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willie
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"Sharon Pomroy"
What would be the point? Even if by some miracle statehood was abolished and Hawaii was once more independant the new "rulers" would probably sell it all off just like the old rulers did.
Tilting at windmills is fun but does not really accomplish anything.
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Alan Cummings
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Sharon,
It's a wonderful dream, but that's all that it is. I support a nation also, but considering how Hawaii became part of the U.S. back in the 1890's, how can any reasonable person think that the United States will just pull out and tell Hawaii it was just a mistake and the they can have nation status again.
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Alan Cummings
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willie wrote: "Sharon Pomroy"
What would be the point? Even if by some miracle statehood was abolished and Hawaii was once more independant the new "rulers" would probably sell it all off just like the old rulers did.
Tilting at windmills is fun but does not really accomplish anything. Where did you come up with the ridiculous idea that Hawaii's rulers "sold off" the islands. I guess you don't remember anything about the military coming in and taking the queen at gunpoint. Try reading up on history occasionally.
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Corrected Statement
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The Route "C", "E" and "40" buses are the basically exact same route that is proposed for the 50 Gazillion dollar cho cho train. and it only cost a fraction of a fraction of the amount of the proposed system.
if you are not currently riding the bus. you are NOT going to ride the train.
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willie
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Alan Cummings wrote: <quoted text>
Where did you come up with the ridiculous idea that Hawaii's rulers "sold off" the islands. I guess you don't remember anything about the military coming in and taking the queen at gunpoint. Try reading up on history occasionally. Oh yeah thats right. Before the queen was at gunpoint ALL the land was firmly in the hands of the monarchy not one single dab was held by anyone else. How about YOU try reading up on history.
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Stan
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Just as soon as the superferry is running to Kauai again, you can all load up the car or truck and... for a lot cheeper than flying.... come to Oahu and support the protesters.
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steve
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Hawaii Nation? Great idea. Let's do it!!! But first, shouldn't we give some thought to where the money is going to come from after the feds cut off all fnding for our new 'nation?' No welfare, no public housing, no food stamps, no Medicare? No trough feeders in Congress? No federal subsidies? No choo-choo train for Mufi?'Oh, my,'as Chicken Little exclaimed,'The Sky is Falling! The Sky is Falling!'
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little grasshoppa
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Comment by Dale Hood on 3 day Mail delivery is laughable. USPS is a government entity, plus they need to deliver all our outstanding bills daily.
What I would suggest is once a week pickup on trash. This would encourage people to recycle and think about what they throw away, reducing the amounts in our already growing landfills....
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MML
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Stop blaming go! you idiot! By we flying on Hwn and not go! will only raise ticket prices.
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Thom1s
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Supporting "the belief in the rights of the nation of Hawaii" is futile make believe. Those "rights" were doomed by whoever selected Liliuokalani and then failed to prepare her for the difficult task of Monarchy. The Monarch has only one job, but it is a doozy: preserve the kingdom. Failing to master the politics of her own court and thus allowing precious time to slip by while the inevitable intrigues (common to every court) were a'building, she found herself in a critical moment boxed in with few options, all of them bad. She let the opportunity to quash intrigue pass her by and the price she and her subjects paid was the loss of kingdom. That kingdom exists now only in the fevered imagination who think they can wish away the incompetence of the last monarch by simply pushing "rewind" on their magic time machine. Ain't gonna happen.
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oldfart
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Uncle Paul, I hope you are reading this.
We are coming to Kauai as soon as the SF goes there. We will load up the truck and bring all the omiyage from the family to you, spend the weekend at the beach and then take back all the omiyage from you to the family in Honolulu.
Looking forward to talking story soon.
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Papakolea LOST
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At best da Hawaiian's up da hill, have proved dey cannot care fo da daily household sink of dishes to wash, no can pay electric bill - but get plenty beer, strugle feeding da Ohana, still make plenty' kieki, depend on welfare like it's for Christmas & foodstamps (Not nuf' already') Still make HuHu ova' everyting "they are being kept from thier own independace while der Hale sits on Homestead lands."
Nut'ing personal but (Sheeesh!!!), I tink you bettah' off collecting the checks, caus' you neva' going make tings work when you can't make your own household's work as is.
"If aint brook, no try fix em LoLo'z !!!
Gone are da day's of a King and Queen, just be proud you have the palace habachi where ever you like.
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