Saucon teachers likely to strike Monday

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Talks between the Saucon Valley School District and the teachers union broke down late Thursday night, and a strike Monday appears imminent.
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#304
Sep 16, 2008
 
I believe you called "most" of the public stupid.
Not Again wrote:
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The stupid people don't pay my salary because I work in the private sector. Calling some members of the public stupid isn't any different than calling teachers cry babies.
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#305
Sep 16, 2008
 
Sample Headlines.........

"DAY CARE CLOSED - BABY SITTERS REFUSE PAY CUT IN FINAL YEAR OF PROPOSED CONTRACT."

"Ralph Puerta announces intent to run for State Senate, use of media durring 2008 contract dispute seen as big boost in name recognition."

"PROFESSIONAL SPORT SCOUTS REFUSE TO CROSS PICKET LINES, HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS DENIED MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACTS IN SAUCON VALLEY"

((lets face it, half of parents and students are more concerned about sports than classes))
angry saucon parent

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#306
Sep 16, 2008
 
Silly boy, most of the teachers live outside the district, so they can't raise enough support to fire the Board.

That comment shows your ignorance over how the democratic election process works, and is inflammatory.

If you want to fire the Board, then get all your teaching pals to move into Hellertown or Lower Saucon so they can pay the same inflated tax rate as the rest of us.

The district voters are solidly in support of the School Board.

Your reality will become crystal clear in about five weeks.

You will have a huge job ahead of you, to repair your credibility after all that nonsense. That's a shame, because there are some very good teachers who were dragged into this strike by the union bullies.
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I really dont think anyone cares about your opinion. Respect comes from the people who matter. Not yourself and the people bashing the union while not being aware of all details and facts. TEACHERS HOLD YOUR GROUND. FIRE THE BOARD! Amazing that the board can unprofessionally misrepresent the facts and figures while the only true negotiatin attempts are coming from the union. Apparent to the educated people and the press, is that the Board is clearing causing the strike. Especially, given the fact that the Board was already recommended to follow the recommendations of its consultants, and accept the union proposals.
angry saucon parent

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#307
Sep 16, 2008
 
ya forgot a few;

"Private school teachers agree to take SV teaching jobs for half the pay which is more than they now earn."

"SV teachers looking for work in private industry, but can't find a union."

"Private schools lower tuition rates for SV students transferring out of the district."
truck guy wrote:
Sample Headlines.........
"DAY CARE CLOSED - BABY SITTERS REFUSE PAY CUT IN FINAL YEAR OF PROPOSED CONTRACT."
"Ralph Puerta announces intent to run for State Senate, use of media durring 2008 contract dispute seen as big boost in name recognition."
"PROFESSIONAL SPORT SCOUTS REFUSE TO CROSS PICKET LINES, HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS DENIED MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACTS IN SAUCON VALLEY"
((lets face it, half of parents and students are more concerned about sports than classes))
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#308
Sep 16, 2008
 
WOW... I would be ashamed to show my face if I made that kind of money with summers off and had the nerve to say "Give me more!"
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#309
Sep 16, 2008
 
WOW... I would be ashamed to show my face if I made that kind of money with summers off and had the nerve to say "Give me more!"
angry saucon parent

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#310
Sep 16, 2008
 
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For heavens sake. SVEA is not the Teamsters. It's a small union of teachers, led by teachers--all with the same stake! They are unified...
...just repeating what I've heard from my friends who are teachers and don't want to belong to the teachers union
DOB

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Sep 17, 2008
 
angry saucon parent wrote:
Silly boy, most of the teachers live outside the district, so they can't raise enough support to fire the Board.
That comment shows your ignorance over how the democratic election process works, and is inflammatory.
If you want to fire the Board, then get all your teaching pals to move into Hellertown or Lower Saucon so they can pay the same inflated tax rate as the rest of us.
The district voters are solidly in support of the School Board.
Your reality will become crystal clear in about five weeks.
You will have a huge job ahead of you, to repair your credibility after all that nonsense. That's a shame, because there are some very good teachers who were dragged into this strike by the union bullies.
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Do not denigrate teachers as if they do not have a mind of their own. To do so shows your lack of knowledge regarding this process. Shows how you nare NOT in sync w/ the teachers. We do not see our union as being led by bullies. You might want to look in the mirror to see a bully. Not everyone is close-minded; instead, each day. svSV citizens are seeing that there is misrepresentation and a reason to lisgten to BOTH sides. BOTH sides need vto compromise. To deny that is counterproductive...
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#312
Sep 17, 2008
 
All of the figures have been skewed as much as they ever will be.
All of the negotiating is done.
The offer is there. Accept it or move on.

It does not matter how many times you ask.
It does not matter how many times you demand.
It does not matter if you take your ball and go home.
It does not matter how long you walk the picket line.
The answer is still, NO. No more.
Accept the offer or move on.

The respect has already been lost.
For everyday that you remain on the picket line, the animosity will build.
Accept the offer or move on.

The Board is acting as charged by the community.
The community is saying NO MORE.
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Do not denigrate teachers as if they do not have a mind of their own. To do so shows your lack of knowledge regarding this process. Shows how you nare NOT in sync w/ the teachers. We do not see our union as being led by bullies. You might want to look in the mirror to see a bully. Not everyone is close-minded; instead, each day. svSV citizens are seeing that there is misrepresentation and a reason to lisgten to BOTH sides. BOTH sides need vto compromise. To deny that is counterproductive...
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#313
Sep 17, 2008
 
Once again you make the case for unions. You complain about your plight at the same time you condemn the union. Maybe you shouldn't have to accept less than a 2% raise and huge increases in insurance premium shares. You have been brainwashed. While the ceo's and upper management walk away with huge pay increases, we, the middle class suffer. Why are these companies that are failing and being bailed out by the government with your tax dollars, and still paying their ceo's under much more scrutiny than teachers making 50 t 60k a year. It is absurd that we fight with each other while these people get rich and take taxpayer bailouts and run. I'm sorry but wake up! Direct your hostility to the real villains! Believe me it is not the teachers in this community!
angry saucon parent wrote:
Union activities/strikes lead to continuous and progressive inflation.
There is widespread thought that unions have outlived their public utility in America.
Back in the old days, when REAL abuse was rampant among employers, especially blue collar, unions were a necessity. Is there abuse of teachers at SVSD? If there is, then the solution is to replace the administration starting with the leadership.
The only purpose unions serve today, is to CREATE the belief that the employer is greedy and cares nothing about it's workers. Is that the case at SVSD? If that's so, then the solution is to replace the school board starting with the leadership.
This union, by its' very existence, has created discontent between the community and teachers that wouldn't have existed otherwise.
The students lose their education for what, up to 5 1/2 weeks. What do you brilliant union leaders suggest they do in the meantime while their parents have to work?
The student athletes, band members, cheerleaders, et al, lose, because the fall season will be all but over at the time they go back to school. I hope you union leaders can look these students in the eye and honestly tell them that their sacrifice was worth it for your $25/week.
The taxpayers lose to higher taxes. No matter what happens, our taxes will go up. So business owners will simply raise their prices and it comes right back to you all.
The teachers really lose, after all, the difference in percentages between the sides comes out to about $25/week for someone making $60k.
Don't your union fees go up proportionately with your increase in pay? So this benefits the union treasury as well. Funny how that works.
Changing my earlier assessment about this, the union loses by bullying the school board and further deteriorating what credibility they may have had left.
The community loses because of the rift caused by this unnecessary strike action condoned by union leadership - most of which DO NOT LIVE in this community.
I offer my support in this blog for the anti- strike protest today at the school.
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#314
Sep 17, 2008
 
So...you pretty much have nothing else to do. You are so desperate it is ridiculous. I can't wait until you lose!
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All of the figures have been skewed as much as they ever will be.
All of the negotiating is done.
The offer is there. Accept it or move on.
It does not matter how many times you ask.
It does not matter how many times you demand.
It does not matter if you take your ball and go home.
It does not matter how long you walk the picket line.
The answer is still, NO. No more.
Accept the offer or move on.
The respect has already been lost.
For everyday that you remain on the picket line, the animosity will build.
Accept the offer or move on.
The Board is acting as charged by the community.
The community is saying NO MORE.
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#315
Sep 17, 2008
 
Emmy, you are going to get your wife in trouble with the union rep and the administration. Better go night night.
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So...you pretty much have nothing else to do. You are so desperate it is ridiculous. I can't wait until you lose!
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saucon taxpaying parent

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Sep 18, 2008
 
DOB wrote:
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Do not denigrate teachers as if they do not have a mind of their own. To do so shows your lack of knowledge regarding this process. Shows how you nare NOT in sync w/ the teachers. We do not see our union as being led by bullies. You might want to look in the mirror to see a bully. Not everyone is close-minded; instead, each day. svSV citizens are seeing that there is misrepresentation and a reason to lisgten to BOTH sides. BOTH sides need vto compromise. To deny that is counterproductive...
go back and read my posts, and you will learn that's what I've been advocating all along.. your rose colored glasses are so fogged up, you can't see through your own spin..

SVSD parents that I know are all firmly in favor of the school board's actions and very upset with the teacher's unions' actions
saucon taxpaying parent

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#317
Sep 18, 2008
 
I've been stating all along that the union is the culprit, the teachers and the students are the pawns, and the SV taxpayers are going to be forced to pay the bill at the end of the day.

My previous post was intended to point out the fact that no-one wins in this drama.

You completely mis-understood it.
Anonymous wrote:
Once again you make the case for unions. You complain about your plight at the same time you condemn the union. Maybe you shouldn't have to accept less than a 2% raise and huge increases in insurance premium shares. You have been brainwashed. While the ceo's and upper management walk away with huge pay increases, we, the middle class suffer. Why are these companies that are failing and being bailed out by the government with your tax dollars, and still paying their ceo's under much more scrutiny than teachers making 50 t 60k a year. It is absurd that we fight with each other while these people get rich and take taxpayer bailouts and run. I'm sorry but wake up! Direct your hostility to the real villains! Believe me it is not the teachers in this community!
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#318
Sep 18, 2008
 
The teachers are not pawns.
They voted to authorize a strike.
This strike is their choice.
saucon taxpaying parent wrote:
I've been stating all along that the union is the culprit, the teachers and the students are the pawns, and the SV taxpayers are going to be forced to pay the bill at the end of the day.
My previous post was intended to point out the fact that no-one wins in this drama.
You completely mis-understood it.
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#319
Sep 18, 2008
 
OFF THE STREETS & IN THE CLASSROOMS! What freakin cry babies. If you don't like the board is offering, go work at Burger King!!
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#320
Sep 18, 2008
 
Saucon Valley Teachers are the highest paid teachers in Northampton County.
These are the figures for 2006-2007.
Add the raises they got last year to figure their 2007-2008 (last year’s) salaries.

Then look at what they are demanding now.

http://php.app.com/PAteachers0607/results.php...

Have we fairly compensated our teachers? We pay our teachers better than any other school district in Northampton County. If we take our current list of teachers and pay them according to the 2008-09 salary schedule of any other school district in the county, they would receive less. If they accept our salary proposal they will remain the highest paid teachers in the county.
saucon taxpaying parent

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#321
Sep 20, 2008
 
Anonymous wrote:
The teachers are not pawns.
They voted to authorize a strike.
This strike is their choice.
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The teachers who didn't want to strike are pawns, because they sit in the minority of the union.. I doubt that their strike vote was unanimous.
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#322
Sep 21, 2008
 
STOP THE EXTORTION

Stop Teacher Strikes in Pennsylvania

http://www.stopteacherstrikes.org/

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