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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#175495 Jan 16, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU call yourself a "Monster Mutation", not me. So, I'm just wondering if you think you should have been aborted. You are pretty worthless.
:)
Here is the paradox;

Admitting the worst thing about ourselves sets us free from it.

You really need to try it.
Black momma

Norwalk, CA

#175496 Jan 16, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG, Blue Velvet....The moral of that movie is that there some VERY disturbed people in this world....Frank Booth..LOL..Frank starts huffing, be somewhere else, eh ?
I know just misunderstood but I also like Its a wonderful life and Gone with the wind and Snatcj
Black momma

Norwalk, CA

#175497 Jan 16, 2013
I mean snatch and trainspotting good old iggy pop still standing and took Whitney and micheal
4humanrights

San Mateo, CA

#175498 Jan 16, 2013
to IMPOSE ONCE Personal Moral values to others is IMMORAL & unconstitutional.

HISTORY LESSON ON ANIMAL RIGHTS AND TYRANNY

“Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

Hitler's Nazi Germany was marked by a preoccupation with "animal rights." Hitler's Third Reich passed numerous animal protection laws, such as declaring that shoeing a horse was cruel, and declared an end to dissection. This reduced Man’s status to that of animals, and justified treating men as animals. Before the war was ended, the Nazis stepped up experiments on the best way to castrate a Jew without anesthesia, and turned countless men, women and children into lampshades and soap. These Nazi actions were justifiable by their belief that it was possible to "...increase the moral standing of animals and decrease the moral standing of people, thus integrating human characteristics to animals... elevating animal life to the level of cult worship...which would lead to the spiritual and ideological changes necessary... for a new national identity."

The real political objective of “animal rights” is to eliminate "unalienable rights," and to make way for all these other supposed rights and pervert our Bill of Rights to the point where only the perverted are protected. A favored socialist strategy is to separate the population from common sense and its own laws by bringing about chaos, clouding real issues, then bring about “change” through gradual “legislation from within.” Ruling by planned crisis is the favored method, as this short-circuits the brain’s ability to think and reason clearly about true issues. This planned chaos (such as “animal cruelty,”“puppy mills” and “cock fighting”) is designed to rob the nation of its creativity and life force, degrade human existence, make everything seem uncontrollable and bad, which then allows the introduction of a tyrannical form of government.

The Gestapo was first used by Goring to do away with political opponents. A "temporary" state of emergency was declared after the Reichstag fire, but was never rescinded. This allowed the Gestapo to enforce conformity at every level of society. Block wardens monitored their neighbors, and children were recruited to inform on their teachers and parents. The Gestapo was authorized to hold people in "protective custody" which was really arbitrary arrest and imprisonment. At first, only political prisoners were taken under the guise of "preventive protective custody" and placed in SS-controlled concentration camps; later, anyone was hunted down and taken who was deemed to not fit in with SS and Gestapo vision of a perfect Aryan society.("SS" came from Schutzstaffel which means "elite guard").

Today we see this same conduct and set of circumstances appearing in some of our civic institutions. The only way for one man to achieve dominion and control over another is through the darkness of IGNORANCE. Let’s get educated about our own laws, so that tyranny cannot gain a foothold in America, and so that we can once again have “happiness and good government flowing forth” as paraphrased by all our early education laws. We do have some beautiful laws. Let’s learn them, and insist that our civic institutions obey them for the good of our nation. God Bless America.





-Compiled by: Janet I. Fischer and S.A. Martin

17954-A S. Euclid Ave.

Chino, CA 91710
4humanrights

San Mateo, CA

#175499 Jan 16, 2013
IT's IMMORAL & unconstitutional to IMPOSE once personal Moral values to others!

HISTORY LESSON ON ANIMAL RIGHTS AND TYRANNY

“Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

Hitler's Nazi Germany was marked by a preoccupation with "animal rights." Hitler's Third Reich passed numerous animal protection laws, such as declaring that shoeing a horse was cruel, and declared an end to dissection. This reduced Man’s status to that of animals, and justified treating men as animals. Before the war was ended, the Nazis stepped up experiments on the best way to castrate a Jew without anesthesia, and turned countless men, women and children into lampshades and soap. These Nazi actions were justifiable by their belief that it was possible to "...increase the moral standing of animals and decrease the moral standing of people, thus integrating human characteristics to animals... elevating animal life to the level of cult worship...which would lead to the spiritual and ideological changes necessary... for a new national identity."

The real political objective of “animal rights” is to eliminate "unalienable rights," and to make way for all these other supposed rights and pervert our Bill of Rights to the point where only the perverted are protected. A favored socialist strategy is to separate the population from common sense and its own laws by bringing about chaos, clouding real issues, then bring about “change” through gradual “legislation from within.” Ruling by planned crisis is the favored method, as this short-circuits the brain’s ability to think and reason clearly about true issues. This planned chaos (such as “animal cruelty,”“puppy mills” and “cock fighting”) is designed to rob the nation of its creativity and life force, degrade human existence, make everything seem uncontrollable and bad, which then allows the introduction of a tyrannical form of government.

The Gestapo was first used by Goring to do away with political opponents. A "temporary" state of emergency was declared after the Reichstag fire, but was never rescinded. This allowed the Gestapo to enforce conformity at every level of society. Block wardens monitored their neighbors, and children were recruited to inform on their teachers and parents. The Gestapo was authorized to hold people in "protective custody" which was really arbitrary arrest and imprisonment. At first, only political prisoners were taken under the guise of "preventive protective custody" and placed in SS-controlled concentration camps; later, anyone was hunted down and taken who was deemed to not fit in with SS and Gestapo vision of a perfect Aryan society.("SS" came from Schutzstaffel which means "elite guard").

Today we see this same conduct and set of circumstances appearing in some of our civic institutions. The only way for one man to achieve dominion and control over another is through the darkness of IGNORANCE. Let’s get educated about our own laws, so that tyranny cannot gain a foothold in America, and so that we can once again have “happiness and good government flowing forth” as paraphrased by all our early education laws. We do have some beautiful laws. Let’s learn them, and insist that our civic institutions obey them for the good of our nation. God Bless America.





-Compiled by: Janet I. Fischer and S.A. Martin

17954-A S. Euclid Ave.

Chino, CA 91710
Black momma

Norwalk, CA

#175500 Jan 16, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I must confess to being a blue eyed blonde haired Goy, but I grew up in A Jewish neighborhood in NY and I am an official friend of Jews having been a guest at five Bar Mitzvahs during my 3 years at Jerusalem Junior High School.
I love the Jews! Fine people. Except Mona Lott.
Let me you about family history all were in the arm forces my aunt married a Jew I have gone to bar and bat mitzvahs with 5 kids, my uncle married a Asian lady 2kids,my other uncle married pure native American off the reservation no kids I don't care but you would think by now all this would stop. I don't understand why some white people think that land was discover by them can you say stolen but it's ok I like it here and love my people all Americans my husband is French Canadian and
Irish I grew up in the subs of Lakewood he grew up in the hood not around colored,Negros,African
Americans,or dignified black folks he grew with
n...gas which I prefer and I love stoner fast time at ridgemont high spicole type take a break everyone chill someday when it is all gone it is
gone, I wish love and peace because where ever you go there you are

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#175502 Jan 16, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
<quoted text>
Name calling? Still haven't answered back at my arguement. So another queer who fancies hudson? Why do you have the hots for him? Your very weird.
more assumptions without merit. seems to be your m.o.

do you know the difference between you're & your? just checkin'

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#175503 Jan 16, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
You also have my approval, slap the shit out of him, even it takes all day, and I hope it does...
all day? id estimate at least one year to complete.
Rush

Columbus, NE

#175506 Jan 16, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure your hiding too. We managed to reveal all of hudsons secrets, you think I can't kill you off too?
Looks like you really scared evryone out of here.
Lon Nol Nguyen

Los Angeles, CA

#175507 Jan 16, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I must confess to being a blue eyed blonde haired Goy, but I grew up in A Jewish neighborhood in NY and I am an official friend of Jews having been a guest at five Bar Mitzvahs during my 3 years at Jerusalem Junior High School.
I love the Jews! Fine people. Except Mona Lott.
In other words, you are a white trash bi-sexual pedophile who wants to be a jew but can't because of your adolph hitler tattoo.
alice phepps

Los Angeles, CA

#175508 Jan 16, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, sweetheart.
"What's the Rock got cooking?"
:-D
Aren't you the same R Hudson that used to have a registered account here?? Did the police finally catch up with you and you had to delete your account here? Did they track you down because of your avatar?
Black momma

Norwalk, CA

#175509 Jan 16, 2013
Lon Nol Nguyen wrote:
<quoted text>
In other words, you are a white trash bi-sexual pedophile who wants to be a jew but can't because of your adolph hitler tattoo.
You know hurt to frank (of mice and men) you won't get to pet them rabbits long duck dong close enough
Black momma

Norwalk, CA

#175510 Jan 16, 2013
Hey you want to know pressure try being the cute little fat girl. I had great parents but why did they decide to drink with half the black double rock on the Zion little cross bc on the silver Calvary church big sistas bringing in the sheep. All you would here is Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robertson & all the miracles come on girl do that dance the mash potatoes now do the daddy says he is not home when the bill collectors call you see why prop 8 is just another dance people have rights learn the dance and deal with it.I just wish the next prez fool everyone and soon as that ballot is check out. His famous speech thank you we will change some things in the white house we are gonna make it FABULOUS snap
snap thought you knew I wish my brother George were here and by the way Hilary grey is not your color ms thang We are going to have a
JUDY GARLAND day hooray can you see the tea
party everything coming up roses I want full gay just for my pleasure

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#175514 Jan 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is the paradox;
Admitting the worst thing about ourselves sets us free from it.
You really need to try it.
It is the same principle that perpetuates this unending tension about homosexuality. Why is it not there for other differences?

The denial that ss orientation is a defect. Not a moral one, just a sexual 'manufacturing' fault of some type.

The denial that anal sex is a clear violation of design with horrible consequences. Inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.

This spiritual truth still stands; Confession is good for the soul.

What will happen if you start down that road?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#175516 Jan 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
It is the same principle that perpetuates this unending tension about homosexuality. Why is it not there for other differences?
The denial that ss orientation is a defect. Not a moral one, just a sexual 'manufacturing' fault of some type.
The denial that anal sex is a clear violation of design with horrible consequences. Inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
This spiritual truth still stands; Confession is good for the soul.
What will happen if you start down that road?
I don’t have any tension about homosexuals, they Americans the same as anyone else. The defect is your obsession with denying other Americans that are perhaps different than yourself equality and freedom that the rest of us enjoy.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#175517 Jan 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I never diminished marriage to children alone. I simply and factually noted that marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
I have posted numerous times "If You" which lists numerous distinctions besides children between marriage and gay couples.
One of the most profound is the union of diverse genders, creating a whole new being which happens to also reconnect to the very origin of humanity when life was genderless. Gays can only duplicate their gender.
Childless hetero couples have never been discriminated against in any culture in all of human history. On the other hand, gay couples have never been accepted as married.
2. Nor have I restricted marriage to any religion. Your claim of a Christian church accepting gay couples as married is simply and clearly heresy. The same rejection is true in every major religion.
The only prevailing interest the government has in marriage is the protection of the weaker mate and the children birthed within the relationship. The government has no reason or right to regulate friendships, especially in a discriminatory manner.
Please get your facts straight next time.
Smile.
You are the one that needs to get your facts straight, there are thousands of churches asking to preform same sex marriages, why are their religious freedoms being denied?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#175518 Jan 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I don’t have any tension about homosexuals, they Americans the same as anyone else. The defect is your obsession with denying other Americans that are perhaps different than yourself equality and freedom that the rest of us enjoy.
Hence your participation on this forum...

:-)

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#175519 Jan 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the one that needs to get your facts straight, there are thousands of churches asking to preform same sex marriages, why are their religious freedoms being denied?
You lied about what I said. Get your facts straight.

1. Because marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Gay couples are a absolute and defective contradiction, literally 'unmarriage'.

2. A 'church' can do whatever it wants. However those attempting to perform 'marriage' with gay couples are simply and clearly apostate organizations.

3. There are millions of churches who agree with me.

4. And the vast witness of billions of churches over Christian history.

Smile.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#175520 Jan 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You lied about what I said. Get your facts straight.
1. Because marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Gay couples are a absolute and defective contradiction, literally 'unmarriage'.
2. A 'church' can do whatever it wants. However those attempting to perform 'marriage' with gay couples are simply and clearly apostate organizations.
3. There are millions of churches who agree with me.
4. And the vast witness of billions of churches over Christian history.
Smile.
No I am trying to understand all this tension you have about the subject, tension that you and people like you create

I could personally care less what any churches anywhere think, their rules are for believers in which ever that particular religion has and no one else, this is the land of the free.

However I find it humorous that it is religious people working to deny other religious people equality and freedom.

It is like the father of the revolution said, John Adams- "this would be the best of all possible worlds were there no religion in it"

Marriage my be a "holy thing" to one religion, and less of so to another, I don’t care, we are talking about the law, in the eyes of the law it is a legal contract that should be applied equally regardless of race, creed, sex, religion, orientation or national origin.

The problem is not homosexuals, the problem are Americans who are hate bent trying to deny rights to others different than themselves, that is not the American way.

You are on the losing side of freedom, it will prevail, no matter how much tension you try to create over it
Big D

Modesto, CA

#175521 Jan 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Hence your participation on this forum...
:-)
I try and understand a perspective different than my own, yours is one I cannot fathom, there is no one in this world I hate so much as to deny them equal rights under the law.

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