Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183077 Mar 10, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup. I tend to prefer travel at night due to the absence of motorists and the fact that most truckers know WTF lane discipline is. Among other things.
Thank you, sir, a lot of us are in the top echelon of driving ability, and many try their hardest to be the best that there is. To be fair, many are sloppy, too. Broke my bike out today, BTW.
:D
Got a 1981 CX500 Custom. Nothing fancy. Bit of a collectors item, but not in a grand way.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183078 Mar 10, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
Paul Revere et al knew what was going on but not the exact plan hence the set up of warnings.
Poland didn't have radar when the Germans invaded.
We've got satellite imaging among other methods of keeping an eye on things. For the military it is real time, not the google earth stuff you and I are limited to.
Yeah, I'm just saying that I'd rather have a false warning, than none where warning might have made the difference. And I wish that I had access to the imaging I used to have....
:-D
They may not be there in the numbers I had read about, but they are there. And the loss of Posse Comitatus is a grievous one. Add to that, the gunships flying around, lighting off blanks, and the FEMA camps, it doesn't look too good right now.. Did you watch the video of Rep John Haller, saying "Jesus"? He knew what he was reading...
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183079 Mar 10, 2013
Marram wrote:
<quoted text>
Believe it or not, on this we both agree.
I can believe it. To step out of our "Springer Show" roles for a moment, I don't have anything against you. I just enjoy the playground aspect of this room.
:-D

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#183080 Mar 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
In other words, you were called out and you can't.
Smile.
Yeah that's it in an apple shell, you silly little freak.

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#183081 Mar 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
I can believe it. To step out of our "Springer Show" roles for a moment, I don't have anything against you. I just enjoy the playground aspect of this room.
:-D
Ditto

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#183082 Mar 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, sir, a lot of us are in the top echelon of driving ability, and many try their hardest to be the best that there is. To be fair, many are sloppy, too. Broke my bike out today, BTW.
:D
Got a 1981 CX500 Custom. Nothing fancy. Bit of a collectors item, but not in a grand way.
I'm a fan of older bikes. I don't care what brand either. I've got a Yamaha R5 (1971 two stroke street bike) and an RD400 Daytona (last year for the air cooled twins). I hope to resurrect one of these years. I made a commitment to myself to get those going last - gotta sell two other old yammie two strokes (RD350 and RD400) and fix or sell three others (RD250 x2 and another RD350).
In addition to the CB750 in my sig pic I've got another of the same year awaiting resto and a sidecar, an 76 BMW R75/6 with sidecar in the process of an engine rebuild, an 89 Honda GB500 with electrical gremlins (driving me nuts as it was running when I parked it and a couple weeks later deader than 4 a.m.) and a 98 Valkyrie that I use touring. Better than a drug addiction and much cheaper than getting into muscle cars. Gotta admit to a having a sweet spot for a '55 Chevy though.

I've been looking longingly at my bikes but don't feel up to riding yet. I've got some shoulder damage (both arms) from totalling an F350 in January. I did get a bit of a work out yesterday taking out two trees, one fallen (25 foot pine) in the high winds we had last week and the other one dead but still standing (about a 35 foot pine). Shoulders weren't too painful, but I'm glad I have a tractor to drag & lift them.
Some Never Came Home

Tempe, AZ

#183083 Mar 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
I can believe it. To step out of our "Springer Show" roles for a moment, I don't have anything against you. I just enjoy the playground aspect of this room.
:-D
So sorry bigot boy,but some of us take equality seriously and not as a joke or playground for you to enjoy yourself! Says a lot about your personality and heart! Now lets vote away a couple of your rights and see how you feel then! Different story then right?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#183084 Mar 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, I'm just saying that I'd rather have a false warning, than none where warning might have made the difference. And I wish that I had access to the imaging I used to have....
:-D
They may not be there in the numbers I had read about, but they are there. And the loss of Posse Comitatus is a grievous one. Add to that, the gunships flying around, lighting off blanks, and the FEMA camps, it doesn't look too good right now.. Did you watch the video of Rep John Haller, saying "Jesus"? He knew what he was reading...
Didn't see the vid - I had trouble with your links the first go around and only looked at one of 'em. Which link was it (sorry for the bother)?
TalesOfCOG

Covina, CA

#183085 Mar 10, 2013
sgvCOG is a fraudulent enterprise.

It is where those who pay to play for government favors go to collect their prizes.

If California had a more Open Government things like sgvCOG wouldn't exist.

Glendora, California is

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#183086 Mar 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
I can believe it. To step out of our "Springer Show" roles for a moment, I don't have anything against you. I just enjoy the playground aspect of this room.
:-D
Yup, it gets funny in here at times. I think most of us would have a lot more in common apart from differing opinions on this particular topic.
TalesOfCOG

Covina, CA

#183087 Mar 10, 2013
sgvCOG is a fraudulent enterprise.

It is where those who pay to play for government favors go to collect their prizes.

If California had a more Open Government things like sgvCOG wouldn't exist.

Glendora, California is at least on the shinny surface just like svCOG was before the books were opened up and real criminal activty was found.

Those criminal enterprise controller's in Glendora, California do their best to keep the lid on all the insider trading and deal making.

Cities like Glendora have their own police department to control all aspects of investigations etc. that come close to exposing illegal activities and warn those parties of an investigation so a cover story can be cooked up and so goes the cover up.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183088 Mar 10, 2013
Some Never Came Home wrote:
<quoted text>
So sorry bigot boy,but some of us take equality seriously and not as a joke or playground for you to enjoy yourself! Says a lot about your personality and heart! Now lets vote away a couple of your rights and see how you feel then! Different story then right?
I see. Speaking my mind makes me a bigot. My Constitutional rights do not matter now, eh? No rights were removed from the gays, there were sodomy laws before Prop 8, but the laws have been getting changed to please the gays. You're mistakenly making a silly analogy. Equality is being taken seriously, but the natural and balanced and correct mating practices are being thrown away, to satisfy some small number of libertines that wish to get governmental benefits from the till. I take equality very seriously, but I do not accept changing the traditional views of marriage to provide benefits for any old pairing off of couples. Do you agree with allowing illegal immigrants to receive amnesty, BTW? Just checking on a hunch...
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183089 Mar 10, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm a fan of older bikes. I don't care what brand either. I've got a Yamaha R5 (1971 two stroke street bike) and an RD400 Daytona (last year for the air cooled twins). I hope to resurrect one of these years. I made a commitment to myself to get those going last - gotta sell two other old yammie two strokes (RD350 and RD400) and fix or sell three others (RD250 x2 and another RD350).
In addition to the CB750 in my sig pic I've got another of the same year awaiting resto and a sidecar, an 76 BMW R75/6 with sidecar in the process of an engine rebuild, an 89 Honda GB500 with electrical gremlins (driving me nuts as it was running when I parked it and a couple weeks later deader than 4 a.m.) and a 98 Valkyrie that I use touring. Better than a drug addiction and much cheaper than getting into muscle cars. Gotta admit to a having a sweet spot for a '55 Chevy though.
I've been looking longingly at my bikes but don't feel up to riding yet. I've got some shoulder damage (both arms) from totalling an F350 in January. I did get a bit of a work out yesterday taking out two trees, one fallen (25 foot pine) in the high winds we had last week and the other one dead but still standing (about a 35 foot pine). Shoulders weren't too painful, but I'm glad I have a tractor to drag & lift them.
Back in the day, I owned an RD350, and an RZ400. Tough bikes, for their sizes. And I remember the truck accident and the mention of the trees...
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183090 Mar 10, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't see the vid - I had trouble with your links the first go around and only looked at one of 'em. Which link was it (sorry for the bother)?
No bother, buddy...

http://arewelivinginthelastdays.com/news/vid/...

Watch the one with Rep John Haller.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183091 Mar 10, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup, it gets funny in here at times. I think most of us would have a lot more in common apart from differing opinions on this particular topic.
:-D
TalesOfCOG

Covina, CA

#183092 Mar 10, 2013
The new sgvCOG director (who ran away from San Bernardino) will be honored at this Tuesday's council meeting.
Bruno

Los Angeles, CA

#183093 Mar 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Back in the day, I owned an RD350, and an RZ400. Tough bikes, for their sizes. And I remember the truck accident and the mention of the trees...
I always thought that back in the day, you blew an average of six black men a day at ten dollars a pop.
Some Never Came Home

Beacon, NY

#183094 Mar 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
I see. Speaking my mind makes me a bigot. My Constitutional rights do not matter now, eh? No rights were removed from the gays, there were sodomy laws before Prop 8, but the laws have been getting changed to please the gays. You're mistakenly making a silly analogy. Equality is being taken seriously, but the natural and balanced and correct mating practices are being thrown away, to satisfy some small number of libertines that wish to get governmental benefits from the till. I take equality very seriously, but I do not accept changing the traditional views of marriage to provide benefits for any old pairing off of couples. Do you agree with allowing illegal immigrants to receive amnesty, BTW? Just checking on a hunch...
And I still fail to see any logic what so ever in this and any posts of yours! Sure the benefits are part of what married gays want but there are many other reasons why! There are 10's of thousands of married gay family's many raising children and many married legally in the 10 or so states that allow it! All are tax paying Americans who are only again asking to have the very same rights you and I are allowed as heterosexuals in marriage! I might add there are over 1000 rights and privileges that a legal marriage affords a couple,so as I stated the benefits are part of it but by far not the only reasons that they want legal recognition from the Government and all 50 states! And as far as your question on immigration I believe that all people coming to this country should do so legally the same way my father did coming from Italy in 1905,and the rest deported immediately! Also no anchor children allowed,we are one of the few country's that allow citizenship merely by being born here! So I guess you were guessing wrong on my position on immigration! Sorry to disappoint you! Again,legally married gay couple raising children especially,should be entitled to the very same marriage rights that you and I have and enjoy as straight males,same with females! Oh,and since were talking about classic bikes as a side subject I still have and ride a vintage 1000 Kawi that the California highway patrol used to have on the old T.V. series CHP's! And that thing is as fast as greased lightning and I believe was the fastest stock bike introduced the year they came out! The times they are a changing and come this June you will be a very unhappy bigot,but you will have to live with it! So sad,to bad!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#183095 Mar 11, 2013
RubyTheDyke wrote:
<quoted text>
Certainly an iteresting biological state of affairs; not sure how you dela with it but hopre in whatever resolutions you found in regards to the issues you faced brought you personal satsifaction and fulfillment.
Daling, it just begs the issue: the FACTS are the existence of gay and lesbian households all over the world with the presence of children that they have guardianship over as their parents, biological and adopted. So while you can make any theories and distictions you want, its the REALITY of the situation, regardless of how that situation came about, that is important, that needs to be addressed in a real manner, based on their real needs and our real and practical capacity, in terms of our governmental social policies, to aid those famiies in their efforts to prosper with the same equality we treat all families.
The fact is hunk, children in default family situations already have MORE assistance then children in the natural family setting.

All of this begs the issue; At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Gay couples are a direct defective contradiction of the primary goal of evolution. Literally 'unmarriage'.

All of the necessary and deserved rights and protections are available through civil unions.

Moreover, if homosexuals want validation of their orientation, establish your own relational identity without imposing an imposter relationship on marriage. Even a child can see the difference. Especially if one couple is mom and dad. The only natural ones they will ever have.

Smile.
Anonymous

Lagos, Nigeria

#183097 Mar 11, 2013
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