Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

[Marram]

Mike DiRucci wrote:

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I think you do too.
But that means others wanting to marry "regardless of what the haters think" should also be allowed. Like polygamists and incestuous marriages. That's equality to me, how about you?

I agree with you. However, the fight for Gay Marriage rights does not have to encompass other civil rights issues whether real or perceived to warrant credibility.

[Mike DiRucci]

R Hudson wrote:

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Did he say that you were ?

Dan can't hear well. That chip on his shoulder blocks sound and ideas.

He's a deaf dope!

[Mike DiRucci]

Winston Smiths dog wrote:

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Historically incest and polygamy have had many victims. If you've known anyone who's been a victim of incestual abuse you'd not take this lightly. Personally, I've dated two women that were sexually abused. One by her stepfather and the other by her father (physical and psychological abuse from dear ol' mom was frequent). The scars ran deep. Polygamy in this country has included coerced marriage in countless instances. Incestuous relationships also produce offspring with potentially serious birth defects.
If you can get us around those problems, I'm all for it.

Polygamy BAD! Yada yada yada. Nonsensical bigotry is often used against same sex marriage too.

Of course we're talking about consenting adults, just like same sex marriage. Emphasize CONSENTING. Emphasize ADULTS. Get it? Got it? Good!

[Mike DiRucci]

Marram wrote:

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I agree with you. However, the fight for Gay Marriage rights does not have to encompass other civil rights issues whether real or perceived to warrant credibility.

Disagree. Marriage equality is marriage equality. You can't use the term if it doesn't include polygamists and other consenting adults.

[Mike DiRucci]

R Hudson wrote:

At least I can offer rational., lucid arguments against gay marriage, although your hero, Chongo-no-hope- would deny this..

The old bag doesn't wake up till 5 PM. Never had to. Life of leisure on our dime. Nice subsidized North Hollywood apartment. Free medical care and food.

But she's still angry.

She's a real dope. Promised to never ever respond to me again. I'm real proud of that!

Fun!

[Mike DiRucci]

R Hudson wrote:

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He didn't ask the government, he asked you, who has stated that polygamy is harmful. upon what are you basing this moronic idiocy ? A properly asked, and difficult to answer, question must chap YOUR ass, pretty hard...

It does. It makes him pee his pants and run back to his exciting social life and many cool friends.

Too much heat for Dopey Dan today. He left too quickly! At least he didn't threaten anyone. You know how he gets.

Funny!

[Marram]

Mike DiRucci wrote:

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Disagree. Marriage equality is marriage equality. You can't use the term if it doesn't include polygamists and other consenting adults.

To say I don’t deserve marriage equality because someone else believes they don’t have it is not a valid reason to deny my rights, regardless of possible parallels. Besides, an all or nothing approach typically results in nothing, but, you already know that.

[akpilot]

Dan wrote:

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Incest and polygamy carry inherent harms.
Gay marriage does not.
There's your critical difference.

Why, because you say so Dan?

[Bob]

I Corinthians 6:9(NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Gays go straight to hell as soon as they die. There are no gays in heaven. They are an abomination.

[Mike DiRucci]

Marram wrote:

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To say I don’t deserve marriage equality because someone else believes they don’t have it is not a valid reason to deny my rights, regardless of possible parallels. Besides, an all or nothing approach typically results in nothing, but, you already know that.

Yeah that's what they say against same sex marriage too. Just because someone else believes they don't have it...not a valid reason...bla bla bla.

Equality is equality. Bigotry is bigotry.

You are against marriage equality. But you are for same sex marriage. Got it.

[akpilot]

Dan wrote:

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On a personal note there are so few polygamists out there I could care less unless they improvise cultist methods or include underage members.
Find one brother and sister who wants to marry you ignorant twit. LOL!!!

Isn't it cute that Dan thinks he is perfectly innocent when he excludes certain groups from enjoying marriage, but then calls everyone else a bigot for excluding homosexuals from the same?

[akpilot]

Dan wrote:

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Gotta go loser.
Unlike you I don't have all day to post in a forum as my only social interaction. I have friends. More than two and no doubt more than you.
BAH HAH HAH!!!

Dan always magically has somewhere to go when he is getting his a$$ handed to him.

[WasteWater]

I can hardly wait until Monday with SCOTUS upholds the lower court decision.

I can hear all the whiners now.

BaaaaWaaaaaaaaaa..........

[WasteWater]

Mike DiRucci wrote:

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Religion that produces harm is relevant in same sex and straight marriage too. Of course it should be discouraged in all marriages jackass.
Modern science has disproven any reproductive harm in incestuous relationships. What don't you understand about that? How many times must I repeat it dummy?
So your answer is yes. We should deny marriage based on how many people want it. What is your cutoff point? How many people need to be denied equality until they reach a number suitable to dopey Dan?
Thought you were going back to your active and cool social life. Why are you still here with loser Mike?
YUK!YUK!YUK!

Interesting stuff.

[Mike DiRucci]

akpilot wrote:

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Dan always magically has somewhere to go when he is getting his a$$ handed to him.

Yeah. His many interesting friends and exciting active lifestyle always tear him away. He suddenly doesn't need to be here like us losers.

In the summer he is suddenly going 'water skiing" or "boating" with many rich and influential friends. And always insisting no one else has any friends!

What a jackass!

Funny stuff!

[Mike DiRucci]

WasteWater wrote:

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Interesting stuff.

Hi toots.

Got that jackass Dan wound up real tight. He had to and leave suddenly though.

Too Funny!

[akpilot]

WasteWater wrote:

I can hardly wait until Monday with SCOTUS upholds the lower court decision.
I can hear all the whiners now.
BaaaaWaaaaaaaaaa..........

Monday? I thought it was a few weeks ago, then it was Friday??

What is the over/under in Vegas that the Court will actually make a call on Monday and not kick the can again?

You guys are like a Peanuts Comic- you are Charlie Brown and the SCOTUS is Lucy pulling the ball away at the last minute.

[Manuel]

Next time read the instruction on how to use a sex manuel

[jack rabbit swammi cowboy]

R Hudson wrote:

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4.‘Gay Marriage’ is founded on a false understanding of homosexuality.
California's ‘gay marriage’ decision was founded on a 1948 Court decision (Perez vs. Sharp) to strike down a state ban on interracial marriages. That means today’s Court tends to equate ethnicity with homosexuality. Bad reasoning. Unlike ethnicity, homosexuality is neither genetically-based nor immutable.
Same-sex attraction is a three-fold cord of nature, nurture, and culture, all bound together by one’s moral decisions. The fact is: many choose to change their homosexuality, and find peace and purpose in heterosexual relationships.‘Gay marriage’ advocates refuse that truth and insist that homosexuality is destiny, which is a false understanding.
5.‘Gay Marriage’ makes its opponents racists.
Based on #4, those who oppose gay marriage will be seen as bigots.‘Gay marriage’ validates as normal and good the problematic, complex condition of same-sex attraction; all who choose to view that attraction as a problem not a birthright will inevitably be accorded the same social shame and even legal consequences that racists incur.
6.‘Gay Marriage’ encourages and increases homosexual behavior.
Over the last 50 years, homosexual behavior has increased due to media advocacy, our culture of divorce, porn, and promiscuity, and the greater economic and emotional independence of women from men. Validating ‘gay marriage’ will further encourage men and women to explore homosexual unions.
Social shame used to inhibit homosexual experimentation; ‘gay marriage’ casts off the last restraint, and increases homosexual behavior in our society. Between 1995 and 2005, lesbian unions in the USA increased 7 times, while male unions doubled.
7.‘Gay Marriage’ opens the door to other types of ‘marriage.’
In changing the meaning of marriage to include infidelity and gender sameness,‘gay marriage’ sets a precedent for other types of units, like incest and polygamy. Legal cases involving polygamy now invoke the same legal precedents of gay rights advocates. What seemed unthinkable 10 years ago is now ‘gay marriage’ law. We flinch until we become sensitized, then we flinch no more.
8.‘Gay Marriage’ unleashes a global legal nightmare.
‘Gay marriage’ will clog the courts with myriad issues. Already, married gay couples are demanding marriage rights wherever they settle, regardless of the current laws of that state or nation. Not to mention the hundreds of cases in the USA alone concerning a host of bewildering issues, like gay divorce and ownership of artificially inseminated offspring.

Everything in your post past#4‘Gay Marriage’ is founded on a false understanding of homosexuality is interesting but unnecessary in debunking the scam.

[jack rabbit swammi cowboy]

Contract with who ever you choose but don't charge me with your co-copulator's bills.