Scientologists give Clearwater dates for Flag Building dedication, other events

Nov 4, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: St. Petersburg Times

The Church of Scientology notified city officials Monday of plans to dedicate its new Flag Building on Nov. 17 in a private event the church says will draw 10,000 Scientologists to downtown Clearwater.

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Ali Shaw

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That means hope for all that we make a new civilization base on trust and dignity. To bring peace and help each other to make a better world for all.

“I am AKA Polly ”

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Ali Shaw wrote:
That means hope for all that we make a new civilization base on trust and dignity.
Orly?

"In any event, any person from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale should not have, in any thinking society, any civil rights of any kind, because by abusing those rights he brings into being arduous and strenuous laws which are oppressive to those who need no such restraints."

- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, 1989 Ed., p. 145 [The "Tone Scale" is Scientology’s measure of mental and spiritual health.]
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To bring peace and help each other to make a better world for all.
"There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale, neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the Tone Scale by un-enturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid processes. The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow."

- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 170



"The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the Tone Scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered."

- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 170
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Gold Mask,

Do you understand any those things that you were posting or were you just copying and pasting things that you thought would illustrate your point? What is your point by the way; you never actually said.

“I am AKA Polly ”

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Rayne wrote:
Gold Mask,
Do you understand any those things that you were posting
I certainly do. In essence, scientology seeks to command who has "civil rights" based on its seriously insane doctrines. The primary gfoal of scientology is to take over all facets of society and become the harbingers of all things.
Google is your friend if you are interested in the real actualities of scientology
Rayne wrote:
or were you just copying and pasting things that you thought would illustrate your point?
My point was illustrated rather succinctly.
Scientology wants to 'clear the planet', not unlike Hitler wanted to usher in Uber Mensh. The scientology equivalent is called 'homo novis'
Rayne wrote:
What is your point by the way; you never actually said.
Scioentology is a lying criminal enterprise that has cloaked itself as a religion.

Largest infiltration into government offices on local U.S soil in all its history was perpetrated by?
http://www.xenu.net/archive/go/ops/go732/go73...
No other considerations are afforded by the IRS except which religion?
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/essays/irs.h...
Which religion has specific doctrine to take over the world?
http://johanw.home.xs4all.nl/CoS/targets-defe...
Which religion arrived in Clearwater and did so with great deception and wanted to take it over?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Normandy

Would you leik moar?

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You seem to be getting all your information from anti Scientology websites. I doubt that anyone connected with any of those sights has ever so much as stuck their head inside a Scientology church. They are just passing on what they have heard and presenting it to the public as facts. I think you have a poor understanding of what it means to be “clear.”
During Diantetic auditing the auditor asks the person receiving the auditing specific questions to help them uncover past incidents in their life when they experienced incidents of physical or emotional pain. Than with the auditors help the person will recount the incident enough time that it will relive the emotional charge connected with the incident. The end result is the person is happier in general and more able to go about life without being weighed down by the negative feelings tied to their past memoires. Scientology auditing does this but in a different way that is a good deal faster.
A simple explanation of a “clear” is someone who has gone through enough auditing that he is completely free of the effects of painful past events. Clears are happier, healthier, and more able to succeed at life, they are completely free of mental and psychosomatic illness, and are in general much more intelligent than your average person.
Also Dianetic auditing is completely non-religious in nature and Dianetic and Scientology auditing works on anyone whether they call themselves Scientologist or not. Lots of people from other religions or no religion make use of Scientology services worldwide on a regular basis.
So when Scientologist says they want to clear the planet what they mean is they want to make a world full of healthy happy people. A world where things like crime, poverty, war, and mental illness is a thing of the past and that is a very good thing.

“I am AKA Polly ”

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Rayne01 wrote:
You seem to be getting all your information from anti Scientology websites.
I'd say you wouldn't even know that.

FACT- Scientology convicted for breaking into 100's of U.S government offices that had 11 top level scientologists sent to federal prison after FBI raids in 1977
FACT- One of which was Mary Sue Hubbard, wife of LRH who himself was convicted as a co-conspirator
FACT- The I.R.S gives consideration to scientology that are not given to any other U.S religion
Rayne01 wrote:
I doubt that anyone connected with any of those sights has ever so much as stuck their head inside a Scientology church.
Oh of course you'd say that. That's scientology party-line non-anser
Rayne01 wrote:
They are just passing on what they have heard and presenting it to the public as facts. I think you have a poor understanding of what it means to be “clear.”
The court records speak for themselves. No 'third party' there
Rayne01 wrote:
<snipped non-sequitor>
Dianetics is proven to be a failure the one and only time Hubbard allowed scientific testing
http://www.lermanet.com/creed-pearson/dianeti...

Scientology was spawned from dianetics strictly for taxation purposes and the 'religion angle'. Maybe you should avail yourself of LRH's PAB about "Why Dr of Divinity"
http://www.carolineletkeman.org/archives/200
Whilst youre at it, read Helen O'brien's account of dianetics. She should know, as she was there. Were you?
http://www.xenu.net/archive/books/dil/Dianeti...
Rayne01 wrote:
Lots of people from other religions or no religion make use of Scientology services worldwide on a regular basis.
Why does LRH say all other religions are part of R6 implants?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_%28Scie...
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So when Scientologist says they want to clear the planet what they mean is they want to make a world full of healthy happy people.
Making 'the able more able' means nothing is for free.I'd say you are new to scientology and know next to nothing other than third party
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A world where things like crime, poverty, war, and mental illness is a thing of the past and that is a very good thing.
If that is the case, then why would an OT VII blow his ex business partners brains out after his ex patner found out about the funneling of monies to scientology?
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/rex-fowl...

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I say that you get all your information from anti Scientology websites because all the links you post to back up your claims are clearly written by people with a bone to pick with Scientology. There is a lot of misinterpretations and more than a little outright lies about what Scientologists do and believe on those sights and they get passed around from sight to sight and people get upset because they think these outlandish claims are true.

I will say that I understand why you feel so threatened by Scientology and I don’t mean to belittle you or make your paranoia worse and I don’t expect to be able to reason with you. I only post in places like this because many people post and read on forums like this and a lot of people who post about Scientology don’t have any true data. Some have been misled, some are willfully ignorant, and others are just downright malicious. So when I can I try to get the real data out there so that those who are not in the tinfoil hat, living in their mom’s basement crowd who read these forums can get a real look at what Scientology is all about.

The only thing that I will say to you Gold Mask is to not worry about it. Scientologist have more important things to do then to try to convert someone who is so set against it. No one is going to come bother you so you should just forget about them, I think you would be a lot happier if you did.

“I am AKA Polly ”

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You really have no idea what you are rabbiting on about. Scientology granted you such beingness in your pretended knowingness.

Carry on.
More and more people every day see behind the veil scientology tries to hide behind. More people every day see that scientology is an abomination upon society.

“Slick | Just Bill”

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Hey! A Scientologist! We thought you'd all gone.

Guess what? I was in Scientology for more than 30 years. I once believed as you do. I am a "IAS Patron", a "Cornerstone Member", I went as a "Volunteer Minister" to actual disaster sites and saw what was done. I am an OT V, trained auditor and was in the Sea Org for over ten years.

I have known and talked to more Scientologists and ex-Scientologists than you will ever know. I have read all the pro-Scientology stuff and anti-Scientology stuff - something you are forbidden from doing.

Gold Mask knows a LOT more than you do about Scientology. Gold Mask has access to the truth which you are not allowed to see or know.

I know you are a good person who thinks he is doing good - but you are not allowed to know things you really should know. Someday you will.

Bill

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Rayne01 wrote:
... tinfoil hat...
Let's see... Who here is wearing the tinfoil hat?

Who thinks they world is populated by evil "Suppressive Persons" who are out to "destroy Scientology"? Who thinks that they must "disconnect" from all the "SPs" or all their Scientology "gains" will be erased? Who is absolutely convinced there is a "Galactic Conspiracy" against Scientology led by the "Evil Psychiatrists"? Who here thinks that ANY slightest criticism of Scientology means you are part of the Galactic Conspiracy????

Hmmm?

Tinfoil hat getting a bit tight on you?

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Rayne01 wrote:
A simple explanation of a “clear” is someone who has gone through enough auditing that he is completely free of the effects of painful past events. Clears are happier, healthier, and more able to succeed at life, they are completely free of mental and psychosomatic illness, and are in general much more intelligent than your average person.
Gee, no. The REAL definition of a "Clear" is a person who has "erased his or her 'Reactive Mind'."

Now, explain how no one has EVER provided ANY evidence at all that such a thing really exists.

Scientology is really priceless, helping you "erase" something that doesn't exist! And charging you a LOT of money to do so!

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Is that an actual handler clam I see that? I thought we drove them to extinction years ago on here.

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Rayne01 wrote:
You seem to be getting all your information from anti Scientology websites.
And you seem to be getting all your information from Scientology itself, the one source with the greatest incentive to mislead you.
Rayne01 wrote:
I doubt that anyone connected with any of those sights has ever so much as stuck their head inside a Scientology church.They are just passing on what they have heard and presenting it to the public as facts.
How about Mike Rinder? He spent years as the head of OSA and the top Scientology spokesmen, working directly with David Miscavige at the highest levels of Scientology. Now he likes to crash Dave's parties in helicopters.

http://www.scientology-cult.com/karen-de-la-c...

Rinder is of course only one of many. High level defectors are a dime a dozen these days.
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I think you have a poor understanding of what it means to be “clear.”
There are no Clears as Hubbard described them, much less OT's. Clear cognition: "I mocked up my reactive mind."
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Scientology is a scam from a third rate science fiction author. Their little minnions in their matching outfits have helped ruin Clearwater. What church requires thousands of $ for their services? Guess it goes to all the homeless they assist, right? Oh, Travolta, Cruise, Alley, et. al., just a bunch of star fuxkers. Leah Remini got out when her kid mattered more that the kool-aide you readily consume.

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