Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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It's funny that you "small government" con dumb think government should be in charge of enforcing traditions. Do you think someone who gives a couple something made of china instead of cotton for their second anniversary should go to jail?
BTW, unless a non consenting party is involve, and act can't be immoral. So, unless someone is forced into a gay marriage, it can't be immoral.
WTF? here have some bananas

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I told you that the nonsense in your head was no substitute for actual proof. You cannot show me saying that I approve of it. Men and women do have equal rights to marry.
Just not true.
If a man walks into the JP and asks to marry a woman, he'll be told "yes", if a woman does the same thing, she'll be told "no".
Has nothing to do with sexual behavior. The JP won't even ask.
"Yes" != "no".
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Neither gender has a sanction against their right to marry. Women are as free to marry, as men are.
Blacks and whites were both free to marry before Loving v VA. But still laws against inter-racial marriage violated the 14th Amendment.
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And homosexuality is behavioral, not orientation.
Are you straight?

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R Hudson wrote:
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1) Marriage is a public act. We do have equal rights. Women and men are able to marry. Inter-racial marriage is allowed. Any person of
legal age and competence is allowed to marry.
Not an equal right.
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2) Homosexuality is defined as sexual relations between same sex couples, not anal sex.
Tell KiMare that.
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And your made up "fun fact" about hetero couples engaging in more anal sex than gay couples is a lie.
Really? What percentage of the population is made up of gay males?
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3) Because same-sex couples cannot create a child-producing combination by themselves, their relationship is a recreational activity more like tennis than like marriage.
Feel the same way about heterosexual couples who can't or choose not to reproduce?
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4) We think that you WERE aborted.
Looks like they got your face with the abortion scalpel, bigfoot!

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R Hudson wrote:
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1) No, Loving v VA was about ending all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States, not gay marriage. Stop tactic #2'ing, right now.
Loving v VA was a case about equal rights WRT marriage.
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2) We object to the misuse of the word to define anyone who opposes the
legitimization of homosexuality as a hate-filled bigot.
Then quit being a hate filled bigot.
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The universal inclusion of all opponents as homophobic is of course not emphasized. Homosexual activists publicly associate this label with violent “gay bashers” and hateful fanatics. When gays use the term, they want people to think about the killers of Matthew Shepard, but in conventional practice they include every man, woman and child who believes homosexuality is abnormal or wrong. Secondly, the term defines opposition to homosexuality as a mental illness. homophobia is a nonsense word invented by “gay” as a rhetorical weapon against its
opponents. It lumps together all opponents as mentally-ill “gay bashers” and, in doing so, declares mainstream doctrines to be harmful and illegitimate. It is fallacious and specious. Abuse of language is a dangerous thing.
3) It is not "phobic" at all, it is sensibility. And can you define any differences between homophobic and non-homophobic opposition to homosexuality?
Can you define any differences between racist and non-racist opposition to all white people?
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4) No, it won't. Common sense will prevail.
Equality will prevail.

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WTF? here have some bananas
Bruno + R Hudson = cat fight!
LOL. It's funny to watch you two scratch at each other.
Just make sure your gel tips have finished curing first!

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AND for Gods sake, talking about proper use of words, the word is "cited", not "sited"...fer crying out loud. Your attempt to look clever is diminished, when you misuse simpler words than any that you have seen me use.
Easy, dude, you should try to read up on "Basic English For Beginners"...
You were attacking your own post. LOL!
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Keepers of the flame.

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If you want to put a chink in the armor of "Procreation is irrelevant in marriage" tell em you support incest marriage. Listen to the stuttering and double talk! Fun!
I do. I support all forms of marriage among consenting adults. I find some of the biggest bigots against less common forms of marriage are same sex marriage advocates. Funny that. You'd think maybe they are hypocrites.
Hypocrisy is not a valid reason to deny someone’s rights. Why don’t you make negative posts to people who only support opposite sex marriages with only two people?

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Everyone seems to be moving off topic? Here's a way to get back on it!?

http://www.examiner.com/article/supreme-court...

:):)

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Hypocrisy is not a valid reason to deny someone’s rights. Why don’t you make negative posts to people who only support opposite sex marriages with only two people?
I sometimes do. Perhaps your bias makes you miss them.

I support same sex marriage. I don't support pompous iceholes who think since they support SSM, their sh!t no longer stinks. And who think I should consider it the most important issue in our troubled world.

Good luck, hope you get to marry whoever you like. Don't shoot the messenger.

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akpilot's only tactic - post his stupid list and avoid dealing with my argument.
Once again Rose, you must present an argument if you want someone to "deal" with it.

My guess is you are simply out of ideas.

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You can't argue against my arguments, so you'll just call me names.
Your right, since your "arguments" are simply fantasies in your own mind which others aren't privy to it is quick difficult to go against them.

How about you share with the rest of us in this forum what exactly this "argument" is that you have presented which I cannot counter?

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Opps, I better make that "you're" before Rose wets herself over a typo.

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Get a job.
She tried, but her Resume was written like her posts and she never got a call back.

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Loving v VA was a case about equal rights WRT marriage.
No, it was a case about interracial marriage.
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Then quit being a hate filled bigot.
Tactic #4
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Can you define any differences between racist and non-racist opposition to all white people?
WTF?
Tactic 1, I guess.
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Equality will prevail.
Not until we rewrite the tax code/

Rose tactic #1- Act stupid-(not so sure it is an act)
Rose Tactic #2- Misdirect
Rose Tactic #3- Make stupid comments until opposition is tired of replying then claim victory
Rose Tactic #4- Attack the poster- scream Racist, Bigot, Homophobe
Rose Tactic #5- Act intelligent by making silly statistical references such as- Most people who have anal sex are straight-
Rose Tactic #6- Falsely accuse others of lies- when proven wrong through links to previous posts revert back to tactics 2 and 4.
Rose Tactic #7- Claim to have made an argument, then claim others can't counter the argument that doesn't actually exist.

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Opps, I better make that "you're" before Rose wets herself over a typo.
People who make typos scream what about the children!

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Oh, so NOW it is a question about mixed couples vs gay couples, eh ? Well, we'd have to examine the differences between the 2 couples.
1) One couple is legitimate, and the other is not. 1 couple is free to marry, and the other is not. That is because of the anti-gay marriage laws, that are the majority rule, that the Federal government is not free to decide. That decision is left to the states, to decide, based upon the sexual behavior of the 2 differing types of couples.
Well, bigfoot, the fact that one couple is free to marry, and the other is not violates the 14th Amendment. That's the whole point. And the issue is gender, we don't know about their sexual behavior.
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2) Glad we straightened that out, that Loving v VA was about inter-racial marriage, and not about gay couples.
It was about equal protection under the law when it comes to marriage. Why deny it?
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3) Of course I am normal.
Well, you were straight before you engaged in any sexual behavior. Weren't you?
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4) You still haven't answered my question about your religious beliefs.....Oh, silly me, there is no #4, that wasn't part of this post, oh well.
I told you, I'm an Orthodox Jew, just like you are Wiccan.
LOL!

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1) Of course it is equal, any man is free to marry any woman. Total equality there.
But, any woman isn't. So, no equality.
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2) Kimare doesn't need to be told obvious facts.
3) You tell me what percentage of the population is made up of gay males.
Fewer than the percentage of straight people who engage in anal sex.
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4) They are trying, properly, and are to free to continue to try, or to abstain, but they are using their equipment correctly.
5) Did your parents abandon you at the animal shelter too early?
LOL, you with your yeti face talking about an animal shelter...
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Because you are plainly a neglected, and hateful, child. Perhaps if they had spent some quality time with you, you would have turned out right.
If you only knew...

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akpilot wrote:
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No, it was a case about interracial marriage.
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Tactic #4
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WTF?
Tactic 1, I guess.
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Not until we rewrite the tax code/
Rose tactic #1- Act stupid-(not so sure it is an act)
Rose Tactic #2- Misdirect
Rose Tactic #3- Make stupid comments until opposition is tired of replying then claim victory
Rose Tactic #4- Attack the poster- scream Racist, Bigot, Homophobe
Rose Tactic #5- Act intelligent by making silly statistical references such as- Most people who have anal sex are straight-
Rose Tactic #6- Falsely accuse others of lies- when proven wrong through links to previous posts revert back to tactics 2 and 4.
Rose Tactic #7- Claim to have made an argument, then claim others can't counter the argument that doesn't actually exist.
akpilot's only tactic - avoid debating my argument and try to insult me.

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There just isn't a rational argument against gay marriage. And the recent elections showed that more and more people are realizing that fact. This is a simple equal rights issue. Religion shouldn't figure into it. People should keep their religions to themselves. Reproduction isn't an issue. You don't have to be able to procreate in order to marry. Tradition isn't an issue. The government shouldn't be in charge of upholding traditions.

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