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#227 Sep 19, 2013
tit for tat wrote:
<quoted text>yes smartness..there is no such law in ky that requires wearing a helmet!!!
Yes smartass, there IS a law in Kentucky requiring a helmet.......

Helmets
Motorcycle Riders
According to the Kentucky motorcycle manual, all motorcycle riders under the age of 21 must wear helmets. You can find more specifics about this law, as well as the requirement for all motorcycle riders to wear protective eye gear, in KRS 189.285.

ATV Riders
KRS 189.515 makes it clear that ATV riders must wear approved protective headgear, i.e. helmets, unless they're:

Riding on private property.Using the ATV for farming, agricultural, mining, or logging purposes.Using the ATV for any other industrial, commercial, or business purpose.Bicycle Riders
Ghost Rider

Paintsville, KY

#228 Sep 19, 2013
tit for tat wrote:
<quoted text>yes smartness..there is no such law in ky that requires wearing a helmet!!!
http://www.bikersrights.com/states/kentucky/k...

Title XVI. Motor Vehicles. Chapter 189. Traffic Regulations; Vehicle Equipment and Storage. Section 189.285 Regulations for Operating and Riding On Motorcycles.:

...(3) The following persons shall be required to wear protective headgear, in the manner prescribed by the secretary of the Transportation Cabinet, at all times the motorcycles they are riding are in motion on a public highway:

(a) A person under the age of twenty-one (21) years who is operating a motorcycle or who is a passenger on a motorcycle or in a sidecar attachment;
(b) A person who possesses a motorcycle instruction permit and who is operating a motorcycle;
(c) A person who has held a valid motorcycle operator's license, or combination motor vehicle-motorcycle operator's license, for less than one (1) year and who is operating a motorcycle;
Ghost Rider

Paintsville, KY

#229 Sep 19, 2013
mea wrote:
<quoted text>exactly, and for the other smarty its not law one wears a helmet. all that is irrelevant. she was drunk. and not on her side of the road.
http://www.bikersrights.com/states/kentucky/k...

Title XVI. Motor Vehicles. Chapter 189. Traffic Regulations; Vehicle Equipment and Storage. Section 189.285 Regulations for Operating and Riding On Motorcycles.:

...(3) The following persons shall be required to wear protective headgear, in the manner prescribed by the secretary of the Transportation Cabinet, at all times the motorcycles they are riding are in motion on a public highway:

(a) A person under the age of twenty-one (21) years who is operating a motorcycle or who is a passenger on a motorcycle or in a sidecar attachment;
(b) A person who possesses a motorcycle instruction permit and who is operating a motorcycle;
(c) A person who has held a valid motorcycle operator's license, or combination motor vehicle-motorcycle operator's license, for less than one (1) year and who is operating a motorcycle; and

Since: Oct 10

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#230 Sep 19, 2013
Ghost Rider wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.bikersrights.com/states/kentucky/k...
Title XVI. Motor Vehicles. Chapter 189. Traffic Regulations; Vehicle Equipment and Storage. Section 189.285 Regulations for Operating and Riding On Motorcycles.:
...(3) The following persons shall be required to wear protective headgear, in the manner prescribed by the secretary of the Transportation Cabinet, at all times the motorcycles they are riding are in motion on a public highway:
(a) A person under the age of twenty-one (21) years who is operating a motorcycle or who is a passenger on a motorcycle or in a sidecar attachment;
(b) A person who possesses a motorcycle instruction permit and who is operating a motorcycle;
(c) A person who has held a valid motorcycle operator's license, or combination motor vehicle-motorcycle operator's license, for less than one (1) year and who is operating a motorcycle; and
Makes one wonder why the sheriff's deputy at the funeral allowed in the neighborhood of 100 ATV's and bikes to go from the church to the cemetery(approx. 1.5 miles on US highways), without the wearing of helmets. I did count 15 helmets in the video. Could have been up to 25, but no more. This should never have been permitted under any circumstance. Next time someone gets stopped for not wearing a helmet by the sheriff's department, maybe the person getting the ticket should show this video to the judge.
agree

Louisa, KY

#231 Sep 23, 2013
mea wrote:
<quoted text>exactly, and for the other smarty its not law one wears a helmet. all that is irrelevant. she was drunk. and not on her side of the road.
He shouldn't had to worry about avoiding her because she was in the wrong lane not him and if your not able to drive then by all means just stay home!
for real

Betsy Layne, KY

#232 Sep 23, 2013
One Mans Opinon wrote:
<quoted text>
Makes one wonder why the sheriff's deputy at the funeral allowed in the neighborhood of 100 ATV's and bikes to go from the church to the cemetery(approx. 1.5 miles on US highways), without the wearing of helmets. I did count 15 helmets in the video. Could have been up to 25, but no more. This should never have been permitted under any circumstance. Next time someone gets stopped for not wearing a helmet by the sheriff's department, maybe the person getting the ticket should show this video to the judge.
The road from the church to the cemetery was blocked and not much different than a parade. It didn't take 15 min if that for these kids to get to the cemetery to pay respect for their lost friend. My son was among them and he cried for two days after the funeral. Now tell me you want to critize these kids again??? My son now is more respectful for the speed of his bike and he will wear a helmet because in his own words. "You got nothing but drunks and druggies coming at you anymore". So if anything good has come from this drunk woman in the wrong lane that killed a good boy this is it.

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#233 Sep 23, 2013
for real wrote:
<quoted text>
The road from the church to the cemetery was blocked and not much different than a parade. It didn't take 15 min if that for these kids to get to the cemetery to pay respect for their lost friend. My son was among them and he cried for two days after the funeral. Now tell me you want to critize these kids again??? My son now is more respectful for the speed of his bike and he will wear a helmet because in his own words. "You got nothing but drunks and druggies coming at you anymore". So if anything good has come from this drunk woman in the wrong lane that killed a good boy this is it.
I understand where you're coming from, but I also seen adults on bikes and ATV's. What you're asking for is to have the law circumvented to suit this occasion. That simply isn't right, and it shouldn't apply. Tell me why they shouldn't wear helmet's other than they simply didn't want to. I have seen other posts referring to these people as "Rednecks", and this is one of the reasons why. They think they are above the laws of the land. Parade conditions, or not, they traveled on state highways. Chances are if I waited until 2 o'clock in the morning I too would be able to make that same drive without even seeing a vehicle, but that doesn't make it right. The law says wear a helmet, and I seriously doubt the law is to be circumvented just for just for this occasion. I am glad your son learned from this terrible tragedy, and I hope other young people learn from it as well, but the law is the law.
Muddy

Salyersville, KY

#234 Sep 23, 2013
Bottom line is this....drunk in the wrong lane caused the accident. If the low life drunk would've been sober and in her own lane he'd be alive today. I really don't give a flying shit about anything other than the fact that a grown woman drove drunk and entered into oncoming traffic and took an innocent life no matter what was or wasn't on his head or how fast he was going. Everything else is irrelevant! The blame lies on her solely because of her own shitty choices. It should've been her since she chose to drive impaired!
Mayor

Printer, KY

#235 Sep 23, 2013
One Mans Opinon wrote:
<quoted text>I understand where you're coming from, but I also seen adults on bikes and ATV's. What you're asking for is to have the law circumvented to suit this occasion. That simply isn't right, and it shouldn't apply. Tell me why they shouldn't wear helmet's other than they simply didn't want to. I have seen other posts referring to these people as "Rednecks", and this is one of the reasons why. They think they are above the laws of the land. Parade conditions, or not, they traveled on state highways. Chances are if I waited until 2 o'clock in the morning I too would be able to make that same drive without even seeing a vehicle, but that doesn't make it right. The law says wear a helmet, and I seriously doubt the law is to be circumvented just for just for this occasion. I am glad your son learned from this terrible tragedy, and I hope other young people learn from it as well, but the law is the law.
The Kentucky helmet law has guidelines and restrictions to enforce helmet laws per age , experience and occasion per vehicle ridden
yep

Betsy Layne, KY

#236 Sep 23, 2013
Muddy wrote:
Bottom line is this....drunk in the wrong lane caused the accident. If the low life drunk would've been sober and in her own lane he'd be alive today. I really don't give a flying shit about anything other than the fact that a grown woman drove drunk and entered into oncoming traffic and took an innocent life no matter what was or wasn't on his head or how fast he was going. Everything else is irrelevant! The blame lies on her solely because of her own shitty choices. It should've been her since she chose to drive impaired!
She was totally blitzed out of her mind drunk and blood test proved it. If I was cjs family I would already have a big time lawyer like her family got and sue the hell out of them in a civil suit.
Ghost Rider

Paintsville, KY

#237 Sep 24, 2013
Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
The Kentucky helmet law has guidelines and restrictions to enforce helmet laws per age , experience and occasion per vehicle ridden
Under 21, got to wear a helmet, no exceptions.
Ghost Rider

Paintsville, KY

#238 Sep 24, 2013
Bottom line is this.
They did not indite her on Driving under the influence.

She was indited on 2nd degree manslaughter only.
Not DUI.

She was not found to be DUI by blood work.

The manslaughter case wont stick because,
1) Cj was going way, way too fast.
2) Cj's recklessness in driving.
3) Cj had no helmet, violating the law.
4) Cj did not care enough about Cj to wear protective gear.

5)Myra was not DUI
6) Myra was turning into a driveway.
7)Cj swerved to the white line towards Myra based on the skidmark.
8)Had Cj been driving the speed limit and wearing a helmet the accident would not have happened, or it would have been survivable.

Cj's actions took Cj down that road, had he not been flying its likely he never would have gotten near Myra.

Cj bought a bike that was too powerful and too fast for someone of his age and experience. I am not totally sure if it was a ninja or Honda but it was a 600 or 650.
That means this bike has a much power as some small cars and is 1/4 of the weight.

This coupled with a young kid with a big ego and a "I am invincible" attitude is what caused his death.
Everyone done it at that age too.

Some of these bikes are too powerful for a young rider and should have some limited placed on them.

Cj didn't even care enough about his own self to wear any sort of protective gear.

When you drive any thing that fast on small back roads you are rolling the dice.

Instead of Myra it could have been a deer, or a small child on a bicycle, or he could have killed someone else.

There is a reason we have laws for safety gear and speed limits.

Cj rolled the dice, played with his life and lost.
agree

Louisa, KY

#239 Sep 24, 2013
One Mans Opinon wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand where you're coming from, but I also seen adults on bikes and ATV's. What you're asking for is to have the law circumvented to suit this occasion. That simply isn't right, and it shouldn't apply. Tell me why they shouldn't wear helmet's other than they simply didn't want to. I have seen other posts referring to these people as "Rednecks", and this is one of the reasons why. They think they are above the laws of the land. Parade conditions, or not, they traveled on state highways. Chances are if I waited until 2 o'clock in the morning I too would be able to make that same drive without even seeing a vehicle, but that doesn't make it right. The law says wear a helmet, and I seriously doubt the law is to be circumvented just for just for this occasion. I am glad your son learned from this terrible tragedy, and I hope other young people learn from it as well, but the law is the law.
All was escorted by law!The Funeral was for him!His family and friends who knew him well knew he loved all the things in the funeral!He loved to hunt,ride four wheelers,spend time with his family and friends and most recently he enjoyed riding his motorcycle that he loved!Nobody got out of hand and was very careful on the day of the funeral!It was his farewell and those who loved him just wanted to make it the best they could!Let it be!Just let his family and friends grieve in peace and let him rest!He was a great boy,never bothered anyone,never said an ill word toward anyone!On the day of the funeral nobody was hurt or did anyone bother anyone while going from the church to the gravesite?
rude

Louisa, KY

#240 Sep 24, 2013
Ghost Rider wrote:
Bottom line is this.
They did not indite her on Driving under the influence.
She was indited on 2nd degree manslaughter only.
Not DUI.
She was not found to be DUI by blood work.
The manslaughter case wont stick because,
1) Cj was going way, way too fast.
2) Cj's recklessness in driving.
3) Cj had no helmet, violating the law.
4) Cj did not care enough about Cj to wear protective gear.
5)Myra was not DUI
6) Myra was turning into a driveway.
7)Cj swerved to the white line towards Myra based on the skidmark.
8)Had Cj been driving the speed limit and wearing a helmet the accident would not have happened, or it would have been survivable.
Cj's actions took Cj down that road, had he not been flying its likely he never would have gotten near Myra.
Cj bought a bike that was too powerful and too fast for someone of his age and experience. I am not totally sure if it was a ninja or Honda but it was a 600 or 650.
That means this bike has a much power as some small cars and is 1/4 of the weight.
This coupled with a young kid with a big ego and a "I am invincible" attitude is what caused his death.
Everyone done it at that age too.
Some of these bikes are too powerful for a young rider and should have some limited placed on them.
Cj didn't even care enough about his own self to wear any sort of protective gear.
When you drive any thing that fast on small back roads you are rolling the dice.
Instead of Myra it could have been a deer, or a small child on a bicycle, or he could have killed someone else.
There is a reason we have laws for safety gear and speed limits.
Cj rolled the dice, played with his life and lost.
Why do people have to be so rude and exspecially when it has to do with something like this!I'm sure as a kid u done crazy things in your life!Don't know where u got your facts from about Myra!C.j. loved life and if u knew him well enough then you'd have know that about him and wouldn't been on here saying bad things about him!It seems all some wanna do is get on here and bash an innocent young man that lost his life due to the wrong of a drunk!Be nice and let him rest in peace and his family and friends whom loved him!
rude

Louisa, KY

#241 Sep 24, 2013
Youre an idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm glad that you can see which way her wheel was turned from a broken tie rod cause the impact of his bike hitting the car at over 100 MPH knocked the wheel off the car.
Some people are just down right rude!Not an idiot!Also not heartless!
open season

Pomona, CA

#242 Sep 24, 2013
If you can get away with murder because the kid might have died anyway with risky behavior, then it would be okay to run down fat ass people in a parking lot. They were going to die anyway from heart attacks, right? You dumb hicks need to watch more CSI. The victim doesn't share the blame, if the accused hadn't participated in criminal behavior the crime wouldn't have occurred. To suggest anything else must mean you can predict the future. You should use that gift for the powerball numbers then so your government dependent asses get off the checks and stamps.
Ghost Rider

Paintsville, KY

#243 Sep 24, 2013
open season wrote:
If you can get away with murder because the kid might have died anyway with risky behavior, then it would be okay to run down fat ass people in a parking lot.
This is not even in the same league.

To top that off, its not murder. Please stop trying to act superior when you clearly lack the ability.

Please, go look up the meaning of murder and the legal terms. She can not be tried on murder and did not commit murder.

Its not premeditated, then its not murder.
That is why she is charged only with 2nd degree manslaughter
open season wrote:
The victim doesn't share the blame, if the accused hadn't participated in criminal behavior the crime wouldn't have occurred.
So, Cj wasn't driving recklessly? He wasn't grossly speeding? Ignoring helmet laws for his own safety?

Get with it. Cj was way over the speed limit (illegal) not wearing a helmet too (illegal).

Cj put his self in a position that got him killed. He was going way too fast to react to anything and was not wearing any safety gear.

Don't be shocked when the charges against her are dropped based on the knowledge we have at hand.

Cj was speeding.
Cj was not wearing a helmet.
Wymtv Reported Myra was clean.
Myra was not charged with DUI, only 2nd degree manslaughter.
open season

Pomona, CA

#244 Sep 24, 2013
Yes, a helmet completely protects a body against a speeding car weighing a couple tons. Your straw man argument is ignorant. Even people who engage in risky behavior have the right not to be killed by someone else's intentional or unintentional negligence. I understand in your part of the world few people take responsibility for anything, but that's how the rest of it operates. If more of your kind owned up to their bad decisions, you wouldn't have the poverty and sense of entitlement issue you have.

However, it's much easier to blame someone else. Blame the kid for not wearing a helmet when I ran over him. Blame the food for the obesity epidemic. Blame the gun for killing. What would have or could have happened is speculation used to make someone feel better about their bad decision.
open season

Pomona, CA

#245 Sep 24, 2013
Also genius, since you are pointing out laws....there is a law against driving on the wrong side of the road. Who crossed the center line?

By the way, unless you are an idiot DA, you always charge the maximum. In this case manslaughter not DUI, would you expect someone to be charged with PI if they shot and killed someone while drunk. That doesn't negate facts or imply innocence.

You should wear a helmet too, protect those three brain cells.
Ghost Rider

Paintsville, KY

#246 Sep 24, 2013
open season wrote:
Yes, a helmet completely protects a body against a speeding car weighing a couple tons.
He ran into her, had he not been speeding he would not have.
Pretty simple.
open season wrote:
Even people who engage in risky behavior have the right not to be killed by someone else's intentional or unintentional negligence.
She was turning into a driveway, how is that negligence?
open season wrote:
I understand in your part of the world few people take responsibility for anything, but that's how the rest of it operates.
I understand in your part of the world you like to generalize people who you have never met with blanket statements.
open season wrote:
However, it's much easier to blame someone else. Blame the kid for not wearing a helmet when I ran over him. Blame the food for the obesity epidemic. Blame the gun for killing.
1) He wasn't run over.
2) He was speeding, going faster than his ability to keep his bike under control.
3)He hit her, as she turned into a driveway.

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