Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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girl, you're on tear today. you must be sh1tting a brick about the Supreme Court hearings.
all this from a disgraced UCC pastor.
Only home runs.

I agree, the UCC is disgraced.

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http://familyfirst.org.nz/2013/03/former-dutc...

Former Dutch MP Admits Polygamy, Group Marriage Next

Posted by Bob on Friday, March 15, 2013

Media Release 15 March 2013
A former Dutch MP who was behind the first same-sex marriage legislation in the world, and brought to NZ by supporters of the same-sex marriage bill to make a submission to the Select Committee, has admitted that group marriages of three or more people is the next step.

In a video interview with a French online gay magazine, Boris Dittrich, a former Dutch MP and gay activist now working for Human Rights Watch, said the redefinition of marriage has led to discussions of allowing group marriages of three or more persons.“But that’s the beginning of something completely new.” He acknowledged that this next step “will take a lot of years.” Netherlands was the first country in the world to allow same-sex marriage, in 2001.

He said that in the countries where it has been created, legislators pushing for gay “marriage” started the process by promising that “civil partnerships” were as far as it would go, and that marriage would remain untouched – the exact same promises made in NZ in 2004.“We thought it might be psychologically better to first introduce registered partnerships,” and that once “people got used to the idea that two men or two women went to the municipality, had their relationship recognised by the law. And people called it a ‘gay marriage’…. So then the next step of marriage equality, and really being equal, was a logical step.”

He admitted the most effective wedge to bring the idea before the public was to “focus on the principles of equality and non-discrimination.”

“If the definition of marriage was extended to allow same-sex marriage, and only same-sex marriage, it could then be argued that we are discriminating against those seeking polygamous or group marriages – if all that matters is love and commitment. Why would discrimination against these loving adults be ok? They may be illegal now, but it wasn’t that long ago that same-sex marriage was illegal also, and we were told civil unions were sufficient and marriage wouldn’t be touched,” says Bob McCoskrie, National Director of Family First NZ.

Green activists in Australia have just established the Polyamory Action Lobby which is petitioning parliament to allow polygamous marriage. Two government studies released by Canada’s Justice Department in 2001 and 2006 recommended the decriminalisation of polygamy, with one arguing that the move was justified by the need to attract more skilled Muslim immigrants. The government has resisted the call, thus far.

In their 2006 statement “Beyond Same-Sex Marriage, A New Strategic Vision For All Our Families & Relationships,” more than 300 “LGBT and allied” scholars and advocates— including prominent Ivy League professors—called for legal recognition of sexual relationships involving more than two partners.

“NZ’ers need to know exactly where this same-sex marriage debate is heading,” says Mr McCoskrie.

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What part of this post confused you?

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Hmmmmmmm.......not quite. There's coital sexual intercourse, which is the act referenced regarding consummation of the marital relationship by husband and wife, and can result in conception. Anal intercourse is......well....just a pain in the arse. Remember if sex is a pain in the arse, you're doing it the wrong way.
Sorry VV, couldn't resist.:)
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Referenced where?
Is this a fedreal or state law?
Seriously Big D, you're unfamiliar with the word "consumate", as it relates to marriage? We both know that's not true.
I dont give a crap about any religon
Constipated huh? You should see a doctor about that. You seem very fixated on religion.
Which law mandates this for a marrage to be valid?
and dont talk about divorce, you can be divorced for no reason at all.
Did I state it was mandatory, or simply provide the definition?
I am asking where is the law that will automatically invalidate, against both parties wishes, a marrage that is not consumated in the way you are describing?
"In the way you are describing"? That's how a marriage is consumated, the first act of sexual intercourse, coitus, by husband and wife, you have children you must have consumated at one point.
I am pretty sure there isnt one, the government wont step in agains the wishes of a married couple and force them to devorce because they didnt have sex correctly ( according to you )
You're a trip Big D! Did I claim that? Noooooooo...but that doesn't stop you from claiming I did. It would be nice if you could put aside your secular pontificating for just a moment or two and have a conversation with out all of the "holier than thou"....no wait, I forgot, you're not a relgious person. Wellll...give it a shot.
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Still no specific survey? Wonder why. Not.
There are 120,000 imposter relationships that everyone knows the minute they see any ONE of them is distinct from marriage.
NO child will ever look at a ss couple and say, "mom and dad".
Smile.
Nope, only imposter americans that want to deny freedom in the land of the free
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Awwww..that's so clever, "reich winger", did you think of that all by yourself, or did the rest of the rainbow clubhouse help you out?
As the "....being granted their civil rights...", that ignores the fact that gays all ready have the same civil right as any other American, they simply don't like the way its exercised. A solution here would be to recognize different situations, different solutions.
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As is yours, plus yours is narrow in all the colors of the rainbow, sparkle.:)
Im sorry the symbolism of the rainbow is lost on you??

wernt you the one who was PRo-polygamy..??

kinda hypocritical for you to be anti-gay marraige?? huh??

Gays are facing a lot of bigotry still from legislators....

you make it sound as if everything is all settled...

what do you think these cases are about..??

defeating bigotry and discrimination...because it is real.

what planet do you live on..??

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endocannabanoid system wrote:
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I only stated that i have permission from the state to smoke that much...
that would BE alot to smoke....
so at least now we can establish that riccardo fire of northern california finally admits canabis is "MEDICAL"
what a huge sea change in your politics...
i can see just how liberal you are compared to all the other posters here...
like for instance, wed both be pissed if the jehovahs witnesses bothered us at home.
On the pot topic, you admitted to smoking that much, when did I ever say there was no medical use for pot? Pot should be legal for everyone. Hemp oil is healthier then smoking a bong. What does the JW's have to do with this? Your mind is everywhere, put away the bong for a minute.

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>...Marriage can never describe a ss couple...<
Nope, untrue. My WIFE and I are a very happily-MARRIED lesbian FAMILY. We will celebrate our fifth WEDDING ANNIVERSARY the end of June.
Deal with it, and grow UP. Mommy wants her pots and pans back, now.
At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

How does a duplicated half, mutually desolate of mating behavior equate to marriage, or a child missing at least one parent and always one gender make a natural family?

Father's day has to be a bitch (pun intended)!

You are only fooling yourselves at the expense of children.

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Answer the door naked, they dont come back, in fact they will make an effort to stay far away from your house.
but who wants to stand naked in front of 2 old men?

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you are the kind of bigoted old fool who i think of, when major inroads to civil liberties are being made.....because i know you ARE unhappy about them......smirk!
How old is he? How old are you? What are the ages of everyone here? Now, put that bong away!

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Nope, only imposter americans that want to deny freedom in the land of the free
Mr Denial with a capital D...

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a young cutie from the jehovah's JUST visited me not a hour ago!!
I wish(to god) i had read your comment before that!!
she was likely WAY OFF IN LOONY RIGHTWING DING VILLE
we have droves of those types in our purple county....
Most likely it was an undercover agent spying on you.

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there is nothing like winning when you didnt expect to...
that said, it feels good to win, when YOU KNOW you are right, and it is simply a matter of the court backing US up and telling the bigots to finally....SIT DOWN.!!!!!
I had that same feeling last fall, when Obama trounced thurston howell the third, and his car elevator!!
all the racist bigots were ready for a big racist hurrah!!
unfortunately for them?? they were watching faux news, and were badly mislead into thinking they would win.!!
when they were trounced firmly....
many of them act as theough the election never happed, and amercia DIDNT shoot their agenda down.
The funny part is you bought those lies...lol....He's promised to overhaul immigration law, to set a course in law against global warming, stop Iran from gaining the ability to make nuclear weapons, slash America's use of foreign oil, restrain college costs, and take a big bite out of the national debt even while protecting the heart of the big entitlement programs.

He's promised to make health insurance not only universally accessible, but "affordable," through a 2010 health care law that is finally entering prime time and will soon be tested.

Obama made a pact with voters, not historians, and he's got IOUs outstanding.

His lies on ObamaCare that you celebrated that have been broken:

1) If you like your current insurance you can keep it.
) If you like your doctor you can keep him or her.

3) The ten-year cost of Obama Care will be less than $1 trillion.

4) Obama Care will not add one dime to the deficit.

All four of these promises have been broken according to the administration’s own experts

He lied and it’s going to be more expensive with less coverage? Who saw that coming? If you voted for this idiot I hope you get what you deserve!!!!!
He lied and it’s going to be more expensive with less coverage? Who saw that coming? If you voted for this idiot I hope you get what you deserve!!!!!
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Soda Jerks are out again, shame on them.
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I'm sure they ran in a little hole over there in Glendora.

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Tomorrow is the big day in court. It's the beginning of the end of the gay marriage bans not just in California but Pennsylvania, Texas, Mississippi, Oregon, and all of the states that deny LGBT couples equal rights under the law. Time is up bigots. June 2013. Remember that date.
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<quoted text>The funny part is you bought those lies...lol....He's promised to overhaul immigration law, to set a course in law against global warming, stop Iran from gaining the ability to make nuclear weapons, slash America's use of foreign oil, restrain college costs, and take a big bite out of the national debt even while protecting the heart of the big entitlement programs.
He's promised to make health insurance not only universally accessible, but "affordable," through a 2010 health care law that is finally entering prime time and will soon be tested.
Obama made a pact with voters, not historians, and he's got IOUs outstanding.
His lies on ObamaCare that you celebrated that have been broken:
1) If you like your current insurance you can keep it.
) If you like your doctor you can keep him or her.
3) The ten-year cost of Obama Care will be less than $1 trillion.
4) Obama Care will not add one dime to the deficit.
All four of these promises have been broken according to the administration’s own experts
He lied and it’s going to be more expensive with less coverage? Who saw that coming? If you voted for this idiot I hope you get what you deserve!!!!!
He lied and it’s going to be more expensive with less coverage? Who saw that coming? If you voted for this idiot I hope you get what you deserve!!!!!
your hysteria is just silly now.

"to set a course agianst global warming"??

hint: that would be easier if you guys stopped denying that it exists in the first place...

and with the stock market now well over 14000??

the wealthy have little to whine about....

other than the fact that their MAN isnt in the whitehouse

meanwhile your party just keeps digging their own grave, by being against things like gay marraige, legal immigration, access to womens health care and voting equality....

you can just kepp digging as far as im concerned.
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How come when a sentor or congressman is in the washington place they is married yet they dont have kids every nine months as the bible demands? Well, either they is fruitin off in the can or doing something with rubber gloves that god dont want. Vote for Bachmann, she knows eveything and will go ahead and tell IF WE PUT HER IN THE WHITE HOUISE. God wants it and we cant go against god.

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Wat the hell wrote:
Tomorrow is the big day in court. It's the beginning of the end of the gay marriage bans not just in California but Pennsylvania, Texas, Mississippi, Oregon, and all of the states that deny LGBT couples equal rights under the law. Time is up bigots. June 2013. Remember that date.
Arrogance with the deeeeep argument that the opposition is only bigotry.

Just another reason ss couples are not marriage.

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<quoted text>LMAO.. Me thinks it is YOU that "dost protest too much"! Just like a lady!
That was the lesbian in me.

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for now... if DOMA falls, any challenge to the states that ban them will be easily overturned on constitutional grounds
You are on the wrong side of right and wrong, and certainly on the wrong side of history
You are so confused.

DOMA has already failed in court, and the basis for that decision was the the RIGHT to REGULATE and DEFINE marriage rested with the STATE!!! The SCOTUS upholding that decision would AFFIRM that the STATES have the power to REGULATE and DEFINE marriage. It would do NOTHING to help your argument.

You really should stop pretending that you understand the legal system.

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