Shingle Springs Band of Miwok sue to ...

Shingle Springs Band of Miwok sue to protect name

There are 17 comments on the Sacramento Bee Newspaper story from Jan 3, 2009, titled Shingle Springs Band of Miwok sue to protect name. In it, Sacramento Bee Newspaper reports that:

Cesar Caballero has been a thorn in the side of the Shingle Springs Band of Miwok Indians for several years.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Sacramento Bee Newspaper.

ionebandmiwok

Plymouth, CA

#1 Jan 4, 2009
What is this, Exhibit A for the defendents in this case? Fonseca brags that he comes along in 1997, goes to work for Shingle Springs, money suddenly shows up from the midwest and wah,lah, Fonseca becomes the tribal leader, not just a tribal member. How does one become the tribal leader and have absolutely no history with the tribe? The Answer: The Pacific Regional Office of the BIA and their pattern and practices of placement of Sacramento based individuals claiming to be Miwok in yet another very small tribal government, mix in big money from the midwest and you have a brand new tribe [casino] controlled by the BIA!

Why would Fonseca and his supporters open themselves for challenge as to their legitimacy by anyone who wishes to make the challenge, including, but not limited to Caballero! Where is the community on this? Why does it not matter to anyone in the Shingle Springs community?

What happened to Jim Adams and the former SLhingle Springs tribal leaders?
Married to a Miwok

United States

#2 Jan 30, 2009
My husbands family lived on the land that was taken for the freeway in the 60's. Yet, they are denied membership in the Shingle Springs tribe. The true Miwoks of El Dorado County are not recognized because of the way the BIA misled elderly and ill Miwoks many years ago.
toknndn

Sacramento, CA

#3 Feb 11, 2009
Hello Married to a Miwok,
Interested in your story, as it parallels ours. We to are seeking recognition as the "TRUE Shingle Springs Band of Miwok Indians". Please e-mail me @ [email protected] to discuss and share stories. Possibly Family!!
Pirate Suzy Q

Walnut Grove, CA

#4 Feb 12, 2009
I want to know what happened to Jim Adams and the former SLhingle Springs tribal leaders, too?
Sac Native

Sacramento, CA

#5 Mar 9, 2009
toknndn,

You're part of that group run by Jeri Scambler, aren't you?

Take a look at the records, Miwok families assigned to the El Dorado Rancheria were from El Dorado and Nashville not Shingle Springs. Families assigned to Shingle Springs Rancheria were from Verona and Sacramento.

While anthros say Nisenan are Maidu our Miwok elders tell us they are Miwok. We are all relations.
ATRJNLJKH

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Mar 18, 2009
hi u S T I N K!!!!!!!!!!
ATRJNLJKH

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Mar 18, 2009
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FBJGJHKJL

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Mar 18, 2009
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Doris Blackwell Carbajal

United States

#9 Sep 1, 2009
I'am Cesar Caballero's aunt, I'm hoping this all gets settled before long. The Verona Band has taken our identity and BIA is doing nothing even-though the proof is in their offices, from years back. We exist and aren't going away unless taken by the great spirit. Money can buy anyone, especially our government. It is sad that Indian's who have gotten in with their tribe's, dis-enroll their own. Greed was never our way of life. What happened???? Your ancestors are probably stirring in their grave. Keep it up nephew.
boohoo

Lincoln, CA

#10 May 5, 2010
OMG you guys just want money that comes along with the casino... My family is the Murrays and live on the res out there and are part of that tribe... If you dont know what you are talking about, DONT SAY ANYTHING.. get over it,,,
The Truth

United States

#11 Nov 24, 2010
Cesar is a lowlife that doesn't deserve your respect. He won't take care of his kids and they go hungry. He is only out for money he has no claim to.
more than my neck

Fair Oaks, CA

#12 Nov 24, 2010
boohoo wrote:
OMG you guys just want money that comes along with the casino... My family is the Murrays and live on the res out there and are part of that tribe... If you dont know what you are talking about, DONT SAY ANYTHING.. get over it,,,
You are not the one being cheated and so you just say"get over it".You really are a dumb squaw.
Real Miwok Tribe

Ridgecrest, CA

#13 Nov 25, 2010
I'm sure you one's that are in, would say that we only want money, we want our true heritage. You sound like the greedy indians, you need to look at history.
more than my neck

Fair Oaks, CA

#14 Nov 26, 2010
Doris Blackwell Carbajal wrote:
I'am Cesar Caballero's aunt, I'm hoping this all gets settled before long. The Verona Band has taken our identity and BIA is doing nothing even-though the proof is in their offices, from years back. We exist and aren't going away unless taken by the great spirit. Money can buy anyone, especially our government. It is sad that Indian's who have gotten in with their tribe's, dis-enroll their own. Greed was never our way of life. What happened???? Your ancestors are probably stirring in their grave. Keep it up nephew.
Now you know what the BIA is all about.We need to get down there in numbers too large for them to ignore
the truth

Rohnert Park, CA

#15 Jan 16, 2011
If you want know the true heritage of the members of the Shingle Springs tribe, check the National Archives. The tribe is based from a 1916 census of Indians in the Sacramento valley. At the time, the BIA included Hawaiian immigrants in these censuses, and let them apply for Indian status even through they were not native indians from California. The people on the 1916 census were Hawaiians, not Miwok or Maidu as they claim. Some of the original members were Naturalized as US citizens.
Mountme

United States

#16 Jan 26, 2011
Funny how most people wouldn't even want to be a lowlife Miwok if it wasn't for the casino.Watching these scum bags all scrambling for a handout cracks me up.Why don't you all just get a job?
True

El Dorado Hills, CA

#17 Jun 9, 2012
the truth wrote:
If you want know the true heritage of the members of the Shingle Springs tribe, check the National Archives. The tribe is based from a 1916 census of Indians in the Sacramento valley. At the time, the BIA included Hawaiian immigrants in these censuses, and let them apply for Indian status even through they were not native indians from California. The people on the 1916 census were Hawaiians, not Miwok or Maidu as they claim. Some of the original members were Naturalized as US citizens.
The Hawaiians that John Sutter brought to California escaped servitude from the Gold Rush era and intermarried INTO native Americans. Those those who have Hawaiian decent still practice their ways within the tribe. Those who have had children back then by heredity are tribal members. Just as there are African American looking or darkskinned looking people married and had children within the tribe. Just as any white person who marries into a tribe, or a white person marries into a spanish family, those children carry the heritage.

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