on here and LIE, you continue to lose credibility.
Those who might support you do not like to be associated with a liar.
speaking of head cases...

check out "ronald"

I could write a thesis about all their mental disorders, and earn a nobel prize off the work...

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ROFLMAO... now you are saying that the majority of Christians in history... weíre not Christians, that the original Christians from Christ all the way to the reformation were not Christians
That THE Church that the Apostle Paul founded, was not Christian
Do you know anything of history at all?
This is hilarious
Rome was beset by competing religions, the Christians were violent, they burned the library at Alexandria setting human knowledge back a thousand years. The only way out was for the emperor Constantine to convert, that calmed things down, and the roman empire became a Christian empire, 150 before it fell, it was Christian.
Your ignorance of the fact, does not change the fact.
are you saying Paul was NOT the founder of Christianity? hey bigot, blaming the Christians for burning the library was one of the theories written by Gibbon's, over a thousand years after the fact, but there was no certainty and others that were blamed as well. It's not a fact. Julius Caesar might be responsible. What other reason, most likely it was not intentional.
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<quoted text>i think most of us will move on and not talk about it in a 100 years from now. By that time marriage won't mean anything any more.
100 years from now they will look at YOU like we look at the southern slave master, who didnt want to change and step into a new reality....sound familiar??...

we look back in SHAME at the bigots who were against interracial marraige, just 50 years ago....

things change quickly.

in 1996, only 23 % of the people supported GAy and lESBIAN marriage.
now that number is around 60%

social progress is social progress.....

100 years ago women could not vote....

ill bet if we gave you fools the chance, youd repeal that too.

in other words, you all profess to be great constitutionalists..

but if we left you alone with that document.....

we wouldnt recognize the document we got back from you.

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speaking of head cases...
check out "ronald"
I could write a thesis about all their mental disorders, and earn a nobel prize off the work...
Drinking your hater aid with your bong hit this morning?
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<quoted text>i think most of us will move on and not talk about it in a 100 years from now. By that time marriage won't mean anything any more.
Oh no, other landmark decisions are talked about today

The Dred Scott decision
Emancipation
Prohibition
The overturn of Prohibition
Womenís vote
Roe V Wade

Etc etc etc

and dozens of more obscure changes that affect the nation for long term, this is one of them. No question this will be a landmark decision.

Obmamcare was a trifle, and will be forgotten as obvious long before this one is.

You may not be talking about it, but it will be in the forefront of law, studied in every school of law of a hundred years and likely more.

“Busting Kimare's”

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Sweet Baby Jesus, the haterosexuals are spinning out of control today.

Reality IS a bitch, eh Kuntmary?
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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>are you saying Paul was NOT the founder of Christianity? hey bigot, blaming the Christians for burning the library was one of the theories written by Gibbon's, over a thousand years after the fact, but there was no certainty and others that were blamed as well. It's not a fact. Julius Caesar might be responsible. What other reason, most likely it was not intentional.
NO I was responding to someone that said that Rome was not a Christian empire when it fell

Of course Paul founded a Christian church, I know that, you need to tell your fellow followers that.

Julius ruled ( in a sense ) over an expanding republic before its heyday, that continued to expand as an empire under Augustus after his death, the fall didnít start for a long time later.

The reasons were numerous, and debatable, but saying that Rome fell because of the acceptance of homosexuality is hilarious, he is saying that a Christian empire accepted homosexuality.

No one of any education will buy that, you only learn that kind of propaganda in Sunday school.
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The Supreme Court has reversed its decision on at least 10 occasions over the years. In the 1830's the Supreme Court upheld a lower court's decision to ban interracial marriage. Then in 1967 it overturned that decision.
It is obvious these folks are not too comfortable here in the 21st century.

brain choose to look at that decision from the early 19th century, because the 1830 represents a utopia past for him....

and definately not that hippy love fest year they struck that arcane decision down!!(1967)
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Sweet Baby Jesus, the haterosexuals are spinning out of control today.
Reality IS a bitch, eh Kuntmary?
inner lesbian??

isnt KI a crusty old man??

they all are...

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