Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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MXpilot

Covina, CA

#170941 Dec 11, 2012
A Fox News contributor was punched in the face during a pro-union protest December 11, 2012 Tuesday in Michigan.

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#170943 Dec 11, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I bet if someone went back over the last few pages of posts, they would find that you have posted the terms LOLSER and and CONDUMB more than I have.
You use it daily Rose. It doesn't help your argument one bit.

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#170944 Dec 11, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Skinner v OK was not a case about marriage. It was a case concerning using forced sterilization as a form of punishment for crime.
You should call the court and let them know they got it wrong in Loving V Virginia when they used the precedent set forth in Skinner v Oklahoma that marriage is a "right" when they made their decision.

I am sure they would love to hear from ya Rose.

Since: Jun 07

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#170945 Dec 11, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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That's the court's job. Why do you think we have checks and balances,
Really Rose? Where is the check on the court?

You would know the answer to this if you actually studied the writings of the founder's. But since you haven't you will simply reply with more of your nonsense that has no meaning or relevance to the argument.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#170946 Dec 11, 2012
akpilot wrote:
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Hey Einstein, I already said that in the post you were replying to. Why don't you try reading it a bit slower this time?
"The issue is not "marriage", the issue is the definition of "marriage". In not ONE instance has the SCOTUS ever claimed anything other than the Union of a man and a woman to be a marriage. Could that definition change? Sure, but the question we really should ask ourselves is- do we want a federal court which lacks the authority of the Constitution to define marriage to make that decision?
Remember, they are also going to hear the DOMA case, which specifically was decided based on the premise that the regulation and definition of marriage rested with the State."
I guess you missed the part where I said: " Could that definition change? Sure,..."
Keep trying Dan, you will get there.
The issue is not marriage but the definition of marriage????

WTF???

LOL!!!!

Fact is marriage of and by itself is a singular institution MORON.

And yeah dumbfuck....the right to get married to an adult of one's choice falls under the Constitution in that it's a liberty an American wishes to partake in which causes no harm.

You're one DUMB son of a bitch....LOL!!!

Since: Jun 07

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#170947 Dec 11, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Ugly, I said Loving v VA stated marriage is a right.
And it does.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/histori...
Actually Loving V Virginia did NOT state that marriage was a "right"- Skinner v Oklahoma did, they just affirmed it. Not once does the court say "Marriage is a Right" outside of the reference to Skinner v Oklahoma Rose.

That's why they cited Skinner v Oklahoma. Stop trying to act as if you understand law because you watch Judge Judy.

Since: Jun 07

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#170948 Dec 11, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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The issue is not marriage but the definition of marriage????
WTF???
LOL!!!!
Fact is marriage of and by itself is a singular institution MORON.
And yeah dumbfuck....the right to get married to an adult of one's choice falls under the Constitution in that it's a liberty an American wishes to partake in which causes no harm.
You're one DUMB son of a bitch....LOL!!!
Well, that certainly is your opinion, but your opinion really doesn't matter. As of right now the only group which is legally recognized with a "fundamental right" to marriage is those comprised of one man, one woman. That is why there is a case at the SCOTUS.

And it doesn't matter how angry you get, those facts don't change.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#170949 Dec 11, 2012
akpilot wrote:
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Well, that certainly is your opinion, but your opinion really doesn't matter. As of right now the only group which is legally recognized with a "fundamental right" to marriage is those comprised of one man, one woman. That is why there is a case at the SCOTUS.
And it doesn't matter how angry you get, those facts don't change.
My opinion.

Funny...but it's my opinion that marriage and the definition of marriage are the same.

Brother...you're stupid. Sorry to bring it to your front door but you're dumber than as wet bag of hair.

LOL!!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#170950 Dec 11, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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pssssssst....
....pssssssssst..
..no one cares.
FYI.
You do Dan! Or else you wouldn't respond. Duh.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#170951 Dec 11, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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My opinion.
LOL!!
YUK!YUK!YUK!

Since: Jun 07

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#170952 Dec 11, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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My opinion.
Funny...but it's my opinion that marriage and the definition of marriage are the same.
Brother...you're stupid. Sorry to bring it to your front door but you're dumber than as wet bag of hair.
LOL!!
Was someone suppose to be able to pull something intelligent from this post?

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#170953 Dec 11, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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My opinion.
Funny...but it's my opinion that marriage and the definition of marriage are the same.
Brother...you're stupid. Sorry to bring it to your front door but you're dumber than as wet bag of hair.
LOL!!
What does this post mean? Anybody know?
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#170954 Dec 12, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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"To the contrary, we have many competent members (but not all of them are competent), you can not to do my job without the proper training (as in any industry), you need to know what the hell you are doing to get the job done right (as with any job) and the employer knows it, that is why they agree to our demands (seems to mean that you suggest the union demands are met, because the union demands proper training, even though training occurs in all jobs, union and non-union alike). You are just a loser (can't see how) and can't stand it. You are willing to do without in order to survive (no, I'm not, I do very well).
It's people like you with no back bone to fight for a better living while your employer reeps the benefits (people like me ? Hah! I do very well, without your gang doing anything for me). You can call it extortion or anything else you want, the employers are the same way if not worse. You will never figure it out you scab.(I have figured it out, I don't need the union to make my own way, very nicely, too.)
"Live Better Work UNION" (is a catch phrase for cowards with no backbone or bargaining ability.)
Go talk to your boss like a man, if you can, I talk to mine every day, and I tell him what's on my mind, whenever I want to. Even told him the other day that I like the hell out of him, but that, 1/2 the time, I want to smack the shyte out of him. Did I get fired ? No. Did I get beaten up ? No. We talk, as real men do. If I want something, I go to his office, and request 5 minutes of his time. He always makes the time for me. You should try working away from the shadow of fear.
Seems to me that the union is not necessary for proper training to occur. Why should I go FK myself ? The union has all the FK'ing going on. they are raping idiots, like you...
Whilst I am sure that this "spinless" was supposed to be "spineless", it wasn't spelled properly. Nonetheless.....You are the spinless[sic] one, as you have no balls to use, apart from the ones that your union gives you. Dumb ? Why don't you ask the union to send you back to school, so that you may learn to spell properly?
Nah, I shan't go FK myself. But I MAY go wipe my a$$ with my union membership card, after I am done using it, when it expires. I will continue to reep[sic] the benefits from it, until it is out-of-date. Go and call the Hoffa Hotline and report me for that.
lol you sicko ... we all know what you do for your boss behind closed doors you homo. You are pathedic and need mental treatment

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#170956 Dec 12, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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....bla bla bla dopey Dan stuff... Some may consider that fat thing you married the same so keep that in mind....bla bla bla...more dumb Dan nonsense...STFU.
Here you go Dan. You crudely attacking someone's wife. Just like you did to me. And then you cry like a little bitch when I do it (very mildly and politely) to yours.

You're an icehole and a liar.

And, as always, a big DOPE!

WOOHOOO!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#170957 Dec 12, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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Kleenex at Target will be on sale until 12/15/2012.
FYI
You would know. How much is the Jergen's lotion?

YUK!YUK!YUK!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#170958 Dec 12, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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No one needs to use cleverness in speaking truth.
Yet another fact the Confucious would no doubt agree upon.
That's good because you ain't got any! But you lie anyway.

Funny!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#170959 Dec 12, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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The 14th Amendment holds no sway a to what can be considered basic civil rights.
The right to marry an adult of one's choice appears to be all that.
You're a social fuckup friend. You actually think the nation should revolve itself around your "feelings" of other citizens. If that were the case me and your neighbors would have bought you a one way ticket to China some 21 years ago...LOL!!!
WHAT? Anyone know what this dumb Dan-speak means?

"...14th amendment holds no sway.."? sway?

"...nation should revolve itself..." revolve?

Buy me a ticket to China Dan too, I want a vacation.

P.S. What are your wife's working hours? I don't really care but since you are so concerned about my g.f.'s hours for some reason, just thought I'd ask.

WOOHOO! Dan. What a jackass!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#170960 Dec 12, 2012
I love all this "definition of marriage" talk

It is a joke

I am not about to let any religious organization define words for me, no more than you would allow the word "Jihad" replace the word "preemptive strike" in our language ( chuckle )

I donít care what any religious book says

I donít care what someone thinks is "normal" and I am not about to let anyone else define the word "normal" for me.

Marriage is not about procreation, I know many married couples that can no or do not have children, I am not about to belittle their marriage because of that. Marriages is about a commitment between 2 people to live their lives in support of one another.

My wife is not my property, she is my partner in life, my support, my very best friend, and dearest love.

Marriage has nothing to do with any single religion, I know couples of many different religions and I am not about to belittle any one of them depending on which religion they happen to believe in, or none at all for that matter.

What I do care about is equality, and justice

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#170961 Dec 12, 2012
Big D wrote:
I love all this "definition of marriage" talk
It is a joke
I am not about to let any religious organization define words for me, no more than you would allow the word "Jihad" replace the word "preemptive strike" in our language ( chuckle )
I donít care what any religious book says
I donít care what someone thinks is "normal" and I am not about to let anyone else define the word "normal" for me.
Marriage is not about procreation, I know many married couples that can no or do not have children, I am not about to belittle their marriage because of that. Marriages is about a commitment between 2 people to live their lives in support of one another.
My wife is not my property, she is my partner in life, my support, my very best friend, and dearest love.
Marriage has nothing to do with any single religion, I know couples of many different religions and I am not about to belittle any one of them depending on which religion they happen to believe in, or none at all for that matter.
What I do care about is equality, and justice
Does that equality and justice extend to everyone? Poly marriage? Incest marriage? If so I'm with you. If not you're a hypocrite.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#170962 Dec 12, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
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Does that equality and justice extend to everyone? Poly marriage? Incest marriage? If so I'm with you. If not you're a hypocrite.
Those cases have not been brought up yet, have not really considered them as there has been no complaint about injustice there. If someone wants to bring up a case, I can weigh in.

There was the ... German I think, couple that were married and did not know they were brother and sister and wanted the world to just leave them alone... I agree with them on that case, the world should just leave them alone.

I donít have a problem with Poly marriage, I do have a problem with some religious cults that seem to include abuse of children and non-consent in a poly marriage. It isnít Poly marriage I have an issue with, just some ( not all ) of the cults that practice it.

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