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After decades of overcrowded roads, long commutes and now the increasing costs of gasoline and a slowing economy, Honolulu has a new opportunity to build a rapid transit system, supported by $900 million in ... Full Story
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willie

Farmington, MI

#1 Jun 23, 2008
"Honolulu must come to grips with the fact that something must be done and done now."

Even if that "something" is the wrong thing or will not help fix the problem? You must be an Obama supporter too, change is good...even if it is change for the worse?
willie

Farmington, MI

#4 Jun 23, 2008
Well Alan, as long as Honolulu is going accept 900 million US tax dollars for this boondoggle anyone should have an opinion.

No problem with over crowding in Novi, the last person who used to work for the US auto industry turned of the light and took down the flag as they left in search of work.

Of course a properly planed rail system might help, this one however is designed to create even MORE congestion.

Either way the people who are funding it on the local level really should have a say in it considering they will be shelling out billions t build it then more to subsidize it.
No more nonsense

Kamuela, HI

#6 Jun 23, 2008
If these petition idiots screw up the rail project this island will be screwed! build the fricken train already!
kitty

Kapolei, HI

#7 Jun 23, 2008
See Willie your truw colors come out. This has nothing to do with Obama but you have to go there. You comlain that you don't like something and make your arguement with something comletely different. What is your solution then? Oh, yuo don't have one all you can do is complain without your own solution.

“I care. Those who can, teach”

Since: Apr 08

Honolulu

#8 Jun 23, 2008
Just for the record, the $900 million in federal aid to build a railroad on O`ahu pales by comparison to the several BILLION that will be paid by us, the local taxpayers.

Come to think of it, the $900 million is from our tax dollars too.

We ARE the government -- federal, state, and local.
willie

Farmington, MI

#9 Jun 23, 2008
kitty wrote:
See Willie your truw colors come out. This has nothing to do with Obama but you have to go there. You comlain that you don't like something and make your arguement with something comletely different. What is your solution then? Oh, yuo don't have one all you can do is complain without your own solution.
I didn't say it had anything to do with Obama Kitty...for heavens sake, sorry I said something "bad" about your chosen demi god.

Do I have a solution? There are many solutions already around but the single mindedness of the mayor for his pet project will not let them out in the sunlight. It is rail or nothing.

How much will the rail system have to be subsidzed annually, do you know? Do you care?

“I care. Those who can, teach”

Since: Apr 08

Honolulu

#10 Jun 23, 2008
You must wonder where in the world, Willie is coming from if he thinks that Sen. Barack Obama would be worse than George W. Bush.

Most Americans believe that anyone is better than Bush.

But then, we're told that on the Mainland, TWO of 10 Americans still support Bush, his illegal and immoral war, and what he has done to us, our country, our freedoms and rights, and our position in the world order.

The same two of 10 probably support Osama bin Laden.
manini

Honolulu, HI

#11 Jun 23, 2008
It is true that decisions about transit should be in the hands of the city council, but they have abdicated their decision making authority on at least 2 occasions in this process so far. Clearly they don't want to make these decisions so it needs to go back to voters.
kira_girl

Honolulu, HI

#12 Jun 23, 2008
What are the pro-railers afraid of? Are they afraid that the people will decide on not building the rail? Let the people decide then we will find out if the majority wants it or not. Our elected officials were not elected solely on the rail issue and in addition, did not ask us what we think about the rail issue. The rail will not reduce traffic! It is all about jobs. Nothing wrong with that but I would rather see my tax dollars to maintain our schools, build affordable housing and fix our streets. LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE.
willie

Farmington, MI

#13 Jun 23, 2008
Keith Haugen wrote:
You must wonder where in the world, Willie is coming from if he thinks that Sen. Barack Obama would be worse than George W. Bush.
Most Americans believe that anyone is better than Bush.
But then, we're told that on the Mainland, TWO of 10 Americans still support Bush, his illegal and immoral war, and what he has done to us, our country, our freedoms and rights, and our position in the world order.
The same two of 10 probably support Osama bin Laden.
Golly thanks for letting me know how I think. I defy you to show me ONE freaking post where I said Bush was ANYTHING but and idiot..just ONE. Just becqause I happen to think Obama is a bad choice that hardly means I like, support or think Bush is any good at all.
Paul

Honolulu, HI

#14 Jun 23, 2008
Keith Haugen wrote:
You must wonder where in the world, Willie is coming from if he thinks that Sen. Barack Obama would be worse than George W. Bush.
Most Americans believe that anyone is better than Bush.
But then, we're told that on the Mainland, TWO of 10 Americans still support Bush, his illegal and immoral war, and what he has done to us, our country, our freedoms and rights, and our position in the world order.
The same two of 10 probably support Osama bin Laden.
You got it backward, the 8 that don't support President Bush support Osama bin Laden
BMILL

Aiea, HI

#15 Jun 23, 2008
I THINK YOU ARE ALL CRAZY
Moa Kaka

Honolulu, HI

#16 Jun 23, 2008
Cannot call commercial nuclear power "safe" just because the Navy's program is safe. The power plants and reactors are designed totally differently. The Navy did not base its designs on being able to make a profit (when does government ever care about how much something costs). Commercial plants must take that into consideration, and their plant design differs because of it.

It IS more appropriate to compare commercial power to Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, because those plants were commercial. Please learn more about this subject before writing letters on it.
flip

Honolulu, HI

#17 Jun 23, 2008
We no gone ride da rail. We stay in one civic 1991. Mo bettah race dat way.
djs

Honolulu, HI

#18 Jun 23, 2008
kira_girl wrote:
.... Are they afraid that the people will decide on not building the rail?..... LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE.
What we object to is the wording of the petition.

It's supporters are making all kinds of claim as to what it is and what it will do.

The wording however is totally different from the agenda being promoted.

That's a game known as smoke and mirrors. Say one thing, do something else completely different.
theboat rider

Ewa Beach, HI

#19 Jun 23, 2008
I ride theboat once a week just for the ride. It was great when the whales were in town. In Waikiki the hotels are telling the tourists about it and they are riding. That is not what theboat is for but at least some one is using it (at a cost of $50 or so to us taxpayers and since I am a taxpayer I am just using my tax money). There is a dedicated core of real users that love it. In the North West ferrys are a big part of the transportation system. They should be here. No traffic jams out on the water.
kira_girl

Honolulu, HI

#20 Jun 23, 2008
djs wrote:
<quoted text>
What we object to is the wording of the petition.
It's supporters are making all kinds of claim as to what it is and what it will do.
The wording however is totally different from the agenda being promoted.
That's a game known as smoke and mirrors. Say one thing, do something else completely different.
No different from what the pro-railers are saying - that it would reduce traffic! In any event, making the people decide is democratic. I really think if the petition goes thru, just maybe the rail project will be shut down.
Aquaback

Camarillo, CA

#21 Jun 23, 2008
My gosh, folks, are the looneylatinos still beating Ron Tam's dead horse? Why, si, si, ole, and all that stuff! The whining continues because the Star and other island rags just lap it all up! After all, with advertizers dropping by the wayside, the Fourth Estate has to be innovative to stay alive.
dudealohajoe

United States

#22 Jun 23, 2008
ain't nuttin' but all shibai...

Jus' one big shibai...
Mongo

San Antonio, TX

#23 Jun 23, 2008
Keith Haugen wrote:
Just for the record, the $900 million in federal aid to build a railroad on O`ahu pales by comparison to the several BILLION that will be paid by us, the local taxpayers.
Come to think of it, the $900 million is from our tax dollars too.
We ARE the government -- federal, state, and local.
Yeah, and our federal tax dollars will be spend to create jobs and solve transportation problems in OTHER cities if we fumble this opportunity.

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