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Maybe Hawaii needs capital punishment Kirk Lankford being convicted of Masumi Watanabe's murder is a great relief . Full Story

Since: Mar 08

Sacramento

#2 Apr 16, 2008
What gives the government the right to decide who lives and who dies? It is hypocritical to punish someone for killing someone, and turning around and killing them back.
bmillies

Pearl City, HI

#3 Apr 16, 2008
With all the crime especially the murders, Hawaii needs Capital punishment but it will never get approved until one of the council members family gets killed then watch how fast things happen...
Muffin Hanumanu

Honolulu, HI

#4 Apr 16, 2008
loganz wrote:
What gives the government the right to decide who lives and who dies? It is hypocritical to punish someone for killing someone, and turning around and killing them back.
It is not the government's right or decision, it is your fellow jurors, they decide who walks scot-free and who gets punished, that is their purpose, that's why they go behind closed doors and deliberate to reach a verdict.
do you even know how the justice system works?
JOF

Honolulu, HI

#5 Apr 16, 2008
Peter,

LED's are not really more efficient than typical high pressure sodium lamps. And voltage has nothing (well, nearly nothing) to do with power consumption. The most efficient white LED I'm aware of puts out around 130 lumens per watt (100 lm/W is more common). Typical high pressure sodium lights can do 140 lm/W, and the high efficiency low pressure sodium lights like those found on the Big Island can hit 180 lm/W (the drawback is that the light is yellow so color rendition is poor).

LED assemblies would cost many times the price of existing sodium lamps, for very little gain (if any) in efficiency and would not at all reduce the need for wiring.

There may be a long-term cost savings in lamp maintenance since LEDs are rated to last longer before needing replacement, but at current prices even that payback is debatable. It'd be better to wait 5 years for other towns to make large scale deployments, and for prices to come down for LED products before undertaking a wholesale replacement.

Note that streetlights and traffic lights are completely different when evaluating LED replacements, traffic lights are not nearly as bright as street lights, so the cost of LED modules is quickly paid back by reduced maintenance costs. Efficiency of the LED modules over the typical incandescent lighting is of secondary concern.
retsamssa

Honolulu, HI

#6 Apr 16, 2008
Except for the automatic parole review after 20 years, life in prison without parole is effectively a death sentence, it's just a matter of not knowing how and when the person will die.

Personally, I think being forced to sit in a room for 60+ years knowing you can never leave is a harsher punishment than being put to sleep.
Alan

Honolulu, HI

#7 Apr 16, 2008
retsamssa wrote:
Except for the automatic parole review after 20 years, life in prison without parole is effectively a death sentence, it's just a matter of not knowing how and when the person will die.
Personally, I think being forced to sit in a room for 60+ years knowing you can never leave is a harsher punishment than being put to sleep.
This is true death penalty is sometimes gettin off easy. I agree being locked forever with no hope of ever getting out is a armore effective detterentto bad our taxdollars have to pay for it bumer
Concerned citizen

Pearl City, HI

#8 Apr 17, 2008
Speaking of LED lamps, won't copper thieves love to steal those expensive lamps to resell?
Del

AOL

#9 Apr 17, 2008
JOF wrote:
Peter,
The most efficient white LED I'm aware of puts out around 130 lumens per watt (100 lm/W is more common).
Have you seen these?

http://www.cens.com/cens/html/en/news/news_in...

http://www.everlight.com/index.php
love waianae

Aiea, HI

#10 Apr 17, 2008
Concerned citizen wrote:
Speaking of LED lamps, won't copper thieves love to steal those expensive lamps to resell?
What "copper thieves?" Those people are just poor unfortunates that are addicted to ice. The are now called "patients", in liberal circles. Say you're sorry.
runedover

Waipahu, HI

#11 Apr 17, 2008
Gary T. is right, hawaii will never be the same with out Aloha airlines. Anybody not from hawaii will surely run any company into the ground,they dont give a rip ! Not our leaders though, they;ve already shown all of them dont care if we make it or not .
Kimo of Baltimore

Washington, DC

#12 Apr 17, 2008
This continues the discussion of the LED lights:
Two things to do to slow down or stop theft of wires at roadside lamps. 1. Add a sealing compound (NEC 501.15) to the wires at the entry to the conduits. Make it time consuming to remove this sealant. 2. Use and end of line resistor (Heavily guarded) to monitor the wire circuit, like a Fire Alarm wire. When the line circuit is broken day or night the alarm will ring and HPD's finest can catch the buggas at that circuit location.
JOF

Kilauea, HI

#13 Apr 17, 2008
Del wrote:
I haven't seen those, but they are advertising from 33 to 75 lumens/watt and 90 lumens/watt respectively. Both are well under the efficiency of the existing high pressure sodium lights.

The 130 lm/W LED I was referring to is here:

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticl...

but I don't know if it's affordable, or available in quantiy yet.
Gene Cordero

AOL

#14 Apr 19, 2008
"Maybe Hawaii needs Capitol Punishment" YES, Yes, Yes, We do
for proven murder cases but
also for Sex crimes against children. These criminals only serve prison time suported by us poor taxpayers. And then released again to do the same.
Enough is enough!
but

AOL

#15 Apr 20, 2008
I hate led lights
jake

Princeville, HI

#16 Apr 20, 2008
JUST LEAVE THE WIRES BARE SO WHEN THEY GRAB EM THEY GET A SHOCK THEY WONT FORGET

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