Celebrate Greek Independence Day

There are 2 comments on the Tampa Bay Newspapers story from Mar 20, 2014, titled Celebrate Greek Independence Day. In it, Tampa Bay Newspapers reports that:

In a city known for its history, Tarpon Springs will once again go back to its roots to celebrate Greek Independence Day, the 193rd anniversary of Greece's independence from rule by the Ottoman Empire.

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XAC

Vancouver, Canada

#1 Mar 21, 2014
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Turkey: Reparations for Slavery under Ottoman Rule?

Like the descendants of enslaved people in the United States, should a proposal for the reparations for slavery be provided to ALL NATIONS which suffered under Ottoman rule?

Whereby some type of compensation could be proposed in a variety of forms, from individual monetary payments to land-based compensation schemes related to independence.

The Ottoman Empire was an empire which lasted 623 years, from 27 July 1299 to 1 November 1922, when the monarchy was abolished.

Slavery in the Ottoman Empire: 1460's - 1908 = 448 years of tyranny

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_O...

vs.

Slavery in the United States: 1620 - 1865 = 245 years of tyranny

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_U...

"It is said that Sultan Mehmed II established the first slave market in Constantinople in the 1460s and as late as 1908, female slaves were still sold in the Ottoman Empire."

The German state no longer has ties to the former Nazi Party and yet, Germany to this day is still paying Israel and various Jewish based lobby groups for crimes perpetrated against the Jewish people during WWII by a regime which was dissolved in the last century. I was surprised to discover the following:

Germany is still paying off £50million of the 'reparations' demanded from it after the end of First World War.

The German Finance Agency, its authority on debt management, said tens of millions of euros are still being transferred to private individuals holding debenture bonds as agreed under the Treaty of Versailles signed on June 28, 1919."

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The Treaty of Lausanne (July 24, 1923) was a peace treaty signed in Lausanne, Switzerland, that settled the Anatolian and East Thracian parts of the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire by annulment of the Treaty of Sèvres (1920) that was signed by the Istanbul-based Ottoman government; as the consequence of the Turkish War of Independence between the Allies of World War I and the Ankara-based Grand National Assembly of Turkey (Turkish national movement) led by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. The treaty also led to the international recognition of the sovereignty of the new Republic of Turkey as the successor state of the defunct Ottoman Empire.[15]

*** Succession of states is a theory and practice in international relations regarding the recognition and acceptance of a newly created sovereign state by other states, based on a perceived historical relationship the new state has with a prior state. The theory has its root in 19th century diplomacy.***

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_of_st...

Italy agreed to pay reparations of about $105 million to Greece, while Germany may not consider war reparations to Greece an issue anymore

Comment: I believe in the near future, we'll be seeing a trend of alliances forming to collectively deal with this matter, during which countries which have been suppressed under Ottoman tyranny ... will cooperate in joint action, each in their own self-interest, joining forces together for a common cause.
XAC

Vancouver, Canada

#2 Mar 21, 2014
List of Countries who have suffered slavery under Ottoman tyranny:

Egypt, Greece, Bulgaria, Cyprus, North Cyprus, Romania, Moldova, Kosovo, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Sudan, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Oman, Yemen, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia, Austria, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Italy and Iran.

Armenian Genocide reparations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocid...

"... Indigenous groups such as the Choctaw, Lakota, and Lambuth people have received reparations (and rightly so) for treaty violations that occurred before the emancipation of African Americans. Japanese Americans have received reparations for their inhumane incarceration in internment camps during WWII, as well as the Jews who received reparations after the Nuremberg trials.

Slavery and the slave trade are recognized by international human rights organizations, e.g., the United Nations, as crimes against humanity and as such there are no statutes of limitations against nations who are to pay for these crimes. "

The subject of who is accountable for these reparations today and whether or not governments like Turkey are responsible for the crimes against humanity committed by their predecessors centuries ago must be attended to and given serious consideration. The issue is a legal one and may be dragged through bilateral negotiations in the coming years. This is an issue of International Law and won't be solved by the ICJ (International Court of Justice) alone.

Some argue the verdict ruled by the international court ruled on 3 Feb 2012 that Germany cannot be held liable for paying reparations to the descendants of victims of a massacre perpetrated during World War II in Italy. The verdict has implications far beyond Nazi-era war crimes, and was welcomed by countries far and wide.

There are far too many grey areas that need to be addressed, for example does the ICJ ruling close the door to victims of war crimes including slavery? Has the ruling become somewhat of a silent victory for the perpetrators of war crimes and the criminals who have escaped conviction or legal punishment? Will this ruling give a false sense of victory to these criminals, and perhaps enable them to commit crimes again?

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