Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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#171246 Dec 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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The "theft of honor" statement is in reference to the theft of the honor that we bestow upon a man and woman, who have gotten married. And, given the current assault upon the integrity of marriage, The married heterosexual are the war veterans. That's right,"...a title they do not rate.".
But gays never stole any honor from heterosexual couples.

Heterosexual couples had been married and continue to do so therefore any 'honor' you see in their unions is still intact.

Upon pointing to that fact your "point" about gays "steling honor" from opposite sexed couples is moot.

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#171247 Dec 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Why must you stoop to sarcasm, and mockery ? I was under the impression that you could debate like a man...
Because you're a pompous fool.

And as it is you yourself utilize sarcasm and mockery or did you forget your little posts advising how great and powerful you are...LOL!!!

You're a hypocrite friend. Besides, you make an easy target.

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#171248 Dec 14, 2012
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Actually, I do, too. He was considered a stud, no matter which side of the fence you were on...
:-D
Rock Hudson it is then.

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#171249 Dec 14, 2012
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Your first surprise, then, "konbanwa" wasn't a bad thing after all.
Your second surprise is that I don't care how they live their "personal" lives, I care that traditional definitions are being turned on their ears, to accommodate a small number of citizens. If they want to be gay, then let them. I do not wish to see them legitimized in an official way, as they are aberrations. And to be perfectly honest, I dig 2 women together, who wouldn't want to be with a woman, it's the males that I have a problem with, acting like girls. One of my best friends is in the process of becoming a girl, and while I am trying very hard to not have a problem with it, I find that I cannot accept this. I am not happy with myself, for this, but I am honest with myself. I feel that it is wrong.
Many freedoms and civil rights are allowed a small number of citizens.

Their numbers don't discount the fact they are still citizens and due a full set of rights.

In your obvious disdain of gays I doubt one of your best friends is a transgender. FYI. I think you include this fabrication in here to but some sort of bizarre credence to your hateful rants on gays marrying.

The fact you see gays as 'aberations' as well as their wish to marry is your opinion don't forget and until you become Empororer of the U.S. it stays just that. The fact you're going to have to swallow is by increasing number others are realizing gays wanting to pursue the freedom of marriage because it's being seen as a basic right that should be given to them is taking place hence the increasing number of states allowing gays TO marry.

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#171250 Dec 14, 2012
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As my ending might have been ambiguous, I am correcting the ending. I feel that his becoming a girl is wrong.
Got it. And your "best friend" is doing it.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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#171251 Dec 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Marriage, or the pairing of man and woman existed long before the existence of anything remotely resembling "legal union". As well as the phenomenon of disapproval of gays.
So did slavery.

So was it that most cultures considered women secondary including women in the U.S. whom weren't allow to vote until the early 1900's.

So was it that a great republic based on democratic principles didn't exist until the late 1700's.

So was it that child labor was accepted until the 1900's.

-We could go on.

Because an aspect of freedom wasn't gained until later in civilization does not paint it wrong Chief.

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#171252 Dec 14, 2012
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You might think that you are slick with that, but I do not dance, sir. I get to the point, in spite of any ignorance of the part of the libertines. 2 men or 2 women constitute a mismatched pairing. Not the point of marriage. Marriage is an institution for procreating couples to use in order to establish a continuity of inheritance and unity, closed to any outside interloping or interference. Marriage is now being assailed, by the gays, in order to lay claim to a validity that does not have any historical recognition, and to claim some vast number of governmental rights that were established, in order to protect the family unit. Dance around that. 3 legged dog on a cocaine diet ? I smell dan, with a sock puppet, due to the protracted analogy.
Your opinion.

I see you dancing. Dancing around the fact American citizens...ALL American citizens are due a full set of liberties unless those liberties produce harm and as of yet you have no proof of viable harm gay marriage causes.

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#171253 Dec 14, 2012
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Marriage is an institution for procreating couples to use in order to establish a continuity of inheritance and unity, closed to any outside interloping or interference.
Really.

So in your view of marriage infertile couples should not be able to marry.

Interesting.

And as far as any contiuance of "inheritance and unity" marriage is non tangible freedom. There is no "inheritance" other than claiming citizens of this country shoupld be allowed freedoms including that to marry of which gays are...citizens so again any "point" you're attempting to make is moot.

The "unity" aspect is laughable given we're already unified as United States citizens of which there are gays in it's ranks.

Your rantings go nowhere friend outside of speeling out an obvious skewed disdain for a grouping of Americans you don't seem to care for because of your own personal reasons..

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#171254 Dec 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Marriage is now being assailed, by the gays, in order to lay claim to a validity that does not have any historical recognition, and to claim some vast number of governmental rights that were established, in order to protect the family unit.
It's your opinion gays cannot form a family unit when in fact they already have ultiple times.

Historical recognition?

They've been doing it here in our country for some time now and look:

http://www.ranker.com/list/countries-where-ga...

Again any "point" you were attempting to make here is easily stricken down.

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#171255 Dec 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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3 legged dog on a cocaine diet ? I smell dan, with a sock puppet, due to the protracted analogy.
Prove it given I've had no need for a sock puppet.

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#171256 Dec 14, 2012
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Your first surprise, then, "konbanwa" wasn't a bad thing after all.

Your second surprise is that I don't care how they live their "personal" lives,...
The first was a surprise in the fact all you've managed to do is advertise your dislike of me in here.

Are you now wanting to make nice??

I'll bet my marble collection you too didn't know it's meaning.

And your "second surprise" is a blatant life. Gays getting married IS part of their personal lives you dolt.

LOL!!!

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#171257 Dec 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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One of my best friends is in the process of becoming a girl, and while I am trying very hard to not have a problem with it, I find that I cannot accept this. I am not happy with myself, for this, but I am honest with myself. I feel that it is wrong.
No on here is telling you what to think.

The only direction you're being given is your opinions should not supercede the freedoms we should allow fellow American citizens based simply on your transparent disdain of them.

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#171258 Dec 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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So, you wish to pretend to be another brainiac, complete with non-witty analogies, like dan, huh ? Give it up, sushi-boi, 9 states is a minority, and you know it. They are trading rings, while the fad lasts, but it will not become national policy. Period.
This is Dan you moron.

And allowing liberties to fellow citizens has never been a fad.

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#171259 Dec 14, 2012
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Tells us that an awful lot of lobbyists are on their knees, subverting national identity. Let me guess, you're a lobbyist ?
"Subverting national identity"...LOL!!!

I love your attempts at muddying the waters.

No friend...I'm no lobbyist. I'm just some character like you voicing my opinion regarding gays being allowed to marry.

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#171260 Dec 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Would you mind, awfully, saying that in English, please ?
It already was.

Two steps in learning to read.

Understanding the words themselves and then it's on to comprehension.

Apparently you've managed to gain ground on one aspect but not the other.

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#171261 Dec 14, 2012
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Prove it given I've had no need for a sock puppet.
Oh Dan you silly galoot, everyone knows it's you!

You big dopey fibber!

Too Funny!

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#171262 Dec 14, 2012
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Oh,'I' almost forgot...
'I' hold 2 degrees, in Chemistry and Astrophysics, and 'I' have been a teacher.
FYI, "Friend".
By the way...the 'Unibomber' was quite a scholar as well.

Just an FYI.

But I satill doubt your claim given the feedback I've seen from you in here.

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#171263 Dec 14, 2012
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Well they certainly attract those.
I have yet to meet racist, or a woman hater that was not a republican, but I have met some republicans that were neither of those, just self-centered.
Only republicans are racists and women haters! At their very best they are self centered!

NICE!

And this bigoted dope says he is here to support equal rights.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

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#171264 Dec 14, 2012
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It already was.
Two steps in learning to read.
Understanding the words themselves and then it's on to comprehension.
Apparently you've managed to gain ground on one aspect but not the other.
I didn't understand it either Dan. I guess I need to gain ground in the aspect of formatting our government on a full set of liberties that provides no inherent viable harm.

Let gays marry!

FUN!

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#171265 Dec 14, 2012
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First, let me thank you, dan, for confirming that is one of your sock puppets, "friend", as well as the idiotic analogies...
Now, to business...
You are obviously stuck in the Twilight Zone, because you inserted the word "abusive' into an argument, a word that I never used. I have not denied the use of the word "foster', merely your attempt to place words into my mouth, in order to attack me for them. Find my post that clearly displays my use of the words "abusive foster homes' as something to be promoted..Foster care is temporary, adoption is permanent. I promote adoption by normal families that have normal values to teach much along the same lines as animals needing "forever homes", not TDY in several stops along the way to adulthood.
I wish to thank all the powers that be, that I do not live anywhere you, as I would probably find my house toilet papered on Samhain, find myself blinded at Christmas time, and who knows what other indignities ?
I have no doubt that my cars would be vandalized, that my family would be harrassed, and that the police would be called on a regular basis for no reason whatsoever, everytime you hit the Night Train, or Mad Dog 20/20, or whatever rotgut you drink. You are abhorrent in here, and there is no doubt in my mind that you are an atrocious neighbor. Why not do your poor neighbors a favor, and pick up the broken bottles that must surely litter the property that you currently reside in, even though it is nothing more than a trailer park ?
No, it isn't by all indications, it is being decided right now, but all indications would point to the fact that this is nothing more than a fad. Indicators show that gays have never been thought of, as legit, and there is no reason to change that now.
Ciao, dan
Hudson-sama. Ichi-ban-sama.
There are quite a number of abusive foster care situations. Add to that foster care is not a healthy envirement for kids to grow up in.

Disagree?

And what about the multitude of children that don't get adopted by opposite sexed families? By your account you'd rather see them rot in foster care or orphanges than to be allowed to grow up in a loving family that happens to be gay so in turn you don't care about the little kiddies so stop thinking you do given that's an obvious lie.

Gays have been thought of as "legit for quote some time now. They've owned businesses, homes, have been politicians and are increasingly able to get married.

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