healthcare law goes into effect today

healthcare law goes into effect today

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#1 Oct 2, 2012
A part of the new healthcare law goes into effect today. As of today hospitals and doctors will be fined for re-admitting a patient within 30 days!!! Thank you Mr. Obama!! If you do not send the 450 million dollars to the Muslims and apply it to healthcare we would be much better off.
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Inez, KY

#3 Oct 3, 2012
kristijames wrote:
A part of the new healthcare law goes into effect today. As of today hospitals and doctors will be fined for re-admitting a patient within 30 days!!! Thank you Mr. Obama!! If you do not send the 450 million dollars to the Muslims and apply it to healthcare we would be much better off.
That is not correct. If a Dr. readmits a patient within 30 days with the same complaint then the patient and or the insurance companies will not have to pay for that hospital stay. Makes sense to me. The Dr. and hospitals should of done the job right the first time around. doesn't sound to bad when you get all the facts and not just the biased opinions you see written here.
Honey Bucket

Duvall, WA

#4 Oct 3, 2012
kristijames wrote:
A part of the new healthcare law goes into effect today. As of today hospitals and doctors will be fined for re-admitting a patient within 30 days!!! Thank you Mr. Obama!! If you do not send the 450 million dollars to the Muslims and apply it to healthcare we would be much better off.
You aren't very bright, are you?
BREAKING NEWS

Richmond, KY

#5 Oct 3, 2012
kristijames wrote:
A part of the new healthcare law goes into effect today. As of today hospitals and doctors will be fined for re-admitting a patient within 30 days!!! Thank you Mr. Obama!! If you do not send the 450 million dollars to the Muslims and apply it to healthcare we would be much better off.
This just in, you're an idiot!!!!
Voter

Sitka, KY

#6 Oct 3, 2012
BREAKING NEWS wrote:
<quoted text>This just in, you're an idiot!!!!
I guess you havent watched.All the news channels.It is true.If the same patient is readmitted again within one month.The hospital will be fined 125,000.00.It is the new Obama care law.Also there is large cuts.In hospital and doctor care.Plus the one that old people really need.Hospice care is cut alot.So yes you can blame Obama.And you idot democrats will still support him!!!!!!
misb5

Stanton, KY

#7 Oct 3, 2012
Yes lets make everything political life death sickness . Democrats , republican .

Since: Aug 11

Hagerhill, KY

#8 Oct 3, 2012
Voter wrote:
<quoted text>I guess you havent watched.All the news channels.It is true.If the same patient is readmitted again within one month.The hospital will be fined 125,000.00.It is the new Obama care law.Also there is large cuts.In hospital and doctor care.Plus the one that old people really need.Hospice care is cut alot.So yes you can blame Obama.And you idot democrats will still support him!!!!!!
RomneyCare and Obamacare are identical plans. So what you're saying is as long as it's a Republican endorsed idea it's ok but when it's a Democratic endorsed plan it isn't. The exact same plan works well for Massachusetts. Mitt says so and said so tonight,,, but it's a bad plan for America. Ooooo kkkkkkkk.
ralph

Richmond, KY

#9 Oct 3, 2012
this means people will not get proper care.or will be forced to go somewhere else. something does need to be done about health care cost, but this is not the right way to do it.

REMEMBER TTHIS WHEN YOU GO VOTE

vote the man out, we might have a chance with romney.

maybe he is on the right track, if he lowers corparate taxes,there will be more jobs, and that will mean more taxes to makeup for the cuts and help people everywhere.

it is sad times, i worry that my chidren will not have a job. and this is the toughest times i have seen and i am close to 60.

i dont know how much longer i can pay my own bills.
i am sure a lot of other people in same shape
history

Paintsville, KY

#10 Oct 4, 2012
ralph wrote:
this means people will not get proper care.or will be forced to go somewhere else. something does need to be done about health care cost, but this is not the right way to do it.
REMEMBER TTHIS WHEN YOU GO VOTE
vote the man out, we might have a chance with romney.
maybe he is on the right track, if he lowers corparate taxes,there will be more jobs, and that will mean more taxes to makeup for the cuts and help people everywhere.
it is sad times, i worry that my chidren will not have a job. and this is the toughest times i have seen and i am close to 60.
i dont know how much longer i can pay my own bills.
i am sure a lot of other people in same shape
My grandmother who recently passed at age 96 said we didnt know hard times like America did in the 30s and early 40s. NO JOBS and people had to work for the government WPA (works program) to survive. Sure that sound socialist doesnt it? Well it worked and people got on their feet building schools, roads, and bridges. Then men were trained and businesses opened up and jobs were created. She said we were spoiled and could not survive without foodstamps and freebies.(government by the way).. So stop yelling socialism and lets start building schools, roads and bridges for the govenment for little while and hopefully in time our county will get over all this wasted money on WARS we didnt need to be in.

Since: Aug 11

Hagerhill, KY

#11 Oct 4, 2012
ralph wrote:
this means people will not get proper care.or will be forced to go somewhere else. something does need to be done about health care cost, but this is not the right way to do it.
With this I agree, Imho, it isn't the proper way to do it. The alternative however left hundreds of thousands with nothing. With what has been drummed into our minds since birth was to shun anything other than capitalism. Capitalism is what helped cause the stock market crash of the Depression era and what brought us to the point we're at now. History has told this country twice now, pure Capitalism doesn't work anymore than pure communism or socialism. Dem's sway towards socialism while repubs sway towards capitalism. Imho, a regulated mixture of socialism and capitalism would work. Mitt and Obama both agreed last night on regulation. Imho, if we had a blend of socialism and capitalism that was regulated to assist those down on their luck to be able to move towards capitalism and become self sufficient, such a system would work. For health care, imho, the system needs to be more socialized or at least better regulated. Pretty much everything in this country is geared to be more capitalized which only benefits a few instead of the majority.

Imho, if a person has the capacity to at least think clearly, they could serve a useful purpose regardless of whether or not they are hale and hearty, a paraplegic or 97 years of age. If we had something socialized to assist a person to learn of be trained to serve in a capacity to be a benefit to society, they no longer are a burden to society. What we currently have is training to become something menial, which is fine if the menial job is what someone wants. Many of us however shoot for something more than saying welcome to walmart or would you like fries with that.
ralph wrote:
REMEMBER TTHIS WHEN YOU GO VOTE
vote the man out, we might have a chance with romney.
maybe he is on the right track, if he lowers corparate taxes,there will be more jobs, and that will mean more taxes to makeup for the cuts and help people everywhere.
it is sad times, i worry that my chidren will not have a job. and this is the toughest times i have seen and i am close to 60.
i dont know how much longer i can pay my own bills.
i am sure a lot of other people in same shape
I'm 57 and I've had harder times. A LOT harder so age and hard times is moot really. I still can't vote for Romney even though imho he did exceedingly well in last nights debate. The reason is, even though he debated exceedingly well, he only reworded what he has been saying all along. He's very vague on his plans and when he is clear, he's saying the same thing Obama says. He and Obama both clearly said they both agree 100% on what is important to us. The debt, taxes, health care, education, medicaid, SSI and jobs. They both agreed on what needs to be done on all of them. Obama has a clear concise plan, Romney is very vague. His answers were all, we could maybe look at this, we could maybe look at that. In short, he has ideas but he has never followed up on them to see if they are feasible.
misb5

Stanton, KY

#12 Oct 4, 2012
ralph wrote:
this means people will not get proper care.or will be forced to go somewhere else. something does need to be done about health care cost, but this is not the right way to do it.
REMEMBER TTHIS WHEN YOU GO VOTE
vote the man out, we might have a chance with romney.
maybe he is on the right track, if he lowers corparate taxes,there will be more jobs, and that will mean more taxes to makeup for the cuts and help people everywhere.
it is sad times, i worry that my chidren will not have a job. and this is the toughest times i have seen and i am close to 60.
i dont know how much longer i can pay my own bills.
i am sure a lot of other people in same shape
Ralph I agree it's 4 years later and I'm not any better off . As far as insurance Obama care will make our insurance worthless and more expensive . Coal will never prosper again with a green dem. president . If they want to make it all green turning his back on the coal fields is not the answer . It just puts people on food stamps and welfare . I agree ROMNEY IS PROBABLY NOT THE ANSWER . But you have little to work with with the choices we have And a republican is probably going to be our salvation .I did not votein the last election , I could not tolerate that crazey woman on the republican ticket . There was no choice at all last time bad or worse .

Since: Aug 11

Hagerhill, KY

#13 Oct 5, 2012
misb5 wrote:
<quoted text>Ralph I agree it's 4 years later and I'm not any better off . As far as insurance Obama care will make our insurance worthless and more expensive . Coal will never prosper again with a green dem. president . If they want to make it all green turning his back on the coal fields is not the answer . It just puts people on food stamps and welfare . I agree ROMNEY IS PROBABLY NOT THE ANSWER . But you have little to work with with the choices we have And a republican is probably going to be our salvation .I did not votein the last election , I could not tolerate that crazey woman on the republican ticket . There was no choice at all last time bad or worse .
Actually there is a bill in Congress now supported by both the Dems and Reps trying to slack off on coal. If I'm not mistaken it's an attempt to get the EPA to back off a bit for the time being. Contrary to the popular belief Coal is all Obama's fault, natural gas is what is coals biggest enemy at the moment. With the advent of fracking, natural gas is cheaper to buy, cheaper to burn and doesn't require a filtration system unlike coal.
misb5

Stanton, KY

#14 Oct 5, 2012
No you are worng gas is not the problem . Obama is a green dem. and that is the problem every since I realized this I have pretty much voted rep. Obama pulled coal permits that had already been issued and the miners were already working . I am sorry but I know both my husband has worked both. Our friends are mostly miners . And he works the gas fields now .

Since: Aug 11

Hagerhill, KY

#15 Oct 5, 2012
misb5 wrote:
No you are worng gas is not the problem . Obama is a green dem. and that is the problem every since I realized this I have pretty much voted rep. Obama pulled coal permits that had already been issued and the miners were already working . I am sorry but I know both my husband has worked both. Our friends are mostly miners . And he works the gas fields now .
Au contraire! Obama didn't pull any mining permits,,,,,, ever. The Division of Mine Permits, along with the Division of Abandoned Mine Lands and the Division of Mine Reclamation and Enforcement, administers the surface coal mining regulatory program in Kentucky. The Department for Natural Resources are responsible for distributing or refusing permits for both underground and surface mining,,,, not Obama. Mining permits fall under state law, not Federal. Sorry for your husbands job loss,,,, but the blame fell on the wrong person/s.

From Forbes,
5/05/2012 @ 10:22AM

The shale gas revolution is doing a lot more than just making renewables seem more expensive: it’s actually closing coal plants as well. That is, it is significantly reducing CO2 emissions.

With natural gas prices undercutting the cost of coal, the AES Cayuga power plant in Lansing has not produced electricity since early March.

This year, natural gas prices have dropped to lows unseen since 2002, and coal power plants around the state and country haven’t been able to sell their power.

“Right now, with prices where they are, we’re not economically viable,” AES Cayuga Plant Manager Jerry Goodenough said.

The price of natural gas would need to nearly double for the plant to regain economic viability, according to Goodenough.

“If gas is trading at $1.90 or $2 per million BTU, and coal is trading at $4 per million BTU, a coal plant would need to get enough from its energy bid to recover for a $4 price, and gas is only $2,” he said."

Obama didn't invent fracking. He didn't fund anyone fracking and he didn't set the natural gas prices so how is he responsible?
misb5

Stanton, KY

#16 Oct 6, 2012
He had the permits pull and my husband works for a gas company the market is flooded is why natural gas prices are so low . Are you so blind that you can't see when a green dem. is the WHite House there is no coal moving and with out a republica in the white house our ecomomy will never get better , that is not to say Romney is not green I don't know I just think things have to get better .

Since: Aug 11

Hagerhill, KY

#17 Oct 6, 2012
misb5 wrote:
He had the permits pull and my husband works for a gas company the market is flooded is why natural gas prices are so low . Are you so blind that you can't see when a green dem. is the WHite House there is no coal moving and with out a republica in the white house our ecomomy will never get better , that is not to say Romney is not green I don't know I just think things have to get better .
Yes indeed. It was all a conspiracy to get elected just so he could wage war on coal. Please. I showed you who was responsible for mining permits. The clean air act was instituted in 1970 and all states had requirements in place by 1975 I dunno if Obama was even into politics in 1970.

Instead of blaming someone that had squat to do with the coal predicament, why not blame the state and township for not doing their jobs? It's their jobs to attract business to the state and local environments, not Obama's. If the state and local government had done their jobs instead of relying on coal jobs for eternity perhaps there wouldn't be as many unemployed coal workers.

I've heard the same tired old "the president is an evil demon with an evil agenda" conspiracy crap for the last 48 elections and none of it has come to light yet,,,, except for Nixon of course.

As for the green Dem and Republican economy hogwash, we're STILL living under the "trickle down" theory which was a Republican idea. The only thing that has trickled down to me was the chit. How about you? Our last Republican Pres left office with

The economic policy of the George W. Bush administration was a combination of tax cuts, expenditures for fighting two wars, and a free-market ideology intended to de-emphasize the role of government in the private sector. He advocated the ownership society, premised on the concepts of individual accountability, less government, and the owning of property.

During his first term (2001–2005), he sought and obtained Congressional approval for tax cuts: the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001, the Job Creation and Worker Assistance Act of 2002 and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003. These acts decreased all tax rates, reduced the capital gains tax, increased the child tax credit and eliminated the so-called "marriage penalty", and were set to expire in 2011.

The last two years of his presidency were characterized by the worsening subprime mortgage crisis, which resulted in government intervention to bail out damaged financial institutions and a weakening economy.

The U.S. national debt grew significantly from 2001 to 2008, both in dollar terms and relative to the size of the economy (GDP), due to a combination of tax cuts and wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Budgeted spending under President Bush averaged 19.9% of GDP, similar to his predecessor President Bill Clinton, although tax receipts were lower at 17.9% versus 19.1%.

During the George W. Bush administration, the federal government spending was increased from $1789 billion to $2983 billion (70%) but the revenues were only increased from $2025 billion to $2524 billion (25%). Individual income tax revenues were increased by 14%, corporate tax revenues by 50%, customs and duties by 40%. Discretionary defense spending was increased by 107%, discretionary domestic spending by 62%, Medicare spending by 131%, social security by 51%, and income security spending by 130%. Cyclically adjusted, revenues rose by 35% and spending by 65%.

Also proportionally Bush increased government spending more than any predecessor since LBJ.

I'm not the blind one nor am I stupid.

Since: Aug 11

Hagerhill, KY

#18 Oct 6, 2012
Romney CANNOT do what he says he will. For a President Romney to succeed in his pledges would require a significant revision to the Clean Air Act and other landmark environmental laws enacted over the past 40 years. It would also mean overcoming longstanding political opposition to oil drilling off the Florida coastline and in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. His administration would have to undergo a time-consuming process of withdrawing current and pending federal rules and resubmitting them through the complex regulatory system. This does not all spring from the frenzied imagination of Obama’s E.P.A. It all comes down from statutes. 40 years of them!

The Obama administration’s efforts to address climate change arise from a finding that carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases endanger human health and the environment, based on the landmark 2007 Supreme Court decision Massachusetts v. E.P.A., brought by a dozen states, including Massachusetts when Mr. Romney was governor.

A federal appeals court panel recently upheld the rules adopted by the E.P.A. as a result of that ruling, saying that the agency’s interpretation of the law and the Supreme Court decision were “unambiguously correct.”

It's NOT Obama and Romney is full of chit.
misb5

Stanton, KY

#19 Oct 6, 2012
You may think Romney is full of it but I know Obama is I know a lot of people that voted for him last time on the thought that he was going to do something about gas prices , because he said he would . Then when he was elected when gas started up and the press said what are you going to do he said nothing . I personaly as I have said before don't thing Romney is the answer , But he is better than we have . They are both liers and two faced but something has to be better than nothing . I believe the best choice is dead . Regan was one of the best . Not that I have never voted dem. I have when Bill ran for office I voted for him the biggest mistake I ever made . He was a mans man but not much more every one though it was camelot again it was not . I knew one old man back in the 70's that is dead now that told me if a rep.is in office bread will be a dollar a loaf and be easy to get if a dem.is in office bread will be twenty five cents but it will be the hardest twenty five cents you ever came up with.I did not believe he them but after all the years he is right and nothing will change my mind I am voting ROMNEY .

Since: Aug 11

Hagerhill, KY

#20 Oct 6, 2012
??????Oy! Obama doesn't own Exxon, Shell or any other oil drilling/manufacturing operation. He has zero control over the investors that gamble the futures market. He isn't the King of Saudi Arabia, Iraq or anywhere else our oil comes from. How could he or any other President control the price of oil? Pfftt! The states have more control than he does for cripes sakes! This is a free enterprise capitalist country remember? Everyone wants him to leave business alone, until of course things start getting expensive, like gas, then it's his fault?

Can't have it both ways.

And why is it he's the one totally to blame anyway? What are all the Senators, Congressmen, Governors and State Reps doing? Are they there just to collect a pay check and smile when they're on TV? They ALL have a hand in getting things done and they ALL had a hand in getting us where we are. They are supposed to be intelligent, educated men and women who supposedly have the knowledge and skill sets necessary to put their minds together and recommend to the Pres what is best for the country. I think they call that a bill maybe? Dunno, haven't seen many the last 4 years.

Wake up and smell the coffee! The President is NOT a God, Dictator or King. He's not omnipotent! He's a man that is supposed to lead but he has to have those elected under him who are willing to be led to do what is right. At this point in time he ended up having elected under him a bunch of petty, spoiled, self righteous zealots whose only intent is to place all the power with the wealthy and insure he is only going to be a one term Pres. It's rather odd that he is the first Pres of color and also the first Pres to ever be stalemated to this extent. Cripes! Simply because he's a man of color he had to prove he was even a U.S. born citizen. Now don't EVEN try and tell me racism had nothing to do with that.
WOW

Flatgap, KY

#21 Oct 9, 2012
Well if your pissed with all this coal talk and Obama is so against coal then you better be pissed at UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY! There not excepting donations from the coal companys anymore there siding with the environmentalist. So boycott your precious CATS!!

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