Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201481 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182100 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Tell us why you think Prop 8 has anything to do with polygamy, when the California Supreme Court says it does not.
Prop 8 says "a man and a woman" only. The CA court wanted to make damn sure repealing it didn't in any way legalize polygamy. And polygamy wasn't the reason for repealing it, same sex marriage was.

This proves my case, that prop 8 excluded polygamists too, or else why would the court even mention it, Miss Thing?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182101 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
When SCOTUS puts this heinous proposition to rest, I hope that lawsuits will be initiated against NOM and Protect Marriage.
That's because you are angry, mean and vindictive.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182102 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Don't blame me for your inability to clearly express your stupid opinions. You never take responsibility for anything, do ya?
Look back. I often specify adults.

You're grasping at straws.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182103 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Don't blame me for your inability to clearly express your stupid opinions. You never take responsibility for anything, do ya?
My opinions are not stupid.

You believe same sex marriage should be allowed. I believe same sex marriage and poly marriage should be allowed.

Jazybird58

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#182104 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I often specify adults. I figured by now it was understood. So sue me.
You're grasping at straws.
Lets support TRUE marriage equality, Frank. Other countries that support polygamy allow teenagers to be married. So Frank why don't you support 12,13,14 year old kids being married???? Come on Frank In Saudi Arabia, polygamy is legal, and no age restrictions. What could possibly be of harm to society???
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182105 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Prop 8 says "a man and a woman" only. The CA court wanted to make damn sure repealing it didn't in any way legalize polygamy. And polygamy wasn't the reason for repealing it, same sex marriage was.
This proves my case, that prop 8 excluded polygamists too, or else why would the court even mention it, Miss Thing?
Look, dumbass, the Court mentioned it when they granted marriage to gay couples, not about Prop 8. Jesus tap-dancing Christ! You have THE WORST reading comprehension of any Topix poster. I can't believe anyone is this sloppy and stupid.

"We emphasize that our conclusion that the constitutional right to marry properly must be interpreted to apply to gay individuals and gay couples does not mean that this constitutional right similarly must be understood to extend to polygamous or incestuous relationships."

CAN YOU READ??? Let me condense it for you:

...our conclusion.. DOES NOT MEAN.. constitutional right to polygamous relationships.
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182106 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
My opinions are not stupid.
Ok.... how about this: Your opinions are not based in fact or reality.
not really too

Madison, WI

#182107 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Look back. I often specify adults.
You're grasping at straws.
I want 8 wives, all under the age of 15. Why are you trying to diminish my marriage rights?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182108 Mar 1, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Lets support TRUE marriage equality, Frank. Other countries that support polygamy allow teenagers to be married. So Frank why don't you support 12,13,14 year old kids being married???? Come on Frank In Saudi Arabia, polygamy is legal, and no age restrictions. What could possibly be of harm to society???
Those countries consider sex appropriate for those age children, we do not. Are you now going to claim sex is irrelevant in marriage?

12 year old girls getting pregnant is not healthy or wise.

We are not talking about Saudi Arabia, we are talking about California.

If you want to discuss 12 year olds having sex, go to your favorite kiddie porn site. Hope you get caught, pervert.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182109 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Ok.... how about this: Your opinions are not based in fact or reality.
Prop 8 mentioning polygamy (a man and a woman) and the CA Supreme court mentioning polygamy in it's decision is fact and reality.

Your denial is not.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182110 Mar 1, 2013
not really too wrote:
<quoted text>I want 8 wives, all under the age of 15. Why are you trying to diminish my marriage rights?
Because the children are too young to have children. And too irresponsible.

You're grasping at straws.

I often specify adults for just this reason. Jackasses like you. There's a class action suit against me for neglecting to specify it this time, Get in on it!
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182111 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text> Look, dumbass,....
CAN YOU READ??? Let me condense it for you:
...our conclusion.. DOES NOT MEAN.. constitutional right to polygamous relationships.
Right, they wanted to eliminate the gender part of prop 8 but keep the number part. They wanted to make damn sure repealing it didn't possibly legalize poly or make it easier to legalize poly.

Proves my point. Prop 8 mentions polygamy, The courts decision mentions polygamy.

Jazybird58

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#182112 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Those countries consider sex appropriate for those age children, we do not. Are you now going to claim sex is irrelevant in marriage?
12 year old girls getting pregnant is not healthy or wise.
We are not talking about Saudi Arabia, we are talking about California.
If you want to discuss 12 year olds having sex, go to your favorite kiddie porn site. Hope you get caught, pervert.
OH I see you only want polygamy legal in California. You want to talk about marriage equality don't you?

In June 2005, Jeffs was charged with sexual assault on a minor and with conspiracy to commit sexual misconduct with a minor for allegedly arranging, in April 2001, a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old first cousin, Allen. The girl, Elissa Wall (then only known as "Jane Doe IV") testified that she begged "Uncle Rulon" to let her wait until she was older, or choose another man for her. Rulon Jeffs was apparently "sympathetic", but Warren Jeffs was not, and she was forced to go through with the marriage. The 14-year-old alleged that her new husband raped her repeatedly and that she repeatedly miscarried

It looks like age was not a problem in this polygamous marriage.

Jazybird58

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#182113 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Because the children are too young to have children. And too irresponsible.
You're grasping at straws.
I often specify adults for just this reason. Jackasses like you. There's a class action suit against me for neglecting to specify it this time, Get in on it!
Come on Frank, having children is not a requirement in marriage. Why are you grasping at straws??
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182115 Mar 1, 2013
People he is either too stupid to understand, or too stubborn to admit how obviously wrong he is no matter how many point it out in how many different ways
sanford

Covina, CA

#182116 Mar 1, 2013
D stands for DUMMY
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#182117 Mar 1, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Racial slur reported.
Who, me ?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182118 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Right, they wanted to eliminate the gender part of prop 8 but keep the number part. They wanted to make damn sure repealing it didn't possibly legalize poly or make it easier to legalize poly.
Proves my point. Prop 8 mentions polygamy, The courts decision mentions polygamy.
Yeah because Prop 8 funded out of Utah was all about banning polygamy in California, Same sex marriage just got in the way, an unintended consequence. But they used that consequence in their advertisements to trick people into thinking it was about Same Sex Marriage

( people are staring at me, I am laughing so hard typing that )
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#182119 Mar 1, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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If nobody else will answer this, then I will:
Our right to limit marriage to one person is backed by the fact that no stigma in our psyche rationally provokes us to want to mate with more than one person. Maybe on a conscious level that may seem like the case sometimes, but it doesn't resonate subconsciously, or at least has not yet been shown to by psychologists.
Which is exactly the opposite case for homosexuality. Scientists, biologists, psychologists - they've all reached the same conclusion regarding this. When it's looked at in an objective, unbiased light, any experienced practician can see the trend: homosexuality is just as genetic as taste buds. The desire to commit bigamy is not.
Gay relationships are not the equivalent of bigamy and shouldn't be equated as such.
I don't know how you could have invented such claptrap. "Stigma" ? You cannot be serious. Stigma is shame attached to something. Such as the gays can well attest to. To use that word in this context is irrational, to say the least. Stigma cannot be used in this way. Stigma is something that describes taboos, and if anyone has the right to enact taboos, then the heterosexuals have the right to deny the homosexuals in exactly the same way. You are using mighty big words to describe an invalid notion. Stigma is not used to describe any reasoning that we use to decide upon our mating choices. Our right to limit marriage to one person is backed by the archaic Christian tenets. Nothing more. And since we have, apparently, decided to throw religion to the wind, we have no choice but to allow polygamy in the same legislation that is being used to allow SSM. Anything else is a matter of obfuscation. "Allow this, but deny that." ? If the gays can misappropriate marriage to lay claim to governmental rights that are provided to help valid families, then so can polygamists.

Scientists, biologists, psychologists have all provided enough data to support either side, let's not make false claims that SSM is approved of by all, it is not. Downs Syndrome is also as genetic as the taste buds, but also not to be desired. Also aberrational.

Gay relationships are not the equivalent of heterosexuality and shouldn't be equated as such.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#182120 Mar 1, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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I'm sorry, which side of this argument are you on again? The anti-equality one?
Yea, the pro-equality guy here is quite the "bigot", eh?
No, it's you "anti-equality" gays that are the bigots. You wish to have your choices validated, but refuse to admit the validity of any other ones.

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